"Thank you for contacting Steam Support.

You have a limited number of Trading Card drops for each game that does not reset.

Additional cards can be gained through Steam Trading or purchasing them off the Community Market."

Well, shit.

bobofatt (Support) (11 months ago)

That should increase the value of cards/items methinks.

I hope.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago)

for non-free games at least

Suits

(11 months ago*)

As it seems all of the games are paid. You have to own TF2 and Dota 2 'premium' in order to get drops. So you'll have to pay for these free games to get cards anyway, lol.

mm3n

(11 months ago)

Or buy items ;)

Timmaeh

(11 months ago)

unless they invite a shitload of ppl since that group has over 100k members i think

quasarballz

(11 months ago)

But it means you HAVE to buy/trade cards to complete a set. Guess it depends how many people want to sell vs how many people want to buy.

bobofatt (Support)

(11 months ago)

yeah they'll see how much money they are making with the fees on the market and then they'll decide if and how to change something

painman01

(11 months ago)

Multiple accounts to get all the TF2 and Dota2 cards. Multiple accounts to get all the CS:GO cards since it's free weekend. I can't see the TF2 and Dota2 rising too much in price because most of the people who sell will probably have multiple accounts.

jatan11t

(11 months ago*)

Oh sweet! Free weekend for CS:GO! I can get the cards :)

bobofatt (Support)

(11 months ago)

Let me know if that works for you, it doesnt show up on my badge page :(

kataztrophik

(11 months ago)

I can't seems to even d/l it for the weekend, has it not started yet?

bobofatt (Support)

(11 months ago)

It has, I had to restart Steam before it showed up in my library

kataztrophik

(11 months ago)

Oh yeah, guess I shoulda tried that. Thanks :)

bobofatt (Support)

(11 months ago)

can you idle in cs:go for the cards by running text mode?

badaboom

(11 months ago)

Yes. But not in Free weekend, you have to own it.

MrCastiglia

(11 months ago)

Are you sure?

badaboom

(11 months ago)

I don't own CS:GO, played 2.6 hours with the free weekend and did not receive any card drops. You must own the game if you want cards to drop.

kataztrophik

(11 months ago)

welp, that sucks, guess my only card drops will be from tf2 and dota2. Anyone know if I can run dota2 on title screen in textmode for drops?

badaboom

(11 months ago)

yes you can idle for the cards.
go into the game in single player without bots and start the map.
then just click alt+tab and you can work on your pc like usual while waiting to get all the drops.

:)

P4INKILL3R

(11 months ago)

Don't even need to be in a map, idle at the menu also works... :)

fiftykyu

(11 months ago)

T__T I hope I get my invite before Sunday

jatan11t

(11 months ago)

Or run a few TF2 alts like a lot of people already do..

Ansatsunin

(11 months ago)

So ppl who have a numerous accounts will enjoy this...

Gawaine

(11 months ago)

Not really since they have to grind for the cards that takes up allot of time

Dzeeraajs

(11 months ago)

Not at all, ppl report getting cards for having the game idling on the main menu in the background while doing other things, even playing other games.

iqgobo

(11 months ago)

You don't have to grind, you don't even have to properly launch the game. Just leaving the One Source Game at a time message on will do the trick.

Like he said, this benefits multiaccounts and not really anyone else.

c00lizz

(11 months ago)

well, at some point they will add more and more games...

SilenR

(11 months ago)

Ateszmadman (11 months ago)

lol that suxs

IKR...

darkdude8

(11 months ago)

Cha0sSt0rm (11 months ago*)

Well, that's a bit shit. I'd have thought it would be limited drops per week for example, not permanently.

Laudes (11 months ago)

Good for value, indeed. I don't like dota anymore, but I can sure get those cards to trade them away for other cards/ or refined metals.

Skylark (11 months ago)

Oh crap, that sucks! I thought it would be something like TF2, a limit per week and not forever! -_-

olith (11 months ago)

How many cards does it take to complete a set?

It depends.

5 for Don't Starve.
9 for Hat Fortress 2.
8 for Half-Life 2.
8 for Portal 2.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago*)

Hat Fortress? :D

Skylark

(11 months ago)

you mean Team Hat Simulator 2013

olith

(11 months ago)

You mean the one with that shooting mini-game?

GiygasVan

(11 months ago)

LMAO

Viacoloris

(11 months ago)

Anyhoo (11 months ago)

Crap , i just sold 5 of them for 1 ref each

ppl are getting much more on the marketplace last I looked

Matrixomega

(11 months ago)

I make about 14 bucks, on Steam Market selling my TF2, HL2 cards

xXGatumadreXx

(11 months ago)

fredfioreze (11 months ago*)

Would you mind posting a screenshot of this? :)

I think I'll post this on /r/SteamTradingCards so...

Added picture to the OP.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago*)

Thanks!

fredfioreze

(11 months ago)

xarabas (11 months ago)

I expected weekly drop reset at least, this is bullshit

I assumed weekly as well, same as tf2 item drops.
Actually, I still assume weekly, it doesn't make sense to limit them and have them used in crafting.

TheShobo (Support)

(11 months ago)

it'd decrease the value of the cards too much, and make trading pointless. as it is they're only worth like 1$ a piece. when it opens to everyone. gg.

beebs

(11 months ago*)

At least a monthly reset would be interesting, none is kinda brutal.

KaiserTroll

(11 months ago)

They did it to make the steam community a bigger part of steam. So non resetting card drops is a logical step, so people who want badges have to TRADE their trading cards with community members.

olith

(11 months ago)

Aeternum (11 months ago)

Arent you supposed to get 1 card per 20 hours in a game? I had a pool of 5 card drops for TF2 (102 hours) and none for dota2 since I only played it for 45 minutes.

I got like 6 TF2 cards in few hours.

Ateszmadman

(11 months ago)

No, you get 3-4 cards per hour.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago)

I see. Thanks :)

Aeternum

(11 months ago)

Observe that you have to have DOTA2 premium to get cards from that

Laudes

(11 months ago)

Jozzz (11 months ago*)

Do you think there will be a flood of invites soon like there was with the new community beta?

I doubt it.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago)

well i just got one emailed to me from valve so it looks like they're coming out quickly

Jozzz

(11 months ago)

They just said they're sending out another 10k invites right now.

bobofatt (Support)

(11 months ago)

50k invites today, similar number tomorrow.

ThreePipeProblem

(11 months ago)

yep, i got mine and sold 3 invites on the steam marketplace for $2 almost instantly.

Jozzz

(11 months ago)

RainBoom (11 months ago*)

So at last it's only profile backgrounds that we'll have to buy in real money as we can only get up to half a set by ourselves ? Or in the better cases trade half of a set for another half-set from which we have the other half to complete the set and get the background we'd want.

Seems more shitty than the first impressions.

This isnt clear at all srsly..

Never played magic or any other TGC, have you? That's the point of trading cards.

olith

(11 months ago)

yes i did, and you say bs

RainBoom

(11 months ago*)

Peroxide (11 months ago)

TF2 idlers rejoice!

Limited amount of drops means the idlers with countless accounts will be getting the most out of this!

Dis lol

Delorian

(11 months ago)

If I'm not mistaken, each account needs to at least made an in-game purchase for the F2P game to drop cards.

fadillzzz

(11 months ago)

Multi idlers often have premium accounts because they cannot trade otherwise. I think

MrCastiglia

(11 months ago*)

Yep, you need premium accounts for proper idling. TF2 farmers rejoice!

c00lizz

(11 months ago)

+1

Idling is rather useless when you can't get the items from the account.

Peroxide

(11 months ago)

<3

Raiden (Support)

(11 months ago)

Foils will still have value then.

pielord17

(11 months ago)

I have no clue what you're trying to imply by that.

I never said anything would be devalued, I was celebrating because I'd get tons more cards than the average user.

Peroxide

(11 months ago)

But getting tons will of course devalue it.

pielord17

(11 months ago)

If there were more idlers than legit players, it'd be possible, but since you only get half the required cards you'd need a 1:1 of idlers:legit for everyone to complete their sets.

Unless of course no one has any interest in the cards and then the market would obviously become flooded.

Peroxide

(10 months ago)

Tsok (11 months ago)

Yeah... what if someone have 10 acounts with TF2 and dota2?

You only get cards from TF2/Dota if you bought something from the ingame-shop (or if you bought TF2 before it was free)

flip972

(11 months ago)

isnt it only 5$

badaboom

(11 months ago)

More like 40 cents each actually. But you do have to put 5$ on the wallet. Also it's being rumoured that you'll get a drop every 9$ spent.

MrCastiglia

(11 months ago)

flip972 (11 months ago)

Is it already known how many cards you can get per game?

5 for Don't Starve. 9 for Hat Fortress 2. 8 for Half-Life 2. 8 for Portal 2.

Tsok

(11 months ago)

Thanks, but i meant how many cards can drop if you play a game, until you don't get any more cards from playing that game.

flip972

(11 months ago)

You can look it up under badges. 4xtf2, 4x Dota2, 4x Portal 2. Even if I have to admit: I droped 5 tf2 items so there was a reset. Also: you can drop dupes.

Infernotoni

(11 months ago*)

Ah, there it is. Thank you!

flip972

(11 months ago)

50% of the total (rounded up).
i.e. 3 for Don't Starve, 5 for TF2, etc... etc...

Incog

(11 months ago)

TheShobo (Support) (11 months ago)

This doesn't make sense, I think the person was misinformed.

If this was the case the supply of cards will run out far too quickly as you need a lot more cards than you can get on your own to level up even to level 1 of each badge.

Somehow, I think that's the point. They want people to buy those cards through the community market so they make a cut out of it.

Zomby2D

(11 months ago)

Well that's one day of making some money. After that the cards are gone and they won't get any money anymore.

rubber2006

(11 months ago)

They'd make a fuckton more if they had it reset. Sure they'd get a smaller amount per sale but they'd get thousands and thousands more sales.

TheShobo (Support)

(11 months ago)

Or they can sell them in the Steam store as well. Get the momentum going with a free teaser, then have the supply dwindle until you can only buy them directly from Steam.

jatan11t

(11 months ago)

On the one hand its hard to deny that there wont be a lot of cards at one point (if this information is correct) on the other hand it forces players to TRADE their trading cards (those sly dogs ;) )

olith

(11 months ago)

MrCastiglia (11 months ago)

This sound reallly stupid. Cards will eventually run out.

ssshikari (11 months ago)

Im happy for u guys. But give me an invite to Steam Trading something-something. lol.

fadillzzz (11 months ago*)

Nice response, there.

Cloonaid (11 months ago)

Level 5 Portal 2 badge reporting!

SPAAACE!

Jealous...

kataztrophik

(11 months ago)

How?

Stevoisiak

(11 months ago)

Buy cards, then craft them.

Cloonaid

(11 months ago)

CR7CAMIAO (11 months ago)

Support answered you in four hours? Holy shit

It's a miracle!

Grizzlywolf

(11 months ago)

Usually it takes 2 days. I was surprised too.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago)

HOOH (11 months ago)

It should reset once crafted a badge, for that game. That would make more sense.

E.g. Player 1 trades cards to Player 2 >> Player 2 crafts a badge >> Player 2 gets some from the reset >> Trades to Player 1 so he/she gets the badge as well

(Assuming that is an ideal case)

Gummydrop (11 months ago)

Sorry all of you who idled for cards before you were level 10!

If someone was below 10 (at least a few levels though) when this thing started what would it matter if he idled the cards or not? Waiting for new levels from steam events will take months if not years and things will change.

And if you were supposed to level up by cards you'd use the ones you got dropped, so still no level 10 cards dropped.

Unless, of course, someone would buy the whole sets before dropping so he would start idling with a small chance to get Foils. Then again I doubt that could be profitable as the chance is small and the cards are a bit expensive when it comes to a whole set.

ViciousCrow

(11 months ago)

"There is no extra benefit to having foil cards or foil badges aside from their rarity."

beebs

(11 months ago)

That is a pretty huge benefit when you can sell them on the market for quite a bit :p

BernardoOne

(11 months ago)

bibboorton (11 months ago)

But there's 5 levels per set, right? :o That makes these buying cards then and not trading cards.. I'd hoped it at least resets after you craft a badge set.

5 levels per set only till level 10. From level 10 to 20 its 2.5 levels per set, and so on.

Necroblight

(11 months ago)

He's means badge levels, not player levels. Each crafted badge can be upgraded 5 times. So you need 5 complete sets of game cards for a level 5 badge.

Gilgongo

(11 months ago*)

Dainius (11 months ago)

So if I got a badge, I need to buy cards to update it?

zelghadis (11 months ago)

They don't know what they're doing themselves...
Read here
look especially on this line: Future in-game purchases will result in more card drops.

It doesn't make any sense compared to this support answer.

You do have a point. We'll see how it goes.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago)

It depends on how you read it.

It says DOTA2 and Team Fortress 2 have a different mechanic because they are f2p games. It does still mention a drop limit, though. The only question is whether you can reset or increase that limit with future in-game purchases.

Valve might have decided that the number of cards should be related to the price of the game. In that case, they could have decided that continual in-game purchases should increase how many cards you can get from that game. (Which would also conveniently encourage people to spend more money in those games.)

It sounds like there are a lot of problems with the system, anyway. Features aren't working. Card drops aren't working right in some games. Crafted coupons have issues. (In the thread you linked, one commenter said he ended up paying full price for a game that he had a 90% off coupon for. Another commenter received a coupon for a game that isn't sold outside of a bundle, and the couple doesn't apply for the bundle.) Steam Support won't give clear answers, which is par for the course for Steam Support.

It looks like another half-thought out and poorly executed idea for Steam, like Greenlight. Or arguably like half the stuff that Valve introduces in general. It may be in beta, but Valve really should have had it in better shape, and communicated how it works (or at least is supposed to work) better than they've done.

Baines

(11 months ago)

+1.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago)

quasarballz (11 months ago)

ofc there will be resets, thats probably a bot answer lol
btw 10k were invited now so better sell your shit fast since prices will drop much

I'd rather expect Valve to make CardsShop where you can buy each card for $2 instead of resets.

PsyKo

(11 months ago)

each card no, but I do expect them to sell booster packs or something like that.

BernardoOne

(11 months ago)

That's better idea.

But for some reason, I think it will turn out to be "Missing a card? Buy pack for $10 hoping you'll get one missing, while we'll give you 4 copies of most common in market place and 5th you already have" :P

PsyKo

(11 months ago)

It's possible they're using a script, but I somehow doubt that was an automated message.

The current cards have "Series 1", so that would lead me to believe they plan on having more. I could see them resetting when the new series is released, but this is BETA so nothing is concrete anyway.

Peroxide

(11 months ago)

kt (11 months ago)

If it really doesn't reset, I can't see even a few percent of the steam users go after this further than the first few days, me included.

TwisttedElement (11 months ago)

Time to idle and trade or sell em :DD Idc much about these anyways does anyone really care?

The people who buy them?

NastyHero

(11 months ago)

TheRealDealReece (11 months ago)

No biggie I have plenty of metal I could trade to complete my TF2 set.

fredfioreze (11 months ago*)

FAQ updated - Drop limits & Dota 2

tf2/dota2 = 1 more card drop for around $9 in game items

other games = no reset

Sad :/

Moronic. People will make a $1 purchase of a TF2 item on an alt account and get 5 more cards rather than spending $9/card.

(edit to add, I'm calling the system moronic, not you... o.O )

ACorpse

(11 months ago*)

Premium accounts get the 5 cards only if they were premium prior to the trading card beta going live, I think. So no, you'd have to spend the $9 to get one more, and just buying a 50 cent item to become premium won't give you 5 card slots.

Celdiruen

(11 months ago)

Necroblight (11 months ago)

Well, screw that, I'm going home.

MattyMatt (11 months ago)

Why are people so hyped on these cards? I don't get it.

They seem to do nothing.

You could easily extend that; games only waste time, they don't do anything useful either.

ACorpse

(11 months ago)

There's always one idiot that exaggerates your statement.

MattyMatt

(11 months ago)

OK let's see then. They allow you to set a profile background, they let you spam chat with annoying icons, they make you money. That's quite a bit more than most games.

ACorpse

(11 months ago)

Yup these cards are buying me CS:GO which will give me more cards :p

McWafflez

(11 months ago)

:csgoanarchist:

MrCastiglia

(11 months ago)

:yay:

PE99

(11 months ago)

well, they give you free moneeeiiiiiiis

You can also craft them into a badge and you will receive emoticons for chat, background for your steam profile and a chance of getting a discount coupon for a game.

BernardoOne

(11 months ago)

How does it give you free money?

MattyMatt

(11 months ago)

Steam market

TheDopefish

(11 months ago)

So people sell the cards? Surprised it isn't hats for your avatar.

MattyMatt

(11 months ago)

De gustibus non est disputandum... :)

fiftykyu

(11 months ago)

What about my mother? You asshat

Say that to my face and see what happens

xarabas

(11 months ago)

yo mama so fat she has her own orbit

nosef

(11 months ago)

You can craft them and get a nice steam profile

ThreePipeProblem

(11 months ago)

MADNESSSsss (11 months ago)

A friend gave me his Dota2 cards saying he doesn't have any use for them D:

McWafflez (11 months ago)

The cards will be worthless once everyone gets into the Trading Card Beta

Yeah. It is prolly a good idea to sell them on the market now and rebuy the ones you need later when the prices drop to approx 0.2 €

TRUCKER

(11 months ago)

Yep made enough money off of cards to buy CS:GO and get more cards XD

McWafflez

(11 months ago)

yupignome (11 months ago)

Reminds me of that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia when Mac and Dennis distribute Paddy's Dollars to the shanty-dwellers. Self-sustaining economy!..............right?

JosTheReal (11 months ago)

If they're not going to reset the counter per week I think this will fail.

leaderlord (11 months ago)

Valve, you dissapointed me... Im installing origin right now.

rgirvan864 (11 months ago)

What I'm confused about is the foil cards. If you only have a limited number of drops and you have to be level ten to get a chance at getting them and the only way to get to level ten is to have participated in past Summer/Winter sales or get complete sets of cards. Then a large majority will then have reached their limit before they reach level ten and then have no chance at getting a foil card without paying a large amount of money on the marketplace.

That's the point.

vidmavidma

(11 months ago*)

This topic is now closed.