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Long ago EA stopped releasing their games on Steam, people feared that this meant other big companies would do the same. Nothing really came out of it until the last year or so.
Activation released Destiny 2 and COD BO4 on Battlenet. Bethesda has FO76 on their launcher, and Rage 2 will not be coming to steam, which means all future Bethesda games most likely won't either. Epic Games Store also is being very competitive and it is starting to a lot of exclusive games on it's service. Ubisoft feels like the last big publisher that hasn't gone exclusive to their launcher yet. (Which wouldn't surprise me if/when they finally do so)
So I'm curious. How do SG users feel about all this?
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Will you start buying games on places other than steam?
Now i do wonder since there is console wars, will PC have launchers wars? o.-
So far bought only from GOG on the side with Steam, but have account on UPlay/Origin/Bnet. Rather reluctant to have more and more and more of them.
EDIT: Just started RAGE and it's my kind of game, shame that RAGE 2 will be only on Bethesda launcher. Certainly won't use that one considering how there was leak of personal information of their purchasers etc lately. Kind of surprised that Id Software accepted that since they were behind first game if not wrong about that.
Epic Games was already exclusive...?
Their Unreal games are on Steam for now (they'll be removing them though).
Having everything on Steam is easier for the user but is perfectly understandable why devs are doing this, but this is only an option for the biggest publishers.
Epic Store having exclusive games? like, are they having arrangements with developers to sell their games only through their store? hell no!. Same thing goes for other exclusive games that are not released through other channels. Show me some consumer-firendly approach (before I die) and I will consider
I doubt Epic can do it. Twitch as a much larger user base (larger than Steam, actually), it is backed by one of the biggest companies on the planet, and people still often forget that it has had its own PC gaming store and client for many months now. Epic, on the other hand, has the Fortnite demographic, who have just enough pocket money for the Fortnite microtransactions and that is it.
In general though, it has been high time for years for Steam and Valve to end up on the garbage pile of history where they belong. All the things we give shit for other companies originate from them. The client is broken mess held together by prayer and duck tape. The only reason it is still there is because it is too old and too big to just disappear.
On the other hand, having a zillion separate clients is a tad tiresome. If they somehow turn the entire thing into an in-browser app, then it becomes zero hassle, but then again, I still prefer classic installers and no DRM. However, it seems to be that I am starting to be part of a minority who can still navigate a Windows folder structure and manages to find a game's EXE without a fancy client.
As much as I prefer all my games to mostly be in one place for conveniences sake (and Steam has been a good home for them given the consistently good sales), I think competition is a great thing. Any one company that are allowed to sit at the top unchallenged will grow complacent, and by having to consciously excel to stay ahead of the game, customers are provided a better service. Given how much of a head start Valve has in terms of the sheer volume of games owned on their platform (and as a side-effect, number of friends/contacts people have for idle chat purposes in the overlay), so it's unlikely Steam will be 'dethroned' by any means, but I think it will be a good thing in the end.
Besides, with the amount of time and money invested in creating high-end games, it's only natural that the invested parties don't want to pay some other company a sizeable chunk just to have their game listed. We'll likely find that only specific AAA titles will be unique to each launcher, and indie or intermediate titles would still remain widespread and available in numerous forms.
I would consider, if the games were actually good. Pretty much every EA game doesn't interest me, same with Activision/ Blizzard as I don't care much about multi-player games...but all depends on the games.
Not sure if this is the right thread to post this but it's been an interesting read and I don't want to open another thread on this subject.
Operation Tell Valve All The Things, 3.0
Bethesda released Dishonored 2 & Death of the Outsider DLC's for free ("and all you have to do to get them is log in with your Bethesda.net account from the games’ main menus" xDDDD)
Imperial Assassin's Pack is a preorder bonus for Dishonored 2
I read this as if they released those games were free. Was about to say Woah. lol xD
Interesting seeing this thread after all the recent things that happened. lol. Since Ubisoft jumped onto Epic Games store.
And with epic now adding reviews and refunds as well
Price is my biggest concern followed by refund policy. As long as those two are met then I would rather purchase from GOG. Unfortunately, most of the big games seem to be avoiding GOG so I'll probably just not buy at all. It's not like I have a shortage of games to play anyway.
as long as I can buy it on GOG i don't mind if it is not on steam
Pretty much this
GOG > Great
Steam > Ok
None of above > Nope
With Ubisoft gone Valve lost one of the biggest money makers of 2018.
I guess unless Valve start to bribe developers, I mean become competitive and gets its own exclusives we'll soon see if the "yes, you will have access to your games after Valve bankrupts" will hold true :)
Steam already has an offline mode (which they used to have, but removed at some point, until it was readded a few months ago).
So the games you already installed, you can keep playing.
Whether or not you will be able to download other games you own, from Steam servers, that's another question altogether...
What will probably happen is one of the 3:
Competition can only benefit a free market. Both short and long term. No matter the size of my Steam collection, I shall seek new platforms as viable alternatives to it. As long as you're getting the best offer for the product in question, why worry over a brand or another?
Competition is good. But exclusives are always bad.
When it comes to console exclusives which never get ported to PCs, I tend to agree. But refusing to make a free account on a digital distribution platform and play that game on PC, is puzzling to me. If Epic would offer a game I really want to play, at a considerably higher discount than Steam, I wouldn't think twice about buying it at the "lowest bidder". Yes, even if that said game is now an Epic exclusive. Flame wars between PCMR and console players have already become stale, are we gonna fight between ourselves now over Valve and other corporations?
That's the point. If you buy at the "lowest bidder", it's good. You are forcing more discounts. But if it's an epic exclusive, there won't be any "lowest bidder". It's either epic or nothing.
By "forcing more discounts", you are also forcing developers out of business. Which is great if you don't like your fave devs continuing to make games. Which, in related news, is why a lot of devs are going over to Epic. They can better afford to wait for their store to gain momentum, then to sit on Steam waiting for people to wait on a 90% off discount or a bundle in order to buy their game.
I pretty much go where bundles take me. Steam store purchases are like 1 a year (at under an euro).
If only Humble didn't offer crap MP games I had zero interest in. Then again EA and kind focus 100% on that now making their stores even less interesting to me.
Steam is probably dead. More publishers are probably gonna dump steam and when no AAA game is released on steam anymore, the customers will disappear, unless they're happy with exclusivly older games and/or indie games
I for one will celebrate if it happens, fuck steam
Edit: At the moment the only AAA publishers left on steam that I can think of is 2k and Warner Bros from the west and a bunch of japanese ones
I'm sure steam will do something to try to combat this.
They might even make games again lol
I mean they can try but when the majority of publishers have already abandoned ship I don't think there's a lot they can do. Valve games alone will not be able to support steam even if they started releasing games that aren't complete money grabs IE Artifact
unfortunately, I don't care that much.. growing up, I keep on looking for indie games or anyways whatever else I can find, I know that on Steam there are hundreds of RPGs and awesome games I have yet to play so, no problems as long as I get something new from time to time..
my last console has been the SNES, I got a PS1 from a friend but I rarely used it, most of my time spent on the PS1 was with him (we spent some years, we lived like next door literally so it was easy to see each other every hour of the day).. then, after Ultima Online, I tried a bit of World of Warcraft and kept on playing old games, GB and SNES mainly but also GBA and NES..
so I don't even know what AAA means, if I find a nice game I'm happy to play it and I don't even know apart from Squaresoft of course the game companies that make them.. I just enjoy what I find and I think I've got tons of games still to play that came out 5, 10, 15 years ago.. so that doesn't bother me at all, I can't play on console due to my chronic illnesses and I can get through a combination of joypads and such on a PC, so I'll never buy a new console (new to me means published after the PS2, I've never even seen a PS4 or some xbox or nintendo wii xD), I'm perfectly fine..I think I'll never have another client apart from Steam on my pcs
You should try using GOG then -- they have the Ultima series with hintbooks for each game; GOG offers a lot of extras (hintbook, lorebook, manuals, audio interviews, wallpapers) that you otherwise would have to pony up $$$ for.
They also do a good job in patching up old games for modern PCs.
Quite honestly, if it goes the way of every company having their own client with their own exclusives I fully expect piracy to skyrocket. I can't think of anyone who would WANT to have to install a half dozen or more different clients and launchers to be able to buy and play the games they want, so many will probably stick with their preferred platform and torrent what they can't get from it.
No platform = no achievements, no community help (if you're stuck in a game), no cloud saves, no art uploads, no exclusive scans of the manual or guidebook -- this is all painful to read!
No achievements is the only thing that I will miss.
Community help is not even needed as anyone make walkthroughs in YouTube anyways.
i'd prefer torrent-edition than anything non-steam or gog at least
other platforms exclusive-based, doing nothing good for users, only for themselves
let's make a store for every Korean with launcher on the market, yay!
off topic question about epic games.
does epic game's censor you when you type on forums and whatnot. if i say fuck will it say ****. im really getting sick of being censored on forums for adult games. if im on a forum for a game full of brutality rape and baby sacrifice i should be able to say fuck. if a game is full of tits i should be able to say tits. makes sense, right?
i only ask because if they dont censor, it will totally steer me away from steam and towards epic
Well, good news is, they don't censor.
Bad news is, they don't censor because they don't offer forums where you can write anything.
They made a few crap games and didn't want bad reviews.
Steam has a review section for every game.
Don't sell on Steam, a lot of people don't know how bad a game is because of no review.
They do however get to read a lot of paid reviews on other sites.
I'm waiting for Bungie to announce they will be selling their games exclusively on Epic as well. It's unlikely that they will stay on battlenet once their rights transfer has been completed.
I personally don't care since i don't play many AAA games anyway, mostly because most games i get from giveaways are indie, besides this could be excellent time for indies to explode on steam!
although i will play the free games epic offers but thats it
Couldn't care less about all the clients that give us "rental" versions of games.
I just wished GOG would grow to be as big as Steam is, and most developers follow suit.
Nothing beats having the games you pay for DRM free.
You forgot the Blizzard store.
Blizzard was one of the first companies that refused to sell anything on Steam.
Don't they use battlenet (Activision)?
Yes they do.
They were one of the first to have their own store (since 2009).
The Blizzard arm of the company always was Battlenet.
Activision only jumped on with Destiny 2, and now CoDBlOpsIIII, probably because they finally realized that Blizzard had the better infrastructure for online-only games.
Their other PC releases (well, the Crash Bandicoot remaster - that covers it for last year) are still on Steam.
I really hope if/when Spyro comes to PC, that it's on Steam.