Sad that this had to happen.
I guess people are and will always be greedy, wish we could just have legit developer giveaways like this one.
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Well, thats a shame. Fortunately, I already had the games from a bundle.
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So even though I only got 1 key, it will get revoked?
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Very possibly if you got it before midnight through their store page, definitely if you got it with the direct key generator link.
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Seems so. Sucks, but people have exploited their kindness. Can't really blame them, though I'm sure some idiots will want to.
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So I redeemed one key on my steam account today as yesterday I wasn't on. That means I'm going to get my copy revoked I guess? Sad :(
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I wonder. They should have kept track of the keys that were generated after midnight, not just redeemed. Traders don't sell everything overnight. Otherwise, I'm okay with all the giveaway keys being revoked. I didn't abuse, so I'm not expecting a Valve hammer.
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De-personification doesn't help with responsibility, either.
"The internet" didn't do anything. It's simply a tool used by those that choose to do what they do. In this case, people showed their slimy, lousy, selfish, greedy side. It's a choice.
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No idea what you're talking about, but it doesn't excuse the personal responsibility factor with those that did what they did. That was my point.
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WHAT! Nooo no no... I thought the guy was just being nice and giving away the key! What the hell! Who can I talk to? I can't have all my games deleted!
Edit: Oh god, I misread that. I was about to burn the guy who did this. I guess this is a lesson learned. I didn't have the chance to participate so I thought the guy was being nice giving away the copy. This is very unfortunate.
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It's true. I saw that from the multiple football players in that rape case, too.
Victim's fault. Every time.
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Faggot and all derivatives are not acceptable wording on this site.
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Actually, having read about the entire situation (not just this post) it is more like someone threw an open party at their house and were giving away free gifts.
The front door was not enough for all the guests, so they decide to open up the back door and put up signs leading people to the back door. Then, they decide to end the party but only closed the front door and put a sign on it saying the party was over and they go upstairs to pass out from too much alcohol consumption. In their drunkeness, they made the mistake of leaving up the signs pointing to the back door that said the party was still happening and neglected to tell enveryone the party was over. People kept coming through the back door all night and taking what they were told were free gifts (some scoundrels took more than their fair share, but that is to be expected in any sort of unmonitored free giveaway).
In the morning, the owner of the house wakes up from his drunken sleep and realizes he left the back door open and the signs up, so he quickly rushes people out of the house, closes the door and takes down the signs. Then he calls the cops and tells them to find all the people who got the free gifts and forcefully take it away from them, despite the majority of them having done nothing wrong aside from the owner of the house who forgot to make sure the party was fully ended before passing out upstairs while the party raged on.
But, hey, at least he asked the cops to not arrest or charge anyone for taking the things they were told they could have. :D
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House owner wasn't the one holding out a party, it was a third party. House guests still took his things without his consent, but knowing he had part of the fault, just chose take back what's his and not pursue further actions.
And the party guests still act like they were damaged by being denied free stuff.
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Sadly, this is somewhat true. You can't expect everybody to think " well, I'll take just one key", there will always be the asshole who ruins everything.
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And as we all know, the lack of organizational skills absolutely gives everyone the right to exploit their systems, and the one at fault is COMPLETELY the developer.
That is so delusional and just outright evil that I hope you step on a LEGO. With your dick.
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^ Gets it.
The phrase "They should've known better" is an open excuse for reprehensible behavior and victim blaming.
Exactly what happened above. The severity of the crime may vary, but the excuse mechanism doesn't change.
I gave an example in a previous thread. If I tell you, "I once professionally instructed performance driving" in casual conversation, and then you get in a car with me later, you are not to blame when I make you vomit, cry, or defecate yourself. I was driving the car, no matter what I told you.
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Once again, if you're okay with blaming the victim, then that's between you, yourself, and whatever future situation that might change your mind (which I hope is minor, if you have to go through it).
But that's what you're doing, even if you want to try and excuse it by degree.
I'll leave it alone now, but IMO, there's no excuse for behaving poorly (or defending those who do) by victim blaming.
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it was just one person who grabbed that many keys? wow.
i got the entire wadjet eye catalog through a variety of bundles and after playing gemini rue and the blackwell legacy (the blackwell series is actually developed by wadjet eye) he quickly became one of my favorite developer / publishers. note it's a he, as in one guy. his name is dave, and he has a very young daughter. he's the guy that has to deal with the fallout from this, not some huge faceless game company. i hope he at least gets some publicity out of this and i encourage anyone who doesn't already have his games to go buy some of them -- i didn't particularly enjoy puzzle bots but all 4 currently-released blackwell games and gemini rue were amazing! a new blackwell game should be coming out soon and i'm planning to buy that one on release or even pre-order if that's an option.
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No, one person here posted it. Unfortunately, that link spread and spread after that. Some users who didn't know there was an issue took a key from there, others exploited it.
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It's absolutly not the fault of an SG member, the person who posted the deal here was found on reddit. The direct link to grab a key was available to everyone after clicking on "buy now" during the night in this page: http://www.rosablackwell.com.
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Incorrect. The giveaway used a frontend. The frontend displayed a key generated by the distributed link. At no point were users sent to that link, it was simply used to generate the key. This was leaked by a S.Gifts member, leading to it spreading widely, leading to where we are now.
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I think y'all are talking about two different users. The first was innocuous. The second, not.
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If you're talking about the getkey.jsp link, then I got to it too through their site!
I used "buy now" and entered the "boo" discount code (not "boo2"), got the game but no steam key... after a few hours I got back to the BMT site via buy now and it showed me that I bought it and the download links but a new button was there, a "Get Steam Key" which redirected me DIRECTLY to the .jsp file which generates the key, so there was no back end 'hacking', they linked us to it which makes it a front end, it's kinda their fault.
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Well, how do you explain I was able to acces to the "key generator" page without clicking on any "tricked" link ? What I have done is pretty simple: accessed to rosablackwell.com > click on "Buy Now!" > "Get a Steam key".
I just was warned that they have added Steam key by this message, I haven't clicked on any other link than the one present on the original reddit message, http://www.rosablackwell.com.
Edit: Digi has been more faster.
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Oh, so a link that gave keys was exploiting? I was forwarded that and got mine and then shared it with some people. Hmm. I feel bad I should have figured out something fishy was going on, though.
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I'm in the same boat. I got the keygen link through a normally reputable site, and I didn't realize they were unintentionally posting an exploit.
If that makes me a horrible person according to some people around here, so be it. I've still got the game in my Steam library, BTW.
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Who knows why, this doesn't sound new to me. High prices and people complain, low prices and people complain, free games and people try to make a profit out of it.
Well i guess you can never please everyone, but still...
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I'd say it's totally within their rights to do this.
Same as the puppy games promotion.
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There's absolutely no question that it's in their rights and I support them in this decision.
There is, however, the question of how this could have been avoided.
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Blackwell series is a great series. Shame this had to happen. I do recommend anyone who enjoys these type of games to buy it. They won't regret it.
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Can't really blame them. Hell, i didn't even know it was being exploited that much until i unfiltered public giveaways.
It's a shame, as the game seems quite interesting (haven't tried it yet), but i cannot blame them for that decision.
EDIT: I remember not using the "official" link; i thought the site was down, and used the one given around thinking it was ok, apparently it was an exploit. Fuck.
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Yesterday, there was a nice little giveaway of Blackwell Deception from the developers. You had to go to their site, add it to your cart and input a code and you'd get it for free. It was rather nice. Unfortunately, that giveaway ended. More unfortunately, someone here on Steamgifts decided that was not acceptable and posted a direct link to the key generator. They'd taken down the frontend of the giveaway, but not the backend at the time. 30,000 keys were stolen overnight. The mods were already at work deleting multiple copies of these giveaway and suspending the users for exploited key giveaways before this. Now, we're likely going to delete every giveaway of Blackwell Deception posted from this giveaway and it has already been removed from the giveaway list. Every key is likely to be revoked from this giveaway. They are currently trying to revoke only the keys used after midnight (not sure what time zone that is but it appears to be midnight GMT), but in case that is impossible, prepare to have every key, including the legitimate ones, removed from your Steam account or whoever you gave it to. Everyone who made multiple giveaways here for these keys will be suspended and have their giveaways deleted. Everyone who didn't exploit the developer's generosity may unfortunately fall victim to the latter anyway to avoid a ton of work for support and yourselves dealing with "fake" giveaways. My apologies to everyone for this, but unfortunately everyone is put out now thanks to one person's greed.
Update: The developer has confirmed that any keys recieved before midnight will be allowed to stay.
Update 2: cg's PSA
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