(Closed) Hookups group disabled?

100 Comments - Created by Peroxide 1 year ago

This group has been administratively disabled.

They get in trouble for mass inviting again or does that message mean the admin of the group disabled it?

cowbell (1 year ago*)

It might be the result of an imposter group.

IgotElbows (1 year ago)

"They get in trouble for mass inviting again"

If that were the cass then all giant groups on steam would be disabled. Because that's all they fucking do. lol

The admin of the group has been suspended a few times for it already. I'm not a social butterfly so I'm not really aware of how other groups function.

Peroxide

(1 year ago*)

Obviously you're not a social butterfly. You're a social Moogle. :D

Jamoke

(1 year ago)

I don't know about you but I get invites from random groups I have never heard of that I have no friends in on a fairly regular basis. Unless I'm way more special than I thought these are probably from mass invitation waves

FogFrog

(1 year ago)

One every couple of weeks perhaps. I don't keep random people on my friends list nor do I post very many places, so I don't get invited that often.

They don't have a button that says "Invite every Steam user" so they have to find you somehow.

Peroxide

(1 year ago)

The ability to see people you have played with recently can be a double-edged sword. Nice to be able it identify that good player to friend, but it also lets giant groups join a bunch of games and suddenly have a full list of "fresh meat" to invite

FogFrog

(1 year ago)

They can also write a script that scans each user's friends list they have the SteamID64 for in their database. Then it will loop through those people's friends as well and just keep going until it doesn't find any new SteamID64s.

killergp123

(1 year ago)

If I don't keep random friends and have very few people on my list, would that not reduce the amount of times I've been scraped from someone else's friend list?

It's not that complicated of a concept, fewer amount of backlinks results in less invites.

Peroxide

(1 year ago)

Wrong. Usually, it will be a bot running a script that scrapes a user's friends list, and can even be programmed to scrape a random friend of their's friends list, then mass spams invites to all of those users. Or, it keeps spamming 1 users' friends list, then picks one of their friends' friends lists (if the user has more than a set number of friends, say, 50), and so on, and so on, until it is manually stopped.

Ansatsunin

(1 year ago)

You're telling me that my personal experience is wrong?

Let's try to use a bit of logic here. If I don't keep random friends and have very few people on my list, would that not reduce the amount of times I've been scraped from someone else's friend list?

It's not that complicated of a concept, fewer amount of backlinks results in less invites.

Peroxide

(1 year ago*)

"They don't have a button that says "Invite every Steam user" so they have to find you somehow."

I was just saying that assertion / assumption sounded a bit off as like I said, it's all more of a random thing. As I said, these bots can be told to go on ad nauseum, and heck they can also get lists of users to spam from groups, so having been part of a random group at some point can also be a factor. Sure, if you have fewer friends on your friendslist, you have less of a "risk" of being part of such a scrape, but think further - if you have even 1 friend on your list that has maxed out his friends at 250 (or 300 with a linked FB account), that ups the chance you'll be also handed invites exponentially. Again, it's all a bit of a luck of the draw kinda thing.

These are the same kind of scripts that can make people able to cycle their nickname really fast, assuming the nicknames of all users on your friends list. I had a CS buddy who at some point did this during gameplay; he had the names of all my friends, one by one, cycling through em - hella annoying.

On topic: ain't that about a bitch? Hookups gone. Pfff right?

Ansatsunin

(1 year ago*)

Maybe they thought it was dating group? lmao :p

IgotElbows

(1 year ago)

probably because of paypal trades and such.

BernardoOne

(1 year ago)

now I'm thinking that there should one

purplefiction

(1 year ago)

http://store.steampowered.com/online_conduct/

You will not use any material or information, including images or photographs, via Steam in any manner that infringes any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret, or other proprietary right of any party.

They could be unaware that Tony is posting the deals on CAG and think it's an insider from Amazon leaking information, otherwise referral links are not allowed on the Steam forums so they may be extending that to the groups as well.

Peroxide

(1 year ago*)

We are well aware that those deals we posted in advance are from Tony on CAG. Several times he told members to post deals everywhere so that people can see them. I follow the thread daily and Tony was always happy when someone posted the deals either on slickdeals, Neogaf or their twitter account. He even asked people to post deals on Neogaf and Slickdeals for him. btw i am an admin in the group.

xamon0288

(1 year ago)

BernardoOne (1 year ago)

I believe the problem is that they advertised several paypal traders.

If only they actually cared about that, there are people running actual shops with Steam keys and gifts now. Would be pretty hypocritical of Steam to ban this group yet ignore the countless others.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/zerial2/

http://zerial.net/technote7/board.php?board=tnshopmain&command=shop

Peroxide

(1 year ago*)

Something tells me valve does not have has many korean speaking staff checking for stuff like that, they can easily translate pages of course but they can just as easily overlook things like that.

TheRealDealReece

(1 year ago)

I don't know a single word of Korean. You'd have to be brain dead not to realize that it's a store front. He also advertises his Twitter in the top buyers of Indie Gala.

Peroxide

(1 year ago)

zerial.net, this site selling Steam games for Koreans who hasn't credit card. And Valve already knew about some sites like this.
Many Korean students and children has no credit card or paypal account. So they using unofficial site like there.

InnerPeace

(1 year ago)

frozened (1 year ago)

Man....there goes my daily game discount updates

^

any other good game discount update group?

Comandos

(1 year ago)

You can try trader's guild

FaithNoMore82

(1 year ago)

If you only understand polish ;) http://gry.you2.pl/

wojtek858

(1 year ago)

trader's guild.

notnsane

(1 year ago)

jdw4890 (1 year ago)

I was wondering the same thing... to bad I liked finding out about all the discounts

quasarballz (1 year ago)

probably because it advertised ppl that sold steamkeys and boxed on ebay

jchillin (1 year ago)

He complained to Valve about the 'imposter' group and then had his group disabled because of it.

frozened (1 year ago)

So, will we be getting another Hookups 2 group?

Over the past few days I had been contemplating creating a website that did essentially the same thing, other than the 'Hookups' to the Steam keys from different regions. This has given me a lot more incentive to do so.

Personally I'd prefer a website as you don't have to be logged into Steam to view it or maintain it. I would still have a Steam group to post announcements so no one misses any deals, I just wouldn't rely on Steam and end up in the same position as Hookups is now.

Peroxide

(1 year ago*)

Which is your group?

josgba2002

(1 year ago)

contemplating creating

Not allowed to advertise without permission, so I would have to speak to CG first before spamming any links here. Working on it right now though!

Peroxide

(1 year ago*)

You can mark it as your primary group and we would all be able to see it.

frozened

(1 year ago)

^This

Crazyfrog

(1 year ago)

Hey be patient we are coming back. :) look at my other post in this thread to find out where you can continue to find our deals.

xamon0288

(1 year ago)

Jokester32 (1 year ago)

Could it not have been them promoting stealing the keys Adobe posted for owners of one of the Photoshop programs? I remember reading an announcement claiming those were a giveaway, but it was actually for registered owners due to Adobe taking the license servers down.

I left the group upon seeing that though, so I could be wrong.

Dunther (1 year ago)

Damn.

Nathrezim (1 year ago)

Found lots of good deals via that group. It's sad they have shut it down. But there are still some more groups i know of which are posting deals pretty fast.

such as?

way2tired

(1 year ago)

links to all steam deals around the net. and some non steam deals.

it let me see all deals from sites on 1 page instead of jumping from site to site.

ThompPetty

(1 year ago)

We are not shut down yet. :) I am xamon an admin of the group.

xamon0288

(1 year ago)

Heeeeey, please... RETURN!!!!, You have the BEST GROUP!!!.

Vickmann

(1 year ago)

If you've been member of that group you would've known that for sure :) Someone already replied.

Nathrezim

(1 year ago)

kalil (1 year ago)

Now , I´m changing love steam to hate steam because not answer in support like 1 week and more and this... i hope i change it again to love not hate xd...

LodanZark (1 year ago)

at least i still have the http://isthereanydeal.com/ for leading me on sales...

Arukardo (1 year ago*)

Not the first time Steam closes a group which sells games cheaper than Steam. They closed my favorite russian resellers group too :(

xamon0288 (1 year ago)

Hey whats going on guys, I am xamon on of the admins of the group. Valve has disabled the group right now and the only thing they told us is that we violated Steam online conduct rule. They did not say anything about which rule or how we violated the rule. We are currently waiting on them to answer our ticket. Please be patient while we sort this out. In the meantime check my blog on my profile. I will be posting the same deals there as usual until the situation gets cleared.

Thanks for the heads-up xamon, I hope they answer in a timely manner.

killergp123

(1 year ago)

nice, sweetness, going thru hookups withdrawl

ThompPetty

(1 year ago)

Thanks for posting those deals Xamon.

Linkark

(1 year ago)

whiteman222 (1 year ago)

god danged, they didn't do anything wrong!

Turbanator (1 year ago)

While I've never been a member of Hookups, I was about to join their group having heard about them recently.

In the meantime, another group I'm with, Trader's Guild posts recent deals for Steam games from various sites like Amazon, GMG etc, which naturally are decent for trading. Found the Sleeping Dog's misprice from there :)

It's updated fairly regularly with announcements too, so it should be good as a go-between until the group is resurrected.

That's a totally diff. thing, lol!

Raik

(1 year ago)

LiquidGykill (1 year ago*)

Hookups is a great group, his admin OldBoy is a nice person, I bought SKYRIM for 10 bucks from someone via paypal, it was insane!, also my cousin bought 2 borderlands 2 at 15 bucks each one; so I love that group, I hope theyll be back soon, that guy put a lot of effort in that and he doesnt deserve this. Best Deal Group EVER.

I hope the admin of that group to read this so he can actually say what happened and the future of the group.

"I hope theyll be back soon, that guy put a lot of effort in that and he doesnt deserve this."

What. Do you understand, that they are doing this for money? Referrer links etc.
Somebody will say it's not true - let them delete refs and we will see, how long this group would survive. Also, as user above said - "The admin of the group has been suspended a few times for it already."

wojtek858

(1 year ago)

Hey LiquidGykill, im xamon an admin on Hookups.Valve has disabled the group right now and the only thing they told us is that we violated Steam online conduct rule. They did not say anything about which rule or how we violated the rule. We are currently waiting on them to answer our ticket. @Wojtek858 I have never received a penny from any of our post. We do this because we love finding deals and sharing with others. This is the same for me and the other admins.

xamon0288

(1 year ago)

As other user said: Spaming invites to "help" people? If that's true, that's just money farming.
Why you didn't receive a penny? Other admin is taking all the money for himself or what?
Notifying people isn't bad, but when it comes to such abuse, there is no excuse before ban.

wojtek858

(1 year ago*)

But in the future is you recive money for sharing good deals, whats the problem?, I am not an altruist man, I only need good offers!!!

Vickmann

(1 year ago)

@wojtek858 Everyone use referral links, its always a posibility in every deal group, I knew it, but that doesnt make it less valuable, I GOT SKYRIM FOR 10 FREAKING BUCKS, I dont care if he gains a dime for that or not, 10 FREAKING BUCKS!!!! FOR F*CK SAKE, I want that group back. Again I dont care if he gains or not something, I think its an effort to find those deals, especially the ones with insane prices for worldwide unlocked games.

LiquidGykill

(1 year ago*)

Hey we are still posting deals in the meantime on my blog. The link is in my profile on Steam.

xamon0288

(1 year ago)

thanx Ill chek it

LiquidGykill

(1 year ago)

Much appreciated. :)

Ingall

(1 year ago)

I am not against referrer links, they are rather good, because collecting deals will be worth spending time, but you said they didn't deserve this, while other users reported they were spaming invites just to earn more money and couple bans didn't stop admin. That's totally well deserved ban if it's true.

Also, there are dozens of deal sites, starting from subreddits, forums, etc. where you can look for deals.

wojtek858

(1 year ago)

I know those sites, they dont allow to post sellers with low quantities, no matter how good it seems to be the price.

LiquidGykill

(1 year ago)

AzatothAU (1 year ago)

Hookups has been temporarily disabled due to an investigation into breach of conduct rules. I dont think their methods are not the problem unless Steam considers it advetising, but then people have the option of joining or not. Unfortunately I think they have been suspended because of the way they dealt with a copy-cat group stealing links. While understandably frustrating, they seems to have violated some of the following it there attempt to stop it. Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others. Restrict or inhibit any other user from using and enjoying Steam services, software or other content. Harvest or otherwise collect information about others, including e-mail addresses. Create a false identity for the purpose of misleading others. Note thought that it is under investigation, not definately disabled. Mitigating circumstances may be a factor plus the group as a whole can not be held accountable. In anycase regardless of the outcome, I am sure Hookups will be back even if it has to have a new name. In the meantime, I am sure they would welcome everyone's support, maybe Steam will take notice if enough people stand up for them.

Thinking about that post encouraging us to make a case against that "copycat" group could be the real problem, it could be misinterpreted like using a group to "spread hate" and that could give them a (valid?) reason... shit that sucks. THinking about it, that could be the only valid reason to actually make acase against hookups, imagine how many people actually made a complaint against that group because that post. It was posted by the admin tho. Damn...

LiquidGykill

(1 year ago)

That is the problem I think that Steam has issues with. The thing is there is more than 1 admin plus numerous moderators not to mention over 12k members. Not that I am saying shit should come done on one guy, considering what was happening, but taking out the whole group is a bit extreme.

AzatothAU

(1 year ago)

Pysiu (1 year ago)

Just cool down, use the xamon0288 blog (by the way, thank you Xamon) untill the situation sorts itself out. You can also use isthereanydeal.com for the time being.

AFAIK Steam support could just lock/remove the post which they don`t like.

where can i find his blog?

kabic

(1 year ago)

you're welcome. The deals are still being posted on my blog until the group comes back. Take a look at my profile to find the blog.

xamon0288

(1 year ago*)

Dharok (1 year ago*)

damn, I'm gonna miss leeching on those deals. Hookups got me Hotline Miami for free last week =p

Hookups got me 4 Borderlands 2 :D Best deal I've ever snatched.

Archlion

(1 year ago)

Tigon3rd (1 year ago*)

I wouldn't have been able to give away Skyrim and Morrowind just now if it wasn't for Hookups. :( Hope it comes back, got notice about some great deals from them.

xylotism (1 year ago)

Aw man, Hookups finds the best deals!

Gipson (1 year ago)

i dont think a group can come back after being disabled. please make a new group! while the deal announcements were sweet, i miss the awesome deals from the ebay sellers and such!!!

are there any other groups like that or Trader's Guild??

Vickmann (1 year ago)

Firm this petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/199/336/242/bring-steam-group-hookups-back-make-steam-follow-their-own-rules/

I'd rather sign a petition to end pointless petitions.

If that is the true reasoning, then they deserved it. You aren't allowed to post referral links on the forums so I don't see why the groups would be any different.

Peroxide

(1 year ago*)

Abaction (1 year ago)

According to the title, I thought it was a find-your-soulmate group.

Likewise, I came on to see just how desperate some people are.

Stelio

(1 year ago)

We're pretty desperate, yeah.

Abaction

(1 year ago)

Desperate people are the backbone of the internet!

Stelio

(1 year ago)

Exactly, we have to exist.

Abaction

(1 year ago)

zanaman3000 (1 year ago)

B...But I love them...

lucidus (1 year ago)

Good riddance.

Go away you. Now that's what I call good riddance.

zeroxxx

(1 year ago)

Not happening.

lucidus

(1 year ago)

Bonder22 (1 year ago)

i always thought the selling of games via regional work-arounds was pretty sleazy, so I guess that's that. what a shame because rest of the group activity was great.

chairmankao (1 year ago)

I miss the great updates on Amazon sales. I think other groups were just copying Hookups because they've gone silent since Hookups went down.

CAG has everything you need to know. Amazon reps post over there.

lucidus

(1 year ago)

Thanks. Didn't know that. But I still would prefer not to have to look elsewhere when I check my Steam Community page almost every day and get it right there. Exceptionally convenient. I hope the good admins at Hookups can get the group back up and running.

chairmankao

(1 year ago)

CAG group makes the same announcements except the unremarkable and the paypal/ebay ones. They've set up a facebook page with the same name if you really want them, they won't be returning to steam.

lucidus

(1 year ago)

can smb give link to this group i cant find it

norfar

(1 year ago)

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147902&page=147 Request an invite in the link.

lucidus

(1 year ago)

Valve have "administratively disabled" the CAG group as well. (:

adium

(1 year ago)

TheMisterT (1 year ago*)

I just found out about this: Petition

Please, spread the word.

+1

chairmankao

(1 year ago)

Nthrax (1 year ago)

thats bullshit, hookups was amazing group ...i fuckin miss gettin to know some amazing amazon deals...

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