So update now: my Dad bought it Here: http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B0090SET82/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?qid=1419496324&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
It says the card is 2gb, but my researches told me it is only 1gb. My Dad thought a 2gb card would be good for me, This is why he ordered that one. What do you think, do we have a Chance on getting a different card Form them if we tell them they gave us misleading information?
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The vram isn't the problem. I think you can ask Amazon for a full refund for false advertisement if it only has 1gb of vram instead of 2.
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It looks like CSL is selling this on its site and it's configurable, up to a GeForce 970 or Radeon 290X. It would probably have been better to buy directly from CSL and configure with a better GPU, but just upgrading the GPU could be good enough. Far as the options on Amazon are concerned, the CPU and RAM are the best available, so only the GPU needs changing.
It's not clear to me from CSL's site what the basic PSU wattage is (it's not specified, and the 400W one seems to cost 25 euros more, so it's probably 300-350W). I'd imagine that a GeForce 750 Ti would be the most powerful card that's still safe, as others have commented. Depending on your requirements a GTX 750 may be good enough, and it will be cheaper (down to about 100 euros). Still, it depends on your budget. Pretty much any card, even at around 50 euros, will be better than that 8350, but they still might not be good enough for decent gaming.
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Well it seems like we are not getting a replacement card from them,so we will refund the pc. Budget is 600€, and a full finished PC build like the first One, from amazon germany. I looked up a few ones, but if there is anyone who has a bit time To look through it, Zoo, that would really be awesome:) and thank you guys a lot for your help:)
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Good choice, the one you mentioned was an "office" build and office PCs don't need powerful graphics cards... (not talking about a workstation)
Since we are both German, I know there shouldn't be a problem to refund it, because you bought it online so there's a thing called "right of withdrawal" (Widerrufsrecht) make use of it. :)
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You could buy this one:
http://www.amazon.de/Gaming-Speed-4504-Core-Haswell/dp/B00FE90QGA/
Good CPU Intel i5, 8GB RAM, and decent graphic card GTX750.
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Do you honestly think that Core i5 with Linux is better for gaming than FX-6300 with Windows?
Anyway, the FX-6300 still got an honorable mention in the latest Tom's Hardware Best Gaming CPUs For The Money article.
Also, current games are moving towards high multi-threading. Dragon Age Inquisition for example doesn't like 2 core CPU's at all, and scales nicely even from 4 to 6 cores.
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Yes, I think that. FX6300 got honorable mention in Entry-Level, and i5 is in higher category. This processors aren't even comparable with each other. And he can also install Windows from previous PC.
i5 has 4 physical cores. And it has just better performance clock to clock. It is just better a lot. EOT for me.
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as other have stated, if you build the desktop yourself it would be cheaper (so better parts), I recommend to you 2 sites:
Good luck bro!
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Processor and RAM seem fine. Yeah, you would consider to replace the video card. Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 has been released a while ago; owners of GTX 780i and GTX Titan are likely to upgrade their cards with it. So expect some secod hand deals for GTX 780i and GTX Titan.
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You'll just need to save up and get a good dedicated graphics card, might also need to upgrade the Power Supply.
Lowest option would be a GTX 750 Ti, if you got more money go for R9 280-290 or better or if you have like $300+ then a GTX 970 would give you incredible performance.
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Actually I really would be more interested in the specs of your old PC. Maybe you can upgrade that one and wait for the next C-Bit to get better prices on the hardware. Besides, if your current one isn't that old, you might still be able to use parts of it. At least the harddrive and the PSU + Case will do, which can save you around 100-200€. Since you claimed your old one to be faster, the GPU might be usufull as well. Think about it... you don't buy a knew car, just because the radio is broken...
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Ok, that would at least explain why you want a complete PC.
OS should be no problem, you can get them very cheap as pupil or student, just ask at school/university or try google. Payed 34€ for Win7 prof 6 years ago. There should be similar options for a newer OS atm.
What exactly do you want to play and what do you want to use the PC for. With this Notebook, it seems you are playing some older games too, at least you seem to play games that favour singlecore over multicore cpus. Otherwise there would be no explaination why your notebook would be faster that your listed PC.
Another question would be, if you favour a system with low energy usage and balanced perfomance or a high end gaming pc or at least the starting parts for it. Do you want a PC, that will do for a few years or one that is cheap and easy to replace.
It is not always about the newest components. Using older hardware that is more balanced can get you better results if you figure out how to set it up correctly. You can even reduce the bottlenec of a cpu if you use the right GPU - simply reduce the amount of physics calculation through shifting it onto the GPU.
One of the main issue in the prebuild systems are the build-in parts. Like the Amazone one posted above. 4590 is nice but does not support instruction-set-extensions that further speed up the internal processing (FMA3, EM64T, F16C)
The mainboard is a z81 which is rather old... would only use it if I really do need a worst case spare... gtx750.... yeah.. at least get a 750TI which offers almost the performance of gigabyte gtx 660 OC at much lower energy costs.
It basicly all depends on what you wanna do / play and how you set up your system.
How old are the games you play?
What kind of games do you play?
Are you multi-clienting?
Do you want to be able to cast live streams and still play a decent fps or just normal gaming?
Do you want to render videos?
Are you working with 3D calculations or different cad programs?
Do you want to use muti-screens (2 or more)?
etc...
These would determine which parts would fit best. If an AMD is enough or if you need more specific parts I3-I7. Which GPU would do better based on mutli-screen, overall calculation and shifting, energy costs and compatibility. And to be honest... if you would be really into that stuff, this is just the top of an iceberg we are scratching on.
I am still using parts that are older than those of your notebook and still don't need to upgrade.
MY RIG
I can't play all new games, but i don't see any reason to buy a new PC for 700€ just to be able to play 4 new games. Even Evolution was working, running on medium at 45fps stable. Titanfall stable at 60fps all maxed.
Just give us some more informations and I am sure, we will find a nice rig 4 you, maybe even a prebuild one.
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Ok, I just checked the games you are playing on steam. Why exactly do you need a new PC again? Besides The Evil Within, you should be fine with any game you got there. Even I can play 90% of them at max resolution....
Looking at the games you played the most... I could even use my old sempron to play them...
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As other have stated, if you build the desktop yourself it would be cheaper (so better parts), I recommend to you 2 sites:
http://www.logicalincrements.com (here you'll see which are the best parts to get more bang for your buck)
http://pcpartpicker.com (here you can build your prototypes)
Good luck bro!
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Help people, today I got a new PC, since I told my dad like almost a year ago that my old one is just trash... but seriously, he had probably no idea what he was buying.. So here I go now:
AMD FX 8230 eight-core processor
AMD Radeon HD8350
16GB RAM
I am also not really into hardware... well lets be honest, I'm a noob, and I am totally okay with the processor, its not the best one, but its okay. The RAM is really cool imo, but what the hell is wring with that graphic card?? Its so freaking bad...:((( What can I do now, just replace it? Which one would be appropiate? And what do I have to keep in mind with my choice? Hope you can help me:) Thanks:)
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