Meh, don't like it, tough. That is the thing about gifting to random people. It could go to anyone.
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You can report an exploiter, or a member with alt account or fake giveaways. But you can't refuse to gift cheaters :-(
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That is not correct. We don't just approve requests if there is no reason. I don't know which giveaway you are talking about but you can check these out, since they are most likely the reason for that reroll :
http://i.imgur.com/Mi8yc4d.png
http://i.imgur.com/oI2KpIl.png
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Already owning a majority of a bundle is really a re-roll reason?
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It's because you already own the game. It's legit to reroll if the winner owns the game and was just entering for DLC/Extras.
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LOL! What a liar! xD
I requested a re-roll because you've already own the game. You need a special warning "not to enter the $30 pack for $ 6 dlc"? Really? What the hell?! I'm not going to describe the obvious things. <_<
On the contrary, well-mannered man would ask can he enter or not…
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You won the Humble Frozen Synapse Bundle bundle over a year ago and it includes the Frozen Synapse soundtrack, although not the "Steam version". In reality, chances are the one on Steam is only mp3 while Humble Bundle offers flac or mp3.
Thanks for openly admitting that you enter giveaways for items you already own!
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wow, your profile is impressive. and not in a good way...
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did you already own the base frozen synapse or something? because thats a rule even in public and doesn't need to be stated(its an extension of the rule not to own a game, if a winner owns any component of a bundle you can reroll because they entered and won a game they have(it just happened ot come with other stuff too))
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oh, then you're just being an asshole lol. if it was a multigame bundle that'd be understandable(still within the gifter's rights to slap you down though), but you entered for a game you own that happens to come wtih a side goodie(soundtrack) so the site didnt automatically stop you ;P why complain about that?
oh...so i didn't actually read anything else, its all been said 3 days ago and the post below the one i replied to answered that was exactly what it was lol. ignore me
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in my past giveaways ive had 3 people who had a vac ban on record, i asked for reroll saying i refuse to give my game to a person who has negative feedback. and all my people got accepted for reroll. just ask support and they will help make sure someone who deserves a game will get it
and they were all public giveaways
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@OP you can ALWAYS not give the game and suffer negative feedback.. thats not banable if it happens once.. and i agree with you..
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I can only +1 to you. SG stuff could foresee such annoying situations for contributors
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Even though I would support that too, it should be in the hands of the creator of the giveaway, to decide wether it's ok to have a cheater get the gift or not.
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Sorry, cheaters contributions don't matter when you take into account the fact that they CHEATED.
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So let's also exclude people that divorced people due to cheating (mariage) and anyone that's ever done anything wrong in life and got punished for it, from participating on this site, because they're so freaking relevant.
It's not like they stole the game and gave it to you, so... VAC ban is irelevant for contributors.
And since this site relies on contributors (and has a set of rules to avoid driving them away), this rule will never be approved by staff.
Also I do understand your anger towards cheaters (I also hate cheaters, everybody does), but you're releasing it towards punished cheaters, not towards active and yet undetected ones.
Again, you can just make a private GA if you don't want your game to reach a VAC banned account.
PS: I'm not really defending anyone here btw and I don't care if this gets approved or not because it doesn't affect me :} I'm only telling you guys why this most likely won't.
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Exactly this, it's your gift to people, if you don't want to add people with VAC bans, then ask support to make it a rule and bam you have what you're looking for. I see people with black lists all the time so I don't see too much of a problem?
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1.6 bans go to HLDM, CZ and 1.6.
Source engine bans (TF2, CSS etc) are game specific.
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You don't have to give the game to that person. You could take the -1. If you want to make a non-VAC/Trade ban giveaway, make it private or group only and get your rules approved by support. Then you're good to go. In this case, you either give it to them or you don't. If you feel bad about it, don't. There's no gun to your back.
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Tough question.
I don't have a strong opinion on the SG + vac ban topic, so I would probably allow it anyway.
But to be fair, you had to be very unlucky to get a winner like this. Very very few % of people have vac bans here, but that's just my guess.
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I agree with you. I would use that option for every giveaway. I trade games often, and will sometimes not trade with VAC banned people just because they're VAC banned. I strongly dislike cheaters because they're being very selfish and ruining a game for many others just because they think its fun. If you're actually good at a game then theres no reason to cheat. If someone disrespects other gamers by hacking and ruining a game everyone paid for, then why should other gamers have to respect them? I've had many bad experiences with hackers and have had trouble finding matches in games that DIDN'T have a hacker. Its so annoying. If people purchase a game they should be able to play it how its meant to be played, not be forced to server hop trying to find 1 good match until another hacker joins.
Edit: I don't care at all if you hack in single player games or in a private match with a friend. Its when it affects others that it is wrong.
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I agree a bit, but then again not so much. What about someone who has a vac ban from 2 years back? Everyone fucks up, getting punished for it even years later on other sites is just ridiculous. You people act sometimes like it's a serious crime.
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Comparing using a cheat in a videogame to raping and killing. Okay.
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Hello,
thanks for the replies already. It is kind of interesting how many people don't care to maybe gift cheaters/betrayers a free game.
About the "private" thing. I know that, due to the support, BUT! this question is for OFFICIAL support of this feature. I think, that people that betray others by external programs just should not be allowed to gain free games this way. It is like supporting a cheater, if he wins.
Also I have in my mind, that people that betray in games, will do that also outside like on websites.
And the VAC Ban is not harsh enough in my eyes. I have a mind of: VAC Ban = Full Steamban <3
But well, that'll never happen though.
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So, someone who fucked up 2 years back but didn't do anything wrong after that should get punished for it for the rest of his life? You sound like a lovely fella to me.
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I am someone you can have tons of fun with.
But I am very rightous and people that cheat, should not be awarded for it.
On Singleplayer do what you want, but don't submit cheated highscores or cheat in multiplayer.
Dunno why that makes someone a bad person, if they just like fairness ?
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Yeah ... no. You seem butthurt, that's all. I don't support cheating, I don't cheat, but honestly, don't you think you are overreacting a bit? And you didn't answer my question. Hopefully you'll never be a mod or anything, you sound like the type of person who will ban anyone who doesn't act like you think they should.
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Why am I overreacting ?
You can cheat in private games, where everyone knows, you can cheat in singleplayer as much as you want, as long as it stays on your client-side. Why do others have to be involved ?
Yes, if you get a VAC Ban it should get you a hard punishment. I am honest and already said, that I would even be for: VAC Ban = Steamban. Period. Might sound harsh, but come to think of it. If you have the risk of losing 100+ games, you REALLY think thrice about cheating. This should clearly answer your question.
Oh btw. I am Admin of some games and they go very well :)
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Please tell me the games so I will never touch them.
You get so worked up over video games, it makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time. Get your priorities straight. Cheating in a videogame sucks, yes, but it's not a crime, so stop treating people, especially those who cheated once when they were a stupid kid and never did it again, like criminals and demand draconian punishments.
And no, you still did not answer my question. My question was, what about those people who'se VAC ban is a few years old? They never cheated again, so what with them? Will you continue acting like a dick towards them? Stop seeing everything in black and white and stop being so butthurt about videogames. Jesus.
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He should have created a new account or think twice before actually cheating then. Keep in mind: he's talking about a user with MULTIPLE vac bans, not about someone who made a single mistake 8 years ago. :p
And of course people are butthurt, cheaters ruin the experience of thousands of others every single day.
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What about people who falsely got a VAC-Ban? They can't be removed. It's just ridiculous getting this butthurt over a videogame. Kick them, report them, move on with your life.
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Nope, if a VAC Ban is given falsely, they will be removed. I know a few which had that problem, when there was a few hours long bug in TF2 which created those false VAC Bans.
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VAC rarely makes any mistakes if they really did you can bug them till they look into it and probably get it removed.
And once again: the OP is talking about a user with MULTIPLE VAC bans, that can't be a mistake anymore.
And you can't kick people in CS GO competitive if they are in the opposite team, and the people of that team are usually dicks too because they see it as an easy win. You are forced to stay till the end of the game.
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Then just take a look at the answer under me ... he is talking also about users who have only one vac - ban, even if it's years old. Don't tell me that's not an overreaction? Over a video game? What the fuck is wrong with you people
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Cheating is cheating (if it's MP anyway, I dont give a fuck what you do in SP's, I've cheated enough in GTA SA lol), it being a videogame doesn't matter. If it's MP you ruin the experience for many others. Overreacting? Not really imo, those people paid for their game and that one dick ruined/is ruining it for others.
Go play 500 games of competitive in CS instead of that silly casual, maybe then you'll get it. It's lovely to be forced to stay till the end (or face a comp ban yourself) when you are playing versus an obvious aimbotter/wallhacker. :P
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I played enough competitive, I'm happy I'm not so oversensitive. Jesus people.
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I played over 400 hours competitive cs:go on my bfs account before I got it myself. You people are still overreacting it's just ridiculous.
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You don't play any MP games anyway so you don't have a clue what you are talking about. It's about fun, not about achieving stuff.
If there is a way to enable that invincible scorpion in Serious Sam 3 (without pirating it), do it. That's how it would feel if there was a cheater in your SP game, it's lovely.
Your cheap attempt to insult people is rather sad though.
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Nope, you don't have a clue. Like I said: It's free time, I want to have fun in my free time. If i encounter a cheater in CS GO competitive I'm forced to finish the game or get banned myself.
Real life and games are connected, it's called a hobby. I already work +40 hours and in my free time I want to enjoy some MP games. The games you talk you can just bunnyhop from server to server, easy to talk that way yeah. Ignorance is a bliss, isn't it.
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Stop it with Jesus...
He cheated on physics and got Crucibanned for it :)
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"Sometimes I had the first place in ranking, then someone else would take it. Maybe they were cheating, maybe they were not."
So you never encountered an obvious wallhacker/aimbotter? Shame I just removed my google+, had some nice videos of some guys I encountered :(
"Whenever someone spoils a game for me I give myself few minutes to be upset and depressed over it. Then I find something more interesting to do, like playing another game, and forget about it as if it has never happened."
This is not how it works in CS GO competitive, if you leave you are the one that gets a ban from matchmaking, you are forced to stay till the end. For many other games (or on a community server) it's not issue, you just go to another server but that's not always possible.
And it doesn't matter if it's just a game and you didn't achieve a thing, we play games in our free time to relax or whatever and a cheater ruins the experience for others who also spend their money/time on it. Having fun in your free time is just as important as the rest of your life.
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I wouldn't care if that VAC Ban is a century old.
They got it for a reason.
And a fake religious person has nothing to do with it... well... he was one of the most known cheaters against physics :P
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This sentence here is exactly why your view seems retarded. what exactly would this accomplish? i have a ban that is almost 10 years old. Back then the only games on steam were HL and mods (well mostly anyway). So even if they banned that account i could've simply made a new one and continued to cheat on that one. It makes no sense, it just fucks thigns up for us that learned from our mistakes and never cheated again. If the cheater's whole account got banned he'd simply make multiple accounts for the game he's planning to cheat in. So your incredibly narrow-minded idea of punishment would achieve NOTHING to help prevent cheating.
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No, he's also talking about people who only have one VAC-Ban, even if they are years old.
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once a cheater, always a cheater. thats the rule of thumb here.
ofc theres some exceptions. sad for them being the minority that has to suffer from general experience, but they probably should have thought about that before ruining everone else's experience!
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Games are Games.
If people cheat (do drugs) on real life games like football, soccer, cycling they get bans too and even pay harsh fees. So I don't care if it is a "virtual" Game or not. Cheating is cheating and as soon as it involves others, it is totally not okay. Be it shooting through walls, submitting impossible highscores, being invulnerable or pumping yourself full of steroids to be better then others.
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If I post that just internal as a ticket, I will definitly just get a "no" and another pre-set text about private giveaways. But I want my giveaways open, not private. Private, I can do on my Facebookwebsites or stuff. :)
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I agree, I don't like giving my hard earned money to cheating jerks.
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I am an admin on CSS, TF2, DODS, and CSGO servers but honestly I couldnt care less about VAC bans here at SG.
Plenty of people cheat and dont get VAC bans, so I've probably given games to cheaters already.
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Actually, I've heard of people getting a VAC ban out of nowhere, and then after a random amount of time, anywhere from an hour to a few months their ban just disappears. Its rare for false bans to happen (most people will just claim they didn't hack when they did), but they do get corrected in most cases it seems
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Erm...
Diseases, especially mental ones, are NOT something you can choose for... Now that is some absolutly an inacceptable comparision!
Cheaters can choose: Do I cheat or not.
People with a disease (I do not count in peeps that cut off their leg to get insurances or crash their cars being drunk like shit) do NOT chose to have a disease. Dude, that one is sick.
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I agree with this guy, they are already punished no need to place more hatred on them, hopefuly they learnt their lesson. Then again with that said, the feature wouldnt be bad if added to SG as only those who think this way would use it, not anyone else
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Very bad example ... you should have said something like "someone who stole something from a store 10 years ago and got punished for it and never did it again, we can't push them away they are part of bablalelblal" x)
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Yeah i get it, when i posted this the page wasn't refreshed yet and your posts which explained this weren't there but i got what you said don't worry ( and i agree ), it's just the way you put things "sounded bad" you know, which is why there was those reactions to your post x)
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I have a Vac Ban to but only because i modded in MW2. So i dont think everyone is a cheater or hacker or whatever only if they have a VacBan. I think there should be an Vac option to see for what the user got banned.
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+1 don't forget about modders, also targetted by VAC as cheaters, which is not always the case ... ( yeah sometimes modding = cheatings when it comes to programming / coding inside the game, but getting VAC banned for a model swap / model import is just complete bullshit )
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I don't see why we wouldn't have the right to fuck with files we bought ... Of course there are options outside steam, but if we mod a game it's to put something inside THIS game and not anything else XD + it adds more replay value to a game sometimes ( depending on the mod ) so i don't see why it could be a bad thing. And as long as it only affects the modder it's not anyone else's business.
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Should blame activision for not allowing any mods anymore (when talking about CoD anyway), just so they can sell overpriced skin/voicepacks themself. There are plenty of VAC secured games where you can mod the shit out of it so it's not completely VAC's fault :P
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yeah XD but seriously it's all dumb .. as long as it's something that will not affect anyone else but the user, what's wrong with it x)
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Depends on the model being used. If you swap the models on the other teams so that they are bright neon yellow and thus easier to spot in a dark map, then you might not be a modder, but just a cheater.
In the end, it's about making sure everyone is on the same level playing field. If you see something others do not, that's been ruined.
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Yeah what i said was just general, and more about VAC. Of course, i agree with everything you said, as long as everyone is equal on the GAMEPLAY, it's all fine.
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Just add it to your giveaway description then you're protected against having to actually gift the game in the event that someone with a VAC ban wins. I don't really agree with your policy for numerous reasons and I hope it isn't implemented by Steamgifts but there's nothing to stop you putting it in your own descriptions.
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In public giveaways you can't make any restrictions... For private giveaways you can ask the support people to approve your special restrictions, and they will re-roll if someone you're restricted wins the giveaway. But in public giveaways you won't get a re-roll.
Obviously you aren't forced to give the game to the winner, but you have to accept the consequences of not sending the game to someone after you've said you would...
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No offence, not defending anyone stupid enough to cheat in multiplayer games or anything, but this thread reeks of butthurt. There's no need to act like people who have been vac banned in random game x are sex offenders that just moved on your street. What's next? Putting a red mark next to their name on the forums? Like others have said the ban is punishment enough and you can't know that they've not "changed their ways"(lol) and stopped being stupid.
You're free to take the -1 if you don't wanna gift to a specific person, you would not be the first one :)
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Yes because those are the only games people hack in and because the games you see in my steam library must be the only games i play right? Trust me, you get just as upset running into a retarded hacker in MMOs in PvP. Difference is normal people should and do move on, not stay butthurt4life. That was my whole point.
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Hello,
on my first giveaway it happened, what I feared... I had to give a game to a known cheater with multiple VAC Bans.
I am known for being a cheater hater, I don't care about people that insult me because of it. Well, so I would love have an OFFICIAL option to disallow entrences for any VAC Banned users.
I do NOT want to support cheaters with free games especially not multiplayer games.
That I exactly hit such a player on my very first giveaway really struck me.
Would like to hear other opinions about that.
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