We are the Turkish Gamers. Like the rest of the world, playing game is not only an entertainment tool for us. It’s not only a hobby either. The games that we play are parts of us because as long as we enjoy them, we get a bound between us. Some of us prefer FPS games, they like to aim and blow things up with their lightning reflexes. Some others fall in love with adventures, solving mysterious puzzles through mind-blowing stories. Some may like the competition in leagues and try to be the best player and raise in ladders games like League of Legends, DOTA 2 or Starcraft; maybe one day, they are going to be the “best”. We all like different genres but we all fall in love with same thing: “gaming”. We like listening to the game soundtracks, reading about the lore of the worlds, following art designers’ work and getting inspired by them, learning coding and mayhap creating our games in the future.

We all love gaming in different ways and Steam is a very important part of the gaming industry. Recently Steam started to support the Turkish currency. At first, we hadn’t hoped for a big change but when we checked Steam Store on that day, we felt like someone “finally” realized the ridiculously high game prices in Turkey and that seemed like Steam was trying to make some changes. All around the country, gamers cheered about new currency system because the prices were reasonable. But it was only a one-day long happiness as on the next day, the prices changed again and became worse than before the currency change on some specific products. At this point; let me tell you about what’s minimum and average wage in Turkey.

Minimum wage in Turkey now is 890 Turkish Lira which makes, with today’s dollar exchange rate, 397USD. Let’s take a look at Civilization: Beyond Earth. Before the Turkish currency change, the product’s price was 49.99USD / 112 Turkish Lira. On the first day of the currency change, it was 70 Turkish Lira and that was a very reasonable price when you consider the minimum wage in Turkey. But on the second day, the price got ridiculously high up to 170 Turkish Lira! Boom! More than %100 raise, 75USD! Far more expensive than the normal sale price (49.99USD) for a digital copy. More expensive than the EU and USA sale prices. You can see the same price change for Borderlands Pre-Sequel too and we are sure that more will follow soon. Indie prices are fine with currency change but AAA titles rocketed high up suddenly… What is the logical reason?

Let’s have a look and say that the average wage in Turkey is 2000 Turkish Lira. Even when you calculate wages from this amount, buying more than one game in a month becomes a luxury. I am not even mentioning the computer hardware parts if you want to keep your rig updated. And not mentioning rent, food, bills and other imperative expenses for a normal human being. A father may like to buy for his son/daughter a game as a present, or a student may want to save his money for a long time waited AAA title. But with those prices, that’s impossible, and I am sorry that Turkey’s economy is not that good to support it. Maybe AAA games’ distributors in Turkey panicked and complained about the new prices on Steam? As Turkish gamers, it’s the only logical explanation for this absurd increase rate of game prices.

Countries like Russia (from G2A you can buy Civ: Beyond Earth Russian Steam Activation Key for 22USD only!), Argentina, Mexico –I am sure that there are more countries like these- get reduced price tags in Steam. What makes Turkey so special? Our country’s economy is not better than Russia, that’s a fact. Why a Turkish gamer must pay more money for a digital Steam copy than its actual Europe price? We are not pumping oil in our cars’ tanks here, we are talking about the gaming industry (World’s most expensive gas is sold in Turkey by the way. One litre is 2USD).

Another example is Riot Games. Those dudes successfully opened their Turkish Office in Istanbul and decreased their prices to Turkish Standards and now Riot Istanbul is the most profitable overseas branch of Riot Games.

We want to support gaming companies (especially indie companies need every penny they can earn), no one likes to play pirated games and nothing tastes as sweet as an original game. But let’s be realistic and consider the economy of Turkey. Turkish Lira currency swap is a big change on Steam and all we want is reasonable digital Turkish currency prices on Steam. As Turkish Gamers, we all trust in our Lord and Saviour Gaben. If he hears about this petition, we are sure that Valve will make a long waited change in the Turkish gaming market via Steam and lower the prices to a reasonable level. We don’t want something extraordinary or exceptional, we only want what other similar countries already have.

We are Gamers and we want to support game companies with buying their products. And for that, in Turkey, we need a big change. Question is: Will Valve lit the green light to Turkish Gamers?

Please support our campaign. Gamers United!! Need your aid . Thanks in advance.

LINK

Edit: Another useful THREAD. Don't miss that...

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good luck guys :)

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Thanks a lot!

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TL;DR

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Basically: "Steam prices are unreasonably high in Turkey."

9 years ago
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Import from Russia then. steamtrades.com

9 years ago
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Wow great idea but i have a better idea, moved to Mother Russia. Pfff what a logic...

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Signed. Good luck :)

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Thanks a lot!

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ins cnm ya.

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Oh I was about to create a topic for that, you're faster ^^

Yeah we seriously need some help, Ubi$oft made $59.90 cost $80 in our store.Then 2K saw that and they did the same, I'm afraid it might lead to all big companies charge us even more.

Steam made base price as $1 = 1,5 ₺ then asshole Ubi$oft made it $1 = 3₺ and this is so f**ked up.

We did helped you when you needed,signed on petitions like "Uncut" and "$1 =/= 1€".Now we need help, we as all gamers should unite against those asshole money whore companies !

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So adding your currency to the store was just to bump the prices up?BTW im from Bulgaria,some games are insanely expensive for me too.

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Here in Europe we always had this prices, is normally 1€=1$, which is big unfair, Valve needs to fix it to all Europe customers then, not only Turkey.

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suç steamin değil gençler onu söyleyelim bilmeyenler için. her şirket kendi oyunlarının fiyatını belirliyor, bir çok şirket fiyatları daha uygun hale getirmişken sadece ubisoft gibi birkaç sikko firma bize kazığı sokmuş onların da ben amk ya zamanla düzeltirler ya da vpnle alırız sıkıntı olmaz sanırım.

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Sorun zaten direkt Steam'in değil ama Steam üzerinden gerçekleşen bir sorun. Daha önce de pek çok kez yazıldı ve çizildi. Steam, oyun fiyatlandırmaları konusunda firmalara sadece tavsiyelerde bulunur. Firmalar isterlerse buna uyar veya istemezlerse kendi istedikleri fiyat etiketlerini verip geçerler. Steam, yapımcısının isteği doğrultusunda marketi üzerinden bunu yansıtır. Buradaki problem bahsettiğin "sikko" fiyatları uygulayan firmalara mail aracılığıyla ulaşmasılmasına rağmen elemanların bu konuda sorumluluk almak istememesi aksine bunu Steam'in gerçekleştirdiği gibi gösterip topu Steam'in üzerine atması. Aşağıda vereceğim mail örneği gibi onlarca mail gördüm çeşitli forumlarda:

Hi Mehmetunlust,

Further to my colleagues reply i would like to add that we appreciate you taking the time for bringing this issue to our attention.

We are aware that the recent currency conversion introduced by Steam has caused a fluctuation in the pricing for Civilization: Beyond Earth in some countries.

Our Production Team is in communication with Steam but unfortunately, at this point in time, there is nothing we can do to influence Steam pricing directly.

We apologize for the frustration that this change has caused but hope you will still enjoy colonizing your new planet.

With Regards,

David S.

2K Support

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So now games that cost 170 lira is like 60€, here in Europe we always had this prices.....

Also want to add: there are countries that pay more and are poorer than Turkey...I'm not defending what Valve and other publishers did, but trying to say that "this is normal", this was always unfair, and if fixing for Turkey, then fix it for everyone.

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This is true, however TR used to have prices in USD and some stuff was even a bit cheaper then in the US, those prices where still rather high compared to the average wages in TR and now they've upped all prices roughly 30% or so per title so when people say "fix" i'm guessing they mean at least going back to the old prices.
And just to give you an idea how bad these prices are, in Europe there's no way that I have less then 1200 euros a month to spend, however in Turkey (even in Istanbul, a rather expensive and modern place to live) most people I know earn roughly between 1500-2500 lira a month (500-800 euros) despite having really good jobs at large multinationals which means that even the working middle class cannot afford these prices while a kid in Europe easily can.

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Ok you are right about that, here in Spain we always had bad prices 1$=1€, but salary is much better than in Turkey, but still there are plenty of countries in EU2 region that have even less salary than in Turkey, like Latvia, Lithuania, or much less like Romania, etc and they are paying with €, and in EU1 and EU2 region prices are 95% of the cases same, so it would be fair at least making prices lower for these countries too. List of European countries by average wage, don't know how often they update this.

If Valve is adding new currencies they should make the prices according to salary in each country, which they never did with lots of EU2 countries that have low or very low salary. Turkey should at least keep the prices they used to have, and other countries with less salary should get cheaper prices, but this shit was always unfair, specially in and around Europe.

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Another problem is we never use €. We always using USD until TL comin this week. Thats why a lot of turkish players so offended for this situation.

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You have a really good point regarding EU2, I've always been curious why they even bothered creating it, basically all games are priced the same despite the huge income gap between most EU1/EU2 countries and only countries that aren't in the European Union (on the European continent) seem to get somewhat fair prices. (looking at you Ukraine & belarus)

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Still waiting for an explanation from 2K or Valve:(

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EU2 is being phased out. So new prices can't be entered.

Click

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o_O

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I thought I already responded 2 days ago but i guess SG timed out again while submitting my reply, In any case that does clarify a lot, thanks for linking!

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You can always buy bundles and/or trade. Other countries are suffering from the same thing, if they change your prices then they will have to change it for everyone else.

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yea the rly need to change the prices for Bulgaria...

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We always had this problem in Lithuania. The minimum salary here is 1034 litas (1.5k average). 3.45 litas = 1 euro. Because of this, almost nobody buys games.
As much as I hate to admit it, piracy kept me sane for all these years. After this Steam's summer sale I started buying bundles, because I earned a bit from a summer part-time job. Next year we'll have euroes as our official currency. 300 euro - minimum salary. Life's going be hard...

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you guys should be happy that at least Steam supports your country and currency!
nobody like us iranians...
by the way...Average salary here is about 500 dollars!be happy for your salaries too...

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Capcom and other companies have ridiculously high prices here in mexico, i dont really know what is the reason behind this but it seems like its the companies(capcom, ubisoft, etc) who take this decisions and not steam itself. I hope there is a logic and valid reason behind this but i cant really think in a valid one...

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Steam doesn't set the prices. Gabe Newell has nothing to do with your problems.

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And Reducing Prices In pakistan would be great too ...all are in US $$ so games are really expensive as exchange rates are really high

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Closed 8 years ago by Raigeki.