Let's picket Valve's HQ

Indeed, they seem hell bent on destroying trading. -_-

Dota keys, then the weird lock, then the 30 day no trading, now total region locks.

So you don't want to picket their terrible customer service? The CS that hasn't improved in 10 years? The CS that can sometimes take a month to respond?

Yeah, you got your priorities straight.

I did not understand very well the region lock. If I purchase a game as a gift, from Italy, where I could gift this game? In Europe only?

I don't see how this affects Trading in general, really. If anything it's a bad news for cheapskates gamers who always been exploiting regional prices. Ofc publishers wouldn't like that and Valve had to take their move.

The only way i see this affecting trading is stopping people from exploiting price glitches and russian prices. You people are crazy if you did not see something like this coming. If you're gonna picket Valve picket them for their shit support, shit refund policy, the cesspool that is Greenlight or allowing devs to scam people through Early Access.

Won't this cut down on people buying revoked keys? doesn't sound that bad to me.

In the short run, people will cry and bitch and moan that they can't exploit regional prices anymore. But in the long run, people will be much happier with Valve simply because buying straight from your local market is the safest and most secure option.

I just can't help feeling picketing Valves HQ would look something like this?

i almost want to start using origin/uplay(no just kiding)

I remember a time when the whole point of Steam was buying and playing games without having to deal with other terrible DRM. Where along the line did Steam become about buying and hoarding games in hopes of trading them for something you want? Oh, right. The time when people decided one-use TF2 keys were worth games simply because they'd paid money. So much entitlement these days. That's literally a I see from this latest outcry. "Waaah, you're infringing on my entitlement to do anything I can, up-to-and-including exploiting regional pricing to skirt the TOS, to avoid paying full price for a video game."

You should just be happy that you don't have to deal with DRM like Starforce that could sabotage your CD/DVD writers because of 'incompatibilities'. Hell, be happy that the services like Origin, uPlay and Steam don't have a mechanism to sabotage your internet connection if it so much as detects 'questionable software'.

Count me in xD

That whole thirty day thing sounds pretty reasonable... Find better things to picket, maybe things that cause people actual suffering, for example.

Life is hard.

is all about the money
maybe someday steam will do correct currencies convertions on store and not on wallet cards redeems

The reasons of why the 30 day block is NOT reasonable, since some people probably don't trade much and possibly have no experience:

1. Traders will buy games from sales.

2. They have to either use the gift option or wait 30 days for more security to be added to the trade.

3. If they use the gift option, there is a possibility that one of the parties will get scammed (unless he is a legit trader).

4. If they use the window option and wait 30 days, the traders will increase price of gifts if the sale is currently over.

If I made any mistakes, please feel free to correct me.

Also remember, people with gifts usually go second, so you might have to go first during every trade.

Another PS, lets not forget about how every newly released game is region restricted, if that keeps happening then buying from your own Steam store could pretty much be your only way of getting games. Traders don't run charities to sell games without making profit, so if their price is similar to yours, you are better off buying from your own Steam store.

I would but you have no idea how bad Bellevue traffic is...

It would be nice to see a change in people's opinion of Steam. Fuck knows it's due and deserved for a long time.

Yeah no...more important things in this world to protest...

I already said my feeling about it. But we are small against the other millions of users that only trades TF2 or nothing at all.

In other words, I believe there is nothing we can do :/

They used to make games, now they make money.

This isn't just about regional trading. Region locks are one thing, 30 day restrictions are another.

In the past I've bought games on sale with TF2 keys and metal. Now I'm forced to pay Valve Steam Wallet, which is actual money, if I want a game during a sale.

That's the whole point. They want users to pay them money directly instead of trading each other the profit that they could be making.

It says that it is still possible to immediatly gift the game to anyone. As far as I remember you can transform games you receive as a gift into an inventory item. Wouldn't that allow to bypass the rule somehow?

I know it's annoying that you lose the possibility to trade gifts. But that shouldn't destroy the trade market. If you have a trustworthy trader you can still go first and let him gift you the game afterwards and there will be no risk at all..if he is trustworthy like I said.

So, what makes you so entitled to demand anything at all?

Go Picket yourself. other people are thankful that this happened.