[UPDATE] You guys do realize that I am just not talking about the sale, consider it the last straw. I mean butchering the trade system, region locks, rumored (further) price increases in the EU regions, atrocious customer service, laggy unresponsive client, repeatedly crashing servers, neglected faithful gaming communities (TF2) and so on. (ah also the flood of s**t called Greenlight and the Early Access model that produces 9 failures out of 10 attempts, with the "success" being a half-baked mediocre game at best)

[RANT]

I am seriously thinking that Valve is starting to lose the crowd. This sale is disappointing, no event, no good games on sale, no interesting sales. It's just an ordinary boring storefront now.

I know I know they don't have to do this, they don't have to do anything but these little events and quirks were the things that really set Steam aside from the other vendors.

They also killed game trading, spat in the eyes of the TF2 community with an insult of an update (End of the Line) and they only care about milking their F2P cash-cows and not developing a game. The Steam client is still laggy and full of bugs, and their servers crash almost ever other week. I'm starting to think that they simply ran out of ideas and now they'll slowly kill over and die

Probably it is time for a new company to take their place, and do something fresh. Valve might become the next Blockbuster LLC

[RANT OVER]

Anyway I understand if you disagree, it is just an opinion, so take it easy. You think I am entitled? Well yeah I am a paying customer/consumer, of course I am entitled lol.

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I agree with you.

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i agree

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It's just a matter of time till a young enthusiastic team (like Valve was) sees the opportunity and seizes it. (see: Facebook)

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yeah, by their recent actions they are giving a lot of openings on the market for some other company to take benefit off. Funnily enough steam unintentionally might have helped quite a lot GoG Galaxy launch to be more popular. Personally im only using steam because a lot of the bundle games simply require it, and there was the cheap regional trading, now it pretty much lost its appeal for the most part as i can get similiar deal on all of the other shops if not better.

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Not likely to really hurt steam as GoG still doesn't have steam's sheer variety. Each of steam's competitors have their strong areas (such as EA's and Ubisoft's own games, Desura's massive indie library, and GoG's classic library), but other areas tend to be weak. Steam might not excel in any area but they're not really lacking in any of them.

9 years ago
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Steam's customer support is terrible and there's no refund policy (Origin and GOG have a refund policy). Those are two things Steam is lacking in.

9 years ago
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If either those became as big as steam, that policy would be abused as people would find a way.

9 years ago
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Origin only offer refunds on EA games though. It's like if Steam only offered refund on Valve's games. Would you consider it a good refund policy?

9 years ago
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Yes. You can't expect them to have to refund you for someone else's game. But there games on the other hand, yes. They should have a refund policy for them.

9 years ago
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I think it would make things more confusing for the average Joe. Hard to understand why the refund policy applies only to twenty-some games out of thousands.

9 years ago
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This. This this this and this. Oh, did it stress it enough?

They dont try because they dont have to. They really dont. They settle for "adequate" because "adequate" is the best there is out there right now.

I'd love to see what would happen if there were some serious comptetition, or at least a decent alternative to Steam. In fact, I'd pay to see that.

But there isn't. So there's that.

9 years ago
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Yall are enslaved because you don't wanna change accounts with all your games and money poured into this account. Competition is pointless at this point.

9 years ago
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Yes, but on the the bright side, it is better that we can use steam than have to use other [inferior] platforms.

9 years ago
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I agree with everything, I have a couple of cents and I want to buy some dlcs and purchase error purchase error purchase error, steam pls.

9 years ago
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"I am seriously thinking that Valve is starting to lose the crowd"

What other enterprise get it?

9 years ago
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There are always new companies emerging it's just the circle of life. Think about Myspace or even AOL, Yahoo lol.

9 years ago
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Ubisoft and EA I bet. Next year Micro$oft will destroy Steam with it's Windows 10 Store and Xbox App. Of course..

9 years ago
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EA? NooppEE not in thousand years....Microsoft or Ubisoft maybe..but EA? NooopEEEE

9 years ago
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EA is better than Microsoft and Ubisoft lately.

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Agree, some people said that ea sucks but i dont see the reason, also i enjoyed the ea games the most in my past, Fifa, C&C, Dead Space, Battlefield (only good memories). If there a possibility to transfer all my steam games to origin i do it with pleasure. I love to keep things simple for my gaming needs, steam changed from a game client to facebook alike and thats something i hate...

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This sale got nothing, just all same stuff from the past... I still didn't bought anything

9 years ago
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the only person who understands

9 years ago
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It takes time for newer games to build up the same discount as older ones.

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Yeah but the old games aren't even getting the discounts they got in previous years

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Got any clear examples?

9 years ago
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Last year I remember Last Remnant being 2.49, this year I see it at 4.99. Fallout 3 was cheaper than 11.99 as well. Course thats only a couple games but yea.

9 years ago
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Those are likely flash sale prices/etc as I think they both ended up in such sales in the past.

9 years ago
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You're new to steam? Because you don't know how it works.

9 years ago
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Prices are set by developers, so don't blame Valve for disappointing sale.

9 years ago
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Publishers, actually, but I'm nit picking. Essentially, you are right. And also. the publishers are actually more likely the ones pushing for the recent region sale/trade restrictions rather than Valve itself.

9 years ago
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There wasn't anything for me this sale until Shadow Warrior went on sale for 3.99 and 4.99 for the special edition. Pretty happy with that price.

9 years ago
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Steam is killing, slowly, all his costumers, just to feed Gabe with our corpses and wallets

9 years ago
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Remember when I posted about that a month ago?

9 years ago
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Its no one's fault you can predict future heresy

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+1

I believe these are the worst decisions Valve has taken in the last 5 years i am using the client. That 's because they have "gone over their minds" which means that they simply cannot handle the publicity, power and fame they have earned.

This is the point when the customers (us) need to find another alternative.

9 years ago
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unfortunately its true..

9 years ago
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Already found it. GOG.com :D

9 years ago
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Maybe its just disappointing, because many already own most of the games by now.... I mean i have seen people with 2000+ games ?

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The most disappointing thing about the sale is a lack of incentive/community activity an event or anything. Amazon has sales, Origin or Uplay does to but they are bland and boring, that's why people don't care that much about them. Now Steam sale is bland and boring too, so I ask: what makes it stand out now?

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True as well... what steam still does well - i think -, is all the friends, trading ( ok they are cutting that too :P), workshop, review writing, groups,videos and screenshot stuff, and it definetely has the biggest "market power" and range - so can you accept steam as the best of the worst ? :D
What could be true as well is that they don't really care anymore - as they are certainly ahead in the things i listed above, they can just lean back as they basically have the monopoly - i can imagine they made ALOT of money the last few years. (steam, cs go , dota)

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pretty much, discount on steam never were anything that standed out, it was the events

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There was Auction Event just before sale.

9 years ago
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Don't even. The biggest scam of all time.

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Biggest scam? Just if you're too dumb and look only for titles which everyone will bid a lot for them. Won 21 auctions and paid about 1000 to 2000 gems each.. All in my wishlist. Actually,t he auction was the best part of this Winter Sale and definitely better than the actual Winter Sales (bought a single game in 4 days....)

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Honestly, you can probably blame us for them not doing cool events anymore. I mean hell, that Winter Sale a few years back with that neat event was abused so badly, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the whole reason they stopped.

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I've seen a Korean guy with 4000+ games lol

9 years ago
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I got lots of new stuff. Not complaining at all.

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The guy said before that the prices really aren't Valve's fault, and he's right.

Nevertheless, this is a very disappointing sale for me. I'm really just looking for the newer Paradox game DLCs, and they're not going up for sale because they're too new. That leaves me looking at daily deals and something super cheap to show up and I've only gotten Prison Architect and a friend gave me The Novelist (which I'd recommend if you find it under $5). I was kind of hoping for a better sale price for the new Alien game, but it's also pretty new. I think this year has been cursed by having so many crappy games in the first three quarters and then such a glut of anticipated games in Q4.

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I've never actually liked Steam. I use it because I'm forced to. Didn't use it regularly until the launch of Skyrim, which even if you buy a physical copy you have to install it through Steam to get it to run.

Only good thing about it is the cloud technology factor. And I think most sane people are well aware that cloud technology is still very much a double-edged sword of potential problems.

Most of the other "features" of Steam range from grey area data mining to more or less blatant malware. But, we have to use it, so there it is.

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and it's not even a good client right? I mean sometimes I think I'm in the 90s dial-up internet era when it takes 15-30 seconds to load my Steam inventory with my superpowered optic fiber internet...

(btw odd, I too started using Steam when I bought a physical copy of Skyrim)

9 years ago
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Expand upon the malware please. I'm interested.

9 years ago
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"well aware that cloud technology is still very much a double-edged sword of potential problems."

Wait a minute please. Name a problem of cloud technology.

9 years ago
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For one, your personal data, screen shots, and save games are on a remote server that is subject to attacks and other failure. All your game content, which you technically don't own, but only have a license to, is also on remote servers subject to failure.
In the unforeseen possibility that Steam should suddenly crash and burn on the same day you reformat your primary storage device, then all of your data and games could be gone.

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  1. I understand you have not worked with the cloud technology in hand.
  2. "subject to attacks and other failure" -> There are many ways to get over with DDOS attacks in terms of minutes (if that's what you mean). The failures are "in the game" always and are expected as you deal with machines. Still a 99.99% of up-time is amazing!
  3. "remote servers subject to failure" -> Those remote servers you mention are either rooms full of wardrobe, full of servers or floors or even buildings! I still cannot find out what you mean with the term "subject to failure" cause as i said you deal with machines.
  4. "In the unforeseen possibility" -> I would say this is bullshit but i'll be nicer to you and say instead that every single hosting provider has the same amount risk, yet almost the 100% of them had never had a single server crashed. And even if a server crashes there are always the backup servers.

So, the whole "double-edged sword of potential problems" about the cloud technology is nothing but a bullshit.

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I wonder how many people started using steam because of skyrim. That's when I started too

9 years ago
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RANTHow iRANTLove toRANT

Yet people still indulge in the inevitable and throw there money around like it's a parade To achieve what exactly... I'd rather pay to have steam shut down, than pay for content that's suppose to be included with the product... Blah, Blah, Blah. to save you the agony of pulling your eyes out and basing the keyboard with some "warrior" moves.

Just My opinion.

Haters Be Hating is fine by me, I'll just do the "Shake it Off" and feel fine after. Laughs Hysterically

9 years ago
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I agree, Valve is losing it and it's not getting better as Sony's PS4 has the power to record and broadcast your game. Heck, the PS4 broadcasting system works soooooo much better than Steam's.

9 years ago
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I agree but I still hold hope. It's a long sale: I feel they might be saving the best for the second week.

9 years ago
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Last year's event wasn't taken so kindly as people don't like trying to pay a bunch of money to try to get an item for their game. And good games? Maybe to people who practically own everything, but what about someone just starting on steam?

Freshly released game aren't likely to have big discounts anyways.

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Sale being good or not is subjective. If you have a lot of games the chances are you already own the good ones and it ends up being lackluster for you.

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Sounds more like you're bored with Steam. They still offer 75-80% off and I'm not seeing anyone other than amazon (sometimes) who can compete.

9 years ago
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Shit, I find the sale okay so far, just don't have the money for games.

9 years ago
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They did have the auction, which I enjoyed, but they should have had a more inclusive event for the sale too.

The Steam client was terrible for me years ago, but while it's far from perfect, it does a pretty good job now considering all the stuff it does. Whether it needs to do all that stuff is another matter. :)

Overall though, I would definitely welcome Valve getting back into serious game development, and for there to be some serious competition to Steam.

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The problem is that valve has pretty much a monopoly in this market.

Kust think about it:
Steam is not only a place for you to keep all your games, no, for many people it's some place they also have a social circle. Steam won't go down so easily, as pretty much everybody has aquired a decent amount of games they store in their library, just as they found a lot of online friends.
Valve can pretty much do anything they want at this point.

And the thing with you not being satisfied with the games: You probably already have a lot of games or pretty much every game you're interested in, so the games going on sale aren't that interesting to you.

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The problem here is for most of you guys who think valve is losing it don't understand two things. One valve does not choose the prices for the sale or what goes on the sale that's all on the developers so if your games you wanted didn't go on sale go complain to the devs. Two most of you have tons of games already and its more of you already have whats on sale not "oh the sale is bad" (which is an opinion which depends on the persons situation) So take that into account and put it at "This sale was bad for me none of the developers put the games I wanted on sale"

9 years ago
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Here we go again.

Like I said in some other similar thread I hope that next year there will be zero (yes, ZERO!) discounts and then you'll appreciate what you had.

9 years ago
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This right here is a cup half full :D

9 years ago
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Not really, he'll just buy on Amazon, GMG, GamersGate, even retail shops...

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Sure, and when they do, people will go elsewhere for discounted games. It's not as if steam is the only place people can buy games.

9 years ago
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no event

Did you miss that whole Holiday Auction event?

9 years ago
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This. Best event in ages, 13 games while getting rid of useless background/emos. It's like 14 birds with one stone!

9 years ago
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True. I didn't appreciate the auctions but I DID manage to get rid of useless things fro inventory and get some free cardsa for that

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