Where the idea began

1VN - One Visual Novel - #001


Never 7: The End of Infinity

A group of students go to an island in order to attend a mysterious (and mandatory) "Seminar Camp". At first, everything is normal, but Makoto wonders about what is the purpose behind the Camp. What he doesn't know, is that things will soon get far from ordinary, with one strange event happening after another.


  • This is the first entry in the 1VN puzzle series.
  • The puzzle was specifically designed to raise awareness and encourage the playthrough of a Visual Novel.
  • Detailed instructions are inside the puzzle page
  • More prizes will be added, however giveaways will end on October 17, one month from the starting date of the giveaway!
  • It is a little annoying to make this game work due to it being old. I can assist you if you add me on Steam.
  • If you are actually playing the VN, you can get my assistance via Steam chat.
  • This game is amazing, it's on my list of 100 things you should do before you die

  • Did you vote "No" at the poll below? News for you: Good job not being interested in one of the best plots ever written!

1VN - #001 - PUZZLE LINK

Enjoy.

8 years ago*

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Do you plan on playing Never 7: The End of Infinity?

View Results
Yes, I am very interested in the game.
No, I am not very interested in the game.
I am already playing it.
I already have finished it completely!

Visual Novels = :)
Puzzles = :(

8 years ago
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Trust me. Play the visual novel and you shall have no problems with the puzzle. It will be a great experience.

8 years ago
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Backlog is pretty bad, and a visual novel probably wont make it to the top of that list. I got a whole month so maybe I'll get around to it.

8 years ago
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Have a look at the thread that motivated the creation of this thread, some did play it within a week, but this time I decided to give a month to be fair with people who prefer to take it slow.

8 years ago
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Don't you think you over did it with question 3? too many characters involved.. 1 error in spacing, length, choice or word, will give a false answer...

8 years ago
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Reserved. To those voting NO at the above poll, I suggest you at least TRY it out!

8 years ago
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that poll doesn't lie xD

sorry :3

8 years ago
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I knew what the result of the poll would be. If you defy the poll, you will be rewarded. Not by the giveaway, but by the visual novel!

8 years ago
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Any hints about what the potential prize might be?

8 years ago
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You own the current prize, but there will be others. But honestly, you shouldn't do this just for the prize.

8 years ago
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Oh, I plan on playing through the entire game at some point. My life is just somewhat hectic right now, and I was wondering if this would be the incentive I needed to make it a priority over the next couple of weekends. I am well aware that the actual reward is in the experience. I just don't know if I will be able to make time for it right away. But, a month is a long time, so maybe I'll be able to find some free days here and there.

8 years ago
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Can I ask how many separate incidents there are for Q3? Even playing through it might be easy to miss one, so a number to shoot for would give me peace of mind.

8 years ago
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Eight incidents in total. Shouldn't be too hard to do this one if you play through all routes, and pay attention, as is the case with all other questions. The complexity is there to make it impractical to solve the puzzle via googling/guessing which would essentially be cheating the puzzle.

8 years ago
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Yeah, makes sense! I can think of seven off the top of my head anyway, I think.

8 years ago
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See! It's an undeniable fact!
Now spread the word!

8 years ago
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Visual novel and puzzle don't go together well.. even though i like visual novel...

I looked at the question and prepare to try it but.. i am afraid even if i find the answer.. i will spend too long to get the correct format... time better spend to play a game i guess...

8 years ago
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Damn it.. i cannot resist visual novel and puzzle.. gonna try it.. but this is so hard!

8 years ago
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It is not hard. Unless you are not playing the VN. Like I stated above, the reason the questions were designed that way is to prevent that anyone solves this puzzle without actually playing it.

8 years ago
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Bump for not solving
too much puzzles now u.u

8 years ago
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Play the VN, and you will solve it. It is not hard. You'll recognize the audio parts.

8 years ago
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For those of you want to try the puzzle.
http://erogedownload.com/downloads/never-7/

8 years ago
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I'm curious, what symbol/letters did you use at the beginning and the end of the title? I see squares with small numbers, and it kinda annoys me (I'd like to download that font/whatever so I can see it).

8 years ago
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It's a special unicode character, if you are seeing squares with small numbers this means your browser does not support the displaying of such characters.

8 years ago
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I'm aware, I meant that I'd like to know what is that unicode character. :P

8 years ago
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left-facing armenian eternity sign (U+058E)

8 years ago
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Q3 is just insane!! o.O!
You should make some sort of answer checker (as a one-question ITH puzzle, I mean).
Also remember that the max number of characters allowed in ITH's textboxes is 256.

8 years ago
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I am very well aware of the max length, and I am very well aware of the complexity. This is a countermeasure against puzzle cheating e.g. googling, and I have provided a formatting standard and example to aid you in answering that question.

Furthermore, I am also able to provide dedicated help in question formatting, if you contact me on steam and give me all the correct answers, but are failing to correctly answer the question, I can add your version of the answer to the list of correct answers.

8 years ago
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As soon as I manage to get the game working properly, I'll play it. And if I need help with question formatting I'll contact you. Thanks! :)

8 years ago
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I can help you get the game working, just add me on Steam, I will enter there when I am able to. Leave a message to me!

8 years ago
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EDITED because reasons

8 years ago*
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Even where I had gotten it from in the past, the link was broken. I really know no working links for it.
So I suggest you contact me for easymode (I got the file in question).

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EDITED because reasons

8 years ago*
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Also, the poll is missing an option: "Yes, I am kinda interested in the game." :D

8 years ago
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Nope. Either you are or you aren't. Decided which side you're on. NOW!

8 years ago
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I am, but definitely not VERY!! So, I have no choice...

View attached image.
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You have no choice. You are doomed. There is no escape. No salvation. No sanctuary. Just your inevitable fate.
 

You will surrender.

8 years ago
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It looks like you made an un-Google-solvable puzzle. xD I'm not solving it 'cause like I told you before, I'm not interested in this.

8 years ago
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Please play the VN, dude. Even though you are not interested. Before playing this VN, I was completely not interested in it, and I even hated the idea of playing a VN. Playing it changed my entire thinking, I became a huge fan of Visual Novels in general, specially quality masterpieces such as Never 7. PLAY IT!

MWAHAHAHAHA I HAVE DEFEATED YOU! FEEL MY WRATH!

8 years ago*
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I already told you I'm not interested! Leave me alone! xD

8 years ago
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This game is so good that it's simply hard to stop trying to convince someone who claims they are not interested without even trying the genre or playing any VN of quality ever in their lives.

8 years ago
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Sorry but it's just not my priority right now. Maybe one day.

8 years ago
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Make it your priority right now! This is a sign from above!

8 years ago
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Still really interested in playing it.. Ah what the hell, I have nothing to lose ^.^

8 years ago
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Bump, and let this thread be noticed once again!

8 years ago
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How did things work out?

8 years ago
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Time worked its magic.

8 years ago
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So you won't get in trouble for this thread again?

8 years ago
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I never intended to and I don't intend to. I will take extra care not to.

8 years ago
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I enjoyed Ever17. Maybe Never17 will be as fun to read as Ever17.

8 years ago
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I don't believe that. I played just a bit of Ever17, and found it so awesome that I stopped and went to Never 7 first. Ever17 is considered to be the best masterpiece these devs have done, so I highly doubt you'd enjoy N7 more than that VN.

But by all means, play it, you may find it enjoyable.

8 years ago
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Having (now) played both, I can agree with this. I enjoyed Ever 17 more, but Never 7 has a pretty unique way of presenting its content that I definitely enjoyed as well. And the writing is by the same people, so if you enjoyed reading one, I'd be surprised if you didn't enjoy reading the other.

8 years ago*
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Never heard of this VN? Where do I find it?

8 years ago
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Here you can find the game: http://erogedownload.com/downloads/never-7/
Working English patch (the one mentioned in the thread is broken): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ZBY2nieMPiYzM5UW4yY0o5dVE/view
Fix to hear sounds, music and voices (extract somewhere, then copy the contents to the game folder, do not replace files that already exist when prompted by Windows): https://mega.nz/#!8xsRkQxB!Oyv_HoluyJP3TMEW28bt9sbN42Le8DELCoENanAhvoA

8 years ago*
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Q3 fixed, if you're stuck at it, it's now working perfectly guys!

8 years ago
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Congratulations to the first solver of the puzzle! He played through the entire VN quite fast and was able to take note of all the events required to respond correctly to the questions!

8 years ago
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Shame I haven't played this VN so I can't solve it :'(
Obligatory bump :)

8 years ago
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This puzzle EXPECTS you to not have played the VN, that's why a long time was given for the GA.

8 years ago
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Bump for the rise!

8 years ago
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[H] Puzzle about underrated VN with an epic plot
[W] Users willing to try it out!

8 years ago
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I feel like I should point out something about this game for people on the fence. There's no sex and no nudity that you'd even need to censor. Fanservice is limited to a couple of girls in bikinis at the pool. This series relies on its story to keep you interested rather than being about how many Hunies you can Pop. So when you hear that the game is great, just keep in mind that it's not because they're hiding the flaws in the story with sex scenes. It's because the story is good enough to stand on its own without making something else stand on its own.

If you've ever enjoyed a story in a visual novel, you owe it to yourself to try the Infinity series. And if you've ever played Ever17, I don't know why you even need convincing.

8 years ago
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Perfectly explained.

8 years ago
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Since when sex scenes are a positive feature in Visual Novels? I can hardly enjoy such additions. I'm not taking it to extremes of hating skirt flashes, but actual sex scenes are, in my opinion, material that should be reserved for a genre of its own, and not be called VNs.

8 years ago
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Yeah, I feel like most VNs are either really short (Planetarian), force in a bunch of sexy pictures because they feel like they have to and would be better off leaving them out entirely (Fate/Stay Night), or the story is awful because it's just an excuse to get the player to the sexytimes (Tsukihime). This series and the Zero Escape games are a breath of fresh air because they deliver a long, satisfying story without feeling the need to slip in some porn.

Way back when I first tried a VN, it was Tsukihime, because it was super popular. I was pretty much turned off the genre entirely by the plot, which included committing random murders and raping a former rape victim. If a friend hadn't talked me into playing Ever17 by swearing that there was absolutely no nudity or sex, I probably never would have even looked at another VN after that. And then I would have missed out on some wonderful stories, such as this one.

8 years ago
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15 days left. Plenty of time for newcomers to experience the plot entirely so... bump!

8 years ago
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Bump for precognition: I'll solve the puzzle in a few days!!
Actually, I've completely (I think) finished the game a couple of days ago, but I still can't answer a few questions. o.O?

8 years ago
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You should be able to correctly answer about half of them relatively easily, or at least have enough of an idea about them that you can use the shortcuts to skip to the correct dialogue. For the other half, if you have answers that you think are right, maybe add 3P1C on steam and let him know what you think the answer is so he can double check it. I know my answer on 3 wasn't working, which is what prompted the "Q3 fixed, if you're stuck at it, it's now working perfectly guys!" post after he caught a typo.

If you don't at least have a guess for all the questions, you might not have finished the whole story. Check your CG gallery - if you're missing some, you haven't finished the game and should probably check a flowchart to see what you still haven't done.

8 years ago*
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I have already answered correctly half of them, the ones I'm missing are 1, 3 and 4. I have absolutely no idea on what Q4 is asking for (I mean, I have no idea on what that Word is and how many events there are); I think to have all the 8 events of Q3 (they are 8, right?) but can't get it right, and I'm also quite sure to have the answer to Q1 (but maybe I have misunderstood the question).

In fact I'm missing two CGs from Yuka, that's why I said "(I think)". I'm quite sure to know what one of them is, but I have no idea of the other one (the third of the last row). o.O? When I have some time I'll play it again and I'll add 3P1C on steam.

8 years ago
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Ah, those CGs aren't super important. One is for winning at tennis and one is for getting pretty much every affection point throughout her entire route and then choosing to go to the hot springs the third time the game asks you. You can use a flowchart to make sure you don't miss those, but if those are the only two you're missing, you're done with everything major.

Definitely send your answers for 1 and 3 to 3P1C, because it sounds like you're close on those. There are indeed eight for Question 3, as stated earlier in the thread ("Eight incidents in total.")

As for #4, if you at least know where the clip is from, you're probably close on that as well. Try a few other guesses.

8 years ago*
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Ok, I just got Q4 (I had already tried all synonyms of that word except that one :D). Tomorrow I'll contact 3P1C for the others.

8 years ago
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Time is passing by fast :D
Stay tuned for more puzzles, unfortunately due to lack of participants on this one I won't be adding further prizes :P

8 years ago
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I'll add you on steam today when I get back from university (~8 hours from now).

So bad, it turned out to be a very good game (and I'm not a fan of VNs).

8 years ago
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Well, out of the people who actually played it so far, 100% liked it. So that's something.

8 years ago
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Everyone who plays it likes it. Everyone who doesn't play it doesn't like it.
That's the rule.

8 years ago
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Can you please help me make the game work? I can't make it work with sound.

8 years ago
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If 3P1C hasn't helped already, I'll add you on steam and can help.

8 years ago
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Only now I saw the reply, :) Thanks for the help. I played a bit and I'm eager to know the mystery is, :)

8 years ago
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Just finished the game and I liked it a lot (Yuka good and bad endings), but the questions require taking lots of notes, and I just wanted to enjoy the game. So I'll pass, but thanks for the game suggestion, :)

8 years ago
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Like the title said, the puzzle reward is the puzzle itself. The giveaway is over but feel free to tell others how much you loved this VN.
Did you play the Izumi Curé route?

8 years ago
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Yeah, I agree with you. I just really wanted to know what game was it that you offered, or if I owned it.

About the game:

I used a flowchart as suggested by the GauRocks, and I thought this would be a boring story. But I was really surprised by what happened, and the story was quite interesting, with likeable characters and great music.

Ah, I think you can help me a bit. What are those passwords we get for every ending? Where do I use them? And what is a Curé route? I was thinking of seeing other endings, but i think that would require playing from the beginning, and skipping a lot. I only see one shortcut after finishing the game.

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The passwords are for the notes system that's buried in the game directory. It's pretty pointless, though. It's basically just a bunch of explanations about areas and concepts that show up in the game.

As for the other endings, you should absolutely play them. The game allows you to fast forward past dialogue you've already seen and go straight to new things. Every route diverges into a totally different story, and the real fun of the game is actually what happens in the last few routes. The ending you've seen leaves a lot of questions hanging, and as you play all the other routes, the game will resolve those questions.

The Curé route is the second to last one that you unlock as you go through the game. When you replay the game, you'll notice that things are a little different and you have new options in old scenes. Once you've completed all the other routes that block it off, you can use the flowchart to steer yourself into the Izumi Curé route, which is about 50% longer than the others and is the best part of the game.

Basically, you think you've seen the whole story, but you've actually only seen 15-20% of what the game has to offer. And the best is yet to come.

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Thanks for the very nice explanation, I'll check the other routes as suggested. One last question: when looking for an ending (using the flowchart), I just need to always pick choices that give me points with one of the characters, and the other choices don't matter, right?

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Pretty much, yeah. If you look down near the bottom where it says "Route split", there's a big set of requirements for each ending. YA leads you to Yuka, Ha 23 or greater and HA leads you to Haruka, and so on. You basically need to take a route that gives you all the required points (With one letter lower case, like Ha) and also hits the flags required (All caps, like HA). Whichever end you're looking for, it's probably a good idea to skim the flowchart looking for those all caps flags ahead of time so you know what decisions are the most important.

You also want to be really careful to avoid the event that gives YA, since that flag forces you down the Yuka route no matter what else you do.

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