SGv2 will be death of public GA?

SGv2: It's all about groups.

Maybe I'm ill-informed but I always put some amount of CV on my giveaways just so that I know the winner has enough knowledge of the site to receive the game, add it to their library, and mark as received.

Please don't take that away from public giveaways.

I will miss those "Why my CV no pass $30" posts or $30.01 troll/rage. :-p

I think CV should be replaced by CA(Cat Amount), the amount of cat photos you have posted in the past on the Steamgifts forums.

There were good public GAs before CV. There are good public GA's now without CV. And if anything CV is what encouraged exploiting ultra-cheap deals.

Eh, I don't personally mind having the option of cv giveaways. With the addition of blacklists, there is no credible benefit to exploiting at a significant level. Any such exploiter, like a few that most of us are well aware of, would be immediately blacklisted and not see those giveaways to begin with. I would imagine the workload on the staff evens out as well, since the number of dumb topics about cv to the staff balances out with the number of reroll requests from those that choose to get a cv rule approved by the staff. I'd rather have greater flexibility than the other way around.

bit offtopic but I assume I came a bit overboard with what I said for which I would like to apologise

As you can see, I deleted all the problematic posts I made as well

At the risk of sounding pretty selfish, I personally only started giving away non-bundles to get to the 30.01 CV publics. I started with 2 dlcs. Only after that did I find the forums, and began to enjoy givings things to this community.

I haven't done a public giveaway in about 3 months, and my private ones usually have a CV requirement, because I'd like the game I'm giving away to go to someone who's here for more than just free games. I wouldn't write support to have a rule on every one of my giveaways, because I usually don't think about giveaways for a week. I definitely wouldn't compile a whitelist, because I'm lazy, I would no doubt miss someone, and maintaining a list of everyone I see browse the forums with an "acceptable" CV would involve an enormous amount of work and time. The only option left is groups, but that would feel wrong to me, as I would never see those people that are just starting out on the forums, like I did.

to add a bit to this whole subject of deleted messages: I did removed the original comments, it wasnt by an admin.

I had not intention of censoring anything, just to remove the offensive props

I got a bit offboard as I mentioned, and yes, I shouldnt had. Didnt meant to be a douchebag, if it helps my situation even a bit

All I ask is: dont ride on this more than necessary if possible.

Hasn't public giveaways always been bundle bonaza for a long time?

I think the solution to the CV issues is to just value all bundle games as 0.00-1.00 what ever the community votes on as a fair CV value maybe 0.10-0.25 CV then add that and all other CV values to the games list where you initially make your giveaway that way everyone can see that the CV value they are getting 0-100 for their giveaway up front

I feel this would solve the this will solve the CV questions and complaints

Think this is possible am I way off on this thought could it be done?

Something tells me the removal of CV giveaways will decrease the influx of new members and their motivation to give games away.

The site might look like some of the other ones out there, with mostly low-valued bundle games available to see by the newcomers since a lot of 'better' ones will be held in groups exclusive to parts of the community, which to me seem more inaccesible than a current high-cv GA. Not to mention not having a 'magical' counter that shows promise of more and more giveaways being available. I'm not saying it's the right reason to contribute but I think it's a major one that keeps the site going.

Still I'm not the one to make predictions here since I pretty much just stand by and look what the community goes for. It will be interesting to see how steamgifts evolves with all these changes!

Personally, the CV system is important to the site until a better alternative is found. Sine bundle list no longer exists on SG2, there won't be much motivation to give non bundle games for some people. Plus, using a blacklist for giveaways takes too much effort to weed out leechers

I'm wondering ... won't application of white and black lists tax the servers even more? I mean, now the system will have to run a check against individual lists for all giveaways, no? I'm not a technical person, so this may be way off base.

Public giveaways are bad for several reasons. This is a pretty good move for everyone except the usual beggars.

In my humble opinion the current CV systems biggest flaw is that if a game's price is permanently lowered the CV goes down. I think it should stay the same as it was when the giveaway was created.

Seem everybody forgot this, while CV not important if you are a good member, good contributor of Sg, and able to join good giveaway group. But it the Bar that seperate decent member, and leecher. Find me a good giveway group without CV requirement, it a purpose, it a goal that new & decent member try to aim. I dont' think that remove it is a good idea

Pretty much every good member on SG start from no body, no CV, they giveaway good game, gain decent CV, get a name for themself by active on forum. And get apply to a good group that they will devote to . Without CV, there will be no motivation , there will be thought like this "why i need to do that, i just keep enter those ga, and will end up win some... someday" , i think it a very dangerous thought that iam CERTAIN that will be take root in the mind of new member (because i do EXACTLY like that on gala and gameminer )

You see, in my opinion, CV system is NOT A VERY FAIR SYSTEM, but it is a COMPLETE NECESSARY SYSTEM. You NEED a system to check, to revalue member, it be CV now, maybe we can come up with something better later, but when we still not reach that state yet, i really don't think it a good idea to remove a "member revalue system"

PS: what i say is try to explain my reason in a total utilitarianism way, of course there will be member do giveaway for compassion & selflessness . If what i say is offence someone , please forgive me

While I do not plan on making any public giveaways anytime soon, I do not intend of making my own whitelist. The simple reason is that I do not know all the nice people, but... someone else does. So, I find that multigroup giveaways are really nice way of community building, and with the new option for making group giveaways for several groups at once, new SG will be perfect.

Will whitelist+blacklist+multigroup attribute to less giveaways total? No way!
Will it look like there's less giveaways to the member of a public who's not in any groups/whitelists? Most certainly.

But, that's life.