Do you like For Honor?
Dont have it, and probably wont get it because of their peer to peer servers which I heard a lot of shit about.
Sad, I really liked the game and wanted to get it.
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p2p is bad. and yes, there are problems. but honestly not as bad as people think when reading about it. the game is very playable. i obviously would have prefered dedicated servers, but it's a lot of fun nonetheless.
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Well I have HORRIBLE internet so I am not sure how that would affect me or if P2P is even worse in my case, but either way I don't think I am paying $60 for it, especially since no one is sure if it will have a healthy player base later on or not.
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nobody is ever sure if a game is going to have a healthy player base later...especially when it comes to new franchises.
I personally skipped buying it, cause I am more interested in single player story based content in games...if a game has a MP feature, that's just added icing on a cake...I might fiddle with it briefly, but only briefly. and I heard the story/singleplayer campaign wasn't that great.
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Looks like typical Ubisoft game. Good core mechanics ,horrible everything else.
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i heard people say that. and i have no idea why. i played mostly conqueror so far. have 70 hours already. didn't even touch most of the other 11 heroes yet. for me this game has almost too much content. ^^
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yeah, that worries me, too. this is the most fun in a multiplayer game i had in years. would be a shame if it died quickly. but there's hope. R6:S seems to do quite well. so why shouldn't this one.
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but R6:S is FPS...I've played it during beta but for FPS, I'm sticking with Insurgency and BF.
For Honor is more comparable to Chivalry.
For Honor faces many issues atm, if these are not addressed they might end up like Nosgoth.
Nosgoth has potential before but it's issues (mainly server and matchmaking related) was not addressed so players dwindled down fast.
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R6:S is a ubisoft multiplayer p2p game. that's why i compared the two. R6:S also got a lot of hate in the beginning, and people said it would be dead soon. but it's still there, and people love it. i am sure it will also be there for the next few years. that's what i hope will also happen to For Honor.
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i think you meant p2p, right? would be funny if you hated pvp with like a million hours in csgo. ;)
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You could play against bots, but its not as fun.
I was a huge carebear, playing pvp every 6 years or so. First i remember was medal of honor allied assault, then league of legends and finally titanfall 2 (and now for honor).
I think the jump of doing so is daunting, but rewarding. Since bots eventually become too predictable.
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I dont handle criticism from strangers very well. If my friend says "For fucks sake corvo you godamn suck, you costed us the match you godamn piece of shit" I am fine. If a stranger says "you doodie head" i will cry in fetal position.
And... theres some pretty toxic people out there. I made a joke about everyone on my squad being knights but me, and asked for forgiveness, a guy on the enemy team snapped and said stuff like SHUT UP, NOBODY CARES then I WILL KILL YOU ALL, EZ GAME, JUST REFUND THE GAME and in the end YOU ARE CANCER YOUR FAMILY WILL DIE BECAUSE OF YOUR CANCER.
So yeah, strangers arent fun sometimes.
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Ah, I see.
Yes, as someone who actually has played a lot more MP than SP, I totally agree with you here.
This truly is a mixed bag of an experience.
I've encountered really, really nice people online, and the total opposite.
It's important to understand that not everything what my sound like criticism is actually criticism, instead it may be just general trash talk.
Which is fine with me, as long as it's not too much. But yeah, sometimes it is really directed at you (or any other player), and that can suck indeed. In the past I used to respond in similar fashion, I can flame and insult back, no question, especially if it's completely unjustified. Sometimes, you make mistakes (everyone does) and that means that you will lose a round or something, but that's okay. If it happens to me, I acknowledge it and move on. If someone can't accept a simple 'sorry guys' and won't let go, I'll explain calmly that I play the game the way I want to play the game, and I will not make any excuses for that, ever.
But nowadays, I often don't respond at all. I just don't care enough and don't want to waste my time with such antics.
And if anyone won't shut up, I'll mute him without any hesitation. The mute function is actually the most important part of the multiplayer mode, if we are honest ;)
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People like that are cowards. They say garbage like that because they know they have the protection of anonymity. They more than likely would never say crap like that to someone's face as it would be something that would probably get their teeth knocked out of their gob.
I wouldn't mind playing co-op games, and I'll bet you'd be a good person to play co-op games with, Corvo, so I hope that you don't let toxic turds get you down too much! :)
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Well I love to trash talk with my friends, but its completely different in my opinion. I know they are ok with it, and if they ever tell me to stop, i would. Its just strangers that I have a issue with, even if he doesnt mean harm. But i wouldnt consider the experience I described as trash talk at all. Just plain douchebaggery. Yeah, anonymity does funny things with people.
But I think I been handling those kinds of things better than I would in the past. Its not easy, but I havent given up in playing against strangers. Like you, I met some great people there, and some of them became my friends afterwards.
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Yeeeep. PvP is definitely not my thing either. I'd much rather play singleplayer and co-op.
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It looks like a lot of fun, but I'm cheap and I don't want to pay 60 dollars for it. :x
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Love the game. All the hate it get for being p2p is dumb. In 70 hours gaming I can tell lag is very rare, specially on 1x1 or 2x2. The biggest problems are connection issues on 4x4 matches (which even being p2p seems to be a ubi issue, which makes sense since you probably need to keep sending data to ubi for piracy issues and maybe something else, and due to their servers fucking up, they gave champion boost to everyone a week ago)., which hopefully will be solved eventually.
That being said, I dont feel the game is very balanced right now. I main Kensei and his heavy attacks and top finishers are very easy to parry\dodge (people can parry my top even when they are stunned and cant see the indicator). You need to feint much more than other characters need to.
But its quite a experience and I recommend to everyone.
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well, i wouldn't call it dumb. people get thrown out of matches for no apparent reason. that's something to complain about. but i agree, it's not as bad as people say. and in 1v1 and 2v2 i have absolutely no problems. the 4v4 modes are very playable as well. it's not like you disconnect every time. it happens occasionally. yesterday i played like 6 or 7 hours, and it happened to me 3 times. so that's really not that bad. :)
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Considering the amount of time spent criticizing it, its dumb. People all talk about lag switches like everyone have that, or host advantage (which is not real, since data is sent between all players, the host just manages invites and handshakes) or how the game is doomed for having it without really giving a honest try.
Getting throw out is the connection issues I mentioned, not lag. And it may very well be ubi problems. Since before I could get 6 matches in a row where people disconnected and connected all the time. That definetly seems like a server issue and not a specific player.
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exactly that. when it works, it works pretty well. no lag at all. the only problem is the disconnects, and what the server does when someone leaves.
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The game is not for me. I have been shunning away multiplayer based games for awhile. I don't have it.
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I played the Beta on PS4 together with 2 friends but the game was too MOBA for me. But at least the multiplayer worked contrary to Wildlands.
I also was really bad at the combat system... While my viking with it's giant axe clearly signals in what stance he's standing I found it really hard to tell for the swordfighters.
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reason enough to ignore ... also stumbled over this hilarious review of another game - Blackwave:
This game has dedicated servers, run by a dedicated, independent development team, free content updates and is 20 bucks.
For Honor, owned by a multibillion dollar company, uses P2P so the company can save a quick buck rather than dedicated servers, has day one DLC, year one season pass, and its 60 dollars. Yeah 2017 is the year for indie.
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reason enough to ignore ...
Valve monopoly ftw, huh.
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can't think of 1 recent Ubisoft game i'd care to have/play - using for that another DRM is pointless to me, unless
it was for an outstanding game ... which surprise/supplies is very unlikely be published by Ubisoft ever lol
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you are basically saying ubisoft can never publish a good game? that's strange view. you limit yourself and potentionally miss out on something great, just because it's cool to hate ubisoft. i will never understand this notion.
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No need to get "defensive", especially when you have no argument but your own opinion and baseless assumptions to wield
against mine. The reminder is opinions are like bum-holes, everyone has them its not up for debate.
I was obviously poking fun at Ubi yeah, because there isn't one of "their" published games i've played this century (tried maybe); beside the fact they have to sell their game on STEAM-DRM to get people to buy, as their DRM-hull comprises a very small amount of games and users (so far).
^ The greatest "joke" about it is if you buy any recent Uplay game on Steam, you're buying a game license inside a DRM, that only can be played in within another DRM -> enjoy the DRM-Inception (DRM²) - if that shit isn't hilarious and a humongous warning sign for a development in further game related restrictions, then i don't know what is.
Even Origin being likely a much bigger publisher and having more users for their DRM, has some dignity, to sell its games on their
own platform ... the ones that are avail on Steam don't require Origin DRM to be played.
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No need to get "defensive"
how exactly did i get defensive? i stated my opinion, just as you did. that's called a discussion. what is defensive about that?
especially when you have no argument but your own opinion and baseless assumptions to wield
against mine. The reminder is opinions are like bum-holes, everyone has them its not up for debate.
well, as i said, my argument is that you limit yourself to a smaller set of games. and your "reason" so far was Ubisoft. a very weak one in my opinion.
I was obviously poking fun at Ubi yeah, because there isn't one of "their" published games i've played this century (tried maybe); beside the fact they have to sell their game on STEAM-DRM to get people to buy, as their DRM-hull comprises a very small amount of games and users (so far).
do you have any numbers to back that up? just some days ago i read about half of the For Honor sales were on Uplay. don't have the source ready now, but if that's true, that's not a small amount of users. it's half of their customers. what might back me up here is the fact, that all key stores (not only the grey market ones) sell those games only for uplay. and they often have a better price than Steam. so i really doubt Ubisoft sells the most copies on Steam.
^ The greatest "joke" about it is if you buy any recent Uplay game on Steam, you're buying a game license inside a DRM, that only can be played in within another DRM -> enjoy the DRM-Inception (DRM²) - if that shit isn't hilarious and a humongous warning sign for a development in further game related restrictions, then i don't know what is.
sure, that's kind of stupid. but what are the real conseqences of that? i have to say, i buy most Uplay games on Steam, and it works pretty well. didn't work so well when Uplay was new. but now - no problems at all. you don't even see the Uplay launcher anymore. it might get ugly when either Steam or Uplay shuts down at some point in the future. but let's be honest, we are talking about a multiplayer game. it will die long before any of those titans goes down. whoever buys a server-dependant multiplayer game and thinks he will still be able to play in 20 years is kind of naive.
Even Origin being likely a much bigger publisher and having more users for their DRM, has some dignity, to sell its games on their
own platform ... the ones that are avail on Steam don't require Origin DRM to be played.
yeah, and i hate the fact that those aren't on Steam (and i'm sure many others do as well). one of the big arguments against other platforms is always, that people want everything in one client. well, Ubisoft games actually provide that. there is an extra layer of DRM in the background, but most of the time that has no practical impact anyway. i wish EA would still sell on Steam, honestly.
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how exactly did i get defensive? i stated my opinion, just as you did. that's called a discussion. what is defensive about that?
see:
'1 I love the game, so I just wanted to see how popular it is on SG.
'2 Valve monopoly ftw, huh.
'3 that's strange view. you limit yourself and potentionally miss out on something great, just because it's cool to hate ubisoft. i will never understand this notion.
The whole thread is basically geared towards protecting "your Little Honor Pony's opinion" - in condescending replies. Frankly i replied before i even read the first sentence "i love the game ..." reading only the eye-catching poll - thought it was an open "post your opinion" kind of thread. :D
do you have any numbers to back that up?
How about comparing their total equity to other publishers/platforms with DRM?
ea/origin > valve (basically with thumbs up their arse, offering games in their store, getting their cut) > ubi ... google for yourself
but what are the real conseqences of that?
Whats the consequence of anything? Everyone's got their own opinion on that ...
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ok, let's make one thing clear: the fact that i state my opinion in a discussion doesn't make me "defensive". if someone has a positive opinion about anything related to ubisoft, ea or apple, people always play the fanboy card, or say they are getting defensive. while that's actually not the case.
The whole thread is basically geared towards protecting "your Little Honor Pony's opinion" - in condescending replies. Frankly i replied before i even read the first sentence "i love the game ..." reading only the eye-catching poll - thought it was an open "post your opinion" kind of thread. :D
it is an "post your opinion" kind of thread. that's why you can post your opinion. and that's also why i can post my opinion as well. why is it ok for you to do that, but not for me? i think condemning a game for no other reason than what company published it is kind of unreasonable. and i would like to be allowed to say that. if you don't want any replies to your posts, then you're wrong here. better write a blog instead, with no comment function. ^^ and the thread actually has a very different reason. you will see later.
How about comparing their total equity to other publishers/platforms with DRM?
ea/origin > valve (basically with thumbs up their arse, offering games in their store, getting their cut) > ubi ... google for yourself
how does that make any sense? their total equity has nothing to do with how many of their total sales happen on Uplay and how many happen on Steam. you were implying that Ubisoft has very few users on Uplay and makes most of the money on Steam. i asked for a source, which you didn't deliver. your statement has nothing to do with that discussion.
Whats the consequence of anything? Everyone's got their own opinion on that ...
again - everyone can have their opinions, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss them. people always try to shut down opposing voices by saying "but that's my opinion, so you criticism is invalid!". no, it's not. so i guess you don't want to give an answer to that question. alright.
one last thing: even if we seem to disagree on certain things, please don't take it as a personal attack. i might be attacking your arguments, but not you as a person. so no harsh feelings, please. i even just whitelisted you for your good ratio. ^^
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the fact that i state my opinion in a discussion doesn't make me "defensive".
Depends how you go about it - and i damn well know how to read subliminal messages.
i think condemning a game for no other reason than what company published it is kind of unreasonable. and i would like to be allowed to say that.
Whom are you kidding? The game itself is shafted in actual user reviews and ratings ... there isn't much to talk about it to begin with - but why not try? That is why you didn't even brought up any actual arguments for the game except for subliminal personal provocations. Heck even your poll is protective towards it - let me break down its meaning: "yes" "no" "don't have it = be aware, if you don't have the game your opinion is invalid lol".
it is an "post your opinion" kind of thread. that's why you can post your opinion. and that's also why i can post my opinion as well. why is it ok for you to do that, but not for me?
Again: No need to get "defensive", especially when you have no argument but your own opinion and baseless assumptions to wield against mine. The reminder is opinions are like bum-holes, everyone has them its not up for debate.
defense = subliminal message (personal provocation instead of an actual argument): "u r too shallow to understand",
" u r anti fanboy", "u have limited view and gaems" "how could u know" "my views > ur viewz" - objective argument N/A
if you don't want any replies to your posts, then you're wrong here. better write a blog instead, with no comment function.
... how about less personal provocation and some argument?
how does that make any sense? their total equity has nothing to do with how many of their total sales happen on Uplay and how many happen on Steam. you were implying that Ubisoft has very few users on Uplay and makes most of the money on Steam. i asked for a source, which you didn't deliver. your statement has nothing to do with that discussion.
I can't pull numbers out of my ass, especially that being a figure that is purposely held in the dark of factual truth ... taking the total equity as a simple means to figure which platform will sell best (in accordance with the user base) its just logical, hell even the numbers i didn't bother to look up as there is no reliable source to be somewhat certain about it back that up.:
Steam Vs. Origin Vs. Uplay (comparison) Updated Aug 2015
Steam: concurrent = 6.6 million achieved in March 2013 / 50 million registered users
EA Origin: concurrent = 1.3 million achieved in March 2013 / Downloaded by 9.3 million
Uplay: 300,00 achieved in July 2013 / Ubisoft claims 50 million registered users.
again - everyone can have their opinions, but that doesn't mean we can't discuss them. people always try to shut down opposing voices by saying "but that's my opinion, so you criticism is invalid!". no, it's not. so i guess you don't want to give an answer to that question. alright.
Who said you can't ... next time try and make it less personal. My 3rd post here was telling you, watch
yourself bud, and 4th was clearly pointing out again what you're doing in case you're not aware, me getting personal ...
Let me repeat this - you can't "win" a discussion/argument based on opinions and personal provocations as you're trying to.
Also try to reply within 24 hours next time ... its been 48 hours, and i don't like to reheat some soup i barely care about.
please don't take it as a personal attack. i might be attacking your arguments, but not you as a person. so no harsh feelings
Yeah, no harsh feelings. :-D
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defense = subliminal message (personal provocation instead of an actual argument): "u r too shallow to understand",
" u r anti fanboy", "u have limited view and gaems" "how could u know" "my views > ur viewz" - objective argument N/A
wow, nice try. you took some nonsense arguments, formulated in a way so they sound as ridiculous as possible, and put my actual argument right in there. let`s instead see how the discussion really went:
you: i won`t look at the game because uplay.
me: you limit youself in terms of games that are available for you (<= actual argument)
and yes, it is a reasonable argument in this discussion. if you completely ignore a publisher or a platform, you will have less games available than people who don`t. you will potentially miss out. how is that not a point worth discussing?
let me just go through those nonsense real quick:
"u r too shallow to understand"
never said that." u r anti fanboy"
never said that."u have limited view and gaems"
thats kind of what i said (didn
t say anything about a limited view, though), re-formulated to ridicule it."how could u know"
is that supposed to be my question if you have a source for your claims? people say a lot on the internet, and it is just reasonable to ask for a source, if they start to debate with supposed facts. and in this case the facts are really not clear at all. you want to tell me the active user base is very small, and you try to proof that with data that is 3.5 years (!) old. not a very reliable source (anymore). a lot can happen in 3.5 years.
i found this link. it claims around 50% of the sales were on Steam. i don't say this is a reliable source either (because i have my doubts about their method, and other things in this article are false as well), but let's assume this is more or less accurate. over 400,000 people own the game on Steam, which would then mean about the same amount owns it on Uplay. that is already significantly more than the 300,000 people your article said are the total user base. this is a hint that the actual user base is a lot higher than just a few hundred thousands. unless you seriously want to suggest that everyone on UPlay bought For Honor. ;)
"my views > ur viewz"
i actually never said anything like that.objective argument N/A
lol, weren`t you saying all the time that we are discussing opinions here? and now you complain about the lack of objectivity? isn't that slightly contradictary? ;)
by the way - and i`m beginning to think i'm in a loop here - my original argument (ignoring a publisher or platform means less games to choose from) is an objective one. it is a fact. how important that is for you, and how much more significant other aspects of that publisher or platform are for your personally - that is the subjective part!
sorry, have some actual work to do now. no time to respond to the rest (for now).
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Valve monopoly ftw, huh.
you are basically saying ubisoft can never publish a good game? that's strange view. you limit yourself and potentionally miss out on something great, just because it's cool to hate ubisoft. i will never understand this notion.
= obviously implying:
defense = subliminal message (personal provocation instead of an actual argument): "u r too shallow to understand",
" u r anti fanboy", "u have limited view and gaems" "how could u know" "my views > ur viewz" - objective argument N/A
you: i won`t look at the game because uplay.
me: you limit youself in terms of games that are available for you (<= actual argument)by the way - and i`m beginning to think i'm in a loop here - my original argument (ignoring a publisher or platform means less games to choose from) is an objective one. it is a fact. how important that is for you, and how much more significant other aspects of that publisher or platform are for your personally - that is the subjective part!
Your assumptions are imagined ... "reason enough to ignore" = no purchase considered = screw it to begin with - so what, not considering a purchase doesn't mean you can't look up reviews and whatnot to build an opinion about it? All you're opinion and baseless "assumptions" provoked was how can i even have an opinion when I'm not interested ... oh how irrational lol.
i found this link. it claims around 50% of the sales were on Steam. i don't say this is a reliable source either (because i have my doubts about their method, and other things in this article are false as well), but let's assume this is correct. over 400,000 people own the game on Steam, which would then mean about the same amount owns it on Uplay. that is already significantly more than the 300,000 people your article said are the total user base. this is a hint that the actual user base is a lot higher than just a few hundred thousands. unless you seriously want to suggest that everyone on UPlay bought For Honor. ;)
Good luck finding current numbers of Uplays active user base ... the 400k users on Steam you looked up on steamdb. How about taking note of the articles date a) its from 2015 numbers from stats even older - 2013 b) the article you linked to literally writes "Over 50% of For Honor players on PC bought the game through Steam" ... can't you even figure out what that means? -> Here i'll break it down for you - having sold OVER 50% of their UPLAY product on STEAM equals Uplay still being a shit-tier DRM-platform, with the fewest users of all mainstream DRM-platforms.
Wouldn't have posted in a 4 HONOUR fanboy's thread ... if i hadn't overlooked the "I love the game" part ... clearly my mistake.
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Having a worse computer that I could run most of the new games is also limiting me, is that such a thing that needs to be discussed as well? :3
The guy only said that he basically has no opinion about the game because it has a value to it that makes uninteresting to him, in this case the DRM. Same could be said if someone said that not interested because fighting, or other games being FPS / horror / anything else.
The problem is when someone doesn't triest (and has a really flawed vision) on a game and still argues about *IT*, not when somebody simply doesn't care about. Not caring about a game, or about a group of games is not a sin that worth such wall of texts.
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Child of Light, Valiant Hearts, Grow Home/Up... maybe not super outstanding ones, but the more indie-like games of theirs perform really nicely, while their AAA-scale games most often have one or two "meh" points.
At least we can be happy that the only thing that's between us and these games is just a platform - console inclusive games generalyl are way less accessible.
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Child of Light, Valiant Hearts, Grow Home/Up...
Arguably and even in ratings those seem like good ones - maybe for a specific audience/interest but good.
Wouldn't be mad at Ubi if the games they sold on Steam DRM weren't Ubi DRM bound - a digital platform
i personally have no use for, given the games and alternatives.
only thing that's between us and these games is just a platform
Yeah installing Origin, Steam, Uplay, GOG-launcher and maybe even the dead Desura isn't really a challenge ... waste of time/attention perhaps, but thats for the person using it to decide. Best recent Ubisoft experience i had, was pirating FC3 and playing it maybe 15 min. (fun) after figuring ... this ain't the type of game I'd play. Bought FC3 years later on Steam and when trying it out almost threw a fit lol and had a revelation: "when pirating games is much more comfortable and easier, than buying them". Hardware bound hurdles/consoles however are the much bigger hurdle indeed ... (which can be eased by good friend Emulator).
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80$? Canada?
i already put 70 hours in it. well worth the money for me. :)
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Our currency is very real, even though it looks like Monopoly money, haha.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/Canadian_Frontier_Banknotes_faces.png
I'm sure I could but there are other things more important to spend cash on, like gas or groceries for now. It'll go on sale one day.
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freemium titles are usually designed to get you to pay anyway (there are exceptions, but really not that many). so your experience is worse as a non-paying player. i don't touch those games. i prefer to pay a certain amount and then just enjoy the game. i don't want to be limited to just a few heroes in LoL, for example.
and yes, it's always-on. but it's a multiplayer game. the campaign is alright, but it's really just a preparation for the core of the game, the multiplayer. i hope nobody buys the game just for the singleplayer. they will be disappointed.
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well, it's a multiplayer game. every multiplayer game needs an always-on connection. it's stupid that you have the same limitation for the campaign, yes. but it's just a small, forgettable campaign anyway. and you earn currency for the multiplayer there, so i kind of understand that a connection is needed (even though i get it generally sucks if they do that).
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I have the worst internet in existence and Ally can confirm this...
I love the game. Love the concept, the gampeplay and graphics! I've had so much fun playing. The best feeling in the world is taking on a 1v3 etc and just destroying them! Sure I've had a few disconnects but it's honestly not as bad as people make it out to be :/
The single player is awesome too! Gives you a chance to try all the classes out!
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absolutely right! :)
the single player was nice so far, but i only managed to complete the first campaign. i want to finish the others as well, but whenever i play, i feel i get more enjoyment out of the multiplayer. i played for 75 hours already, and i could only bring myself to invest 2 hours in the story so far. kind of ridiculous. xD
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I played all beta's and later on a friends account the combat is super repitive blocking seems pointless on PC especially when you are viking dual wielding you can simply just spam attacks and win every 1v1.
After 1 hour of playing in beta i figured out the start to always win move your mouse in circles and spam click i would win 90% of the win 1v1s atelast in beta right now i would win less but that's probably because more people figured out this strat.
For PC its trash maybe its good on console because its a console port.
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i highly doubt that works against any good player. also, i have never ever seen anyone play that way (probably because it doesn't work except against total noobs)...
spam clicking like you describe it doesn't even work. your attacks are telegraphed and can easily be blocked or parried. also, you must have a stamina problem shortly after starting to spam. nope, i am sure you will lose to every halfway decent player that way. :)
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Mother fuckers are actually building lag switches for this game.
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i had to look up what a lag switch is. impressive, how much time and money cheaters are willing to invest instead of just playing the game...
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Yeah, it's really insane to me. There's a specific video I saw of a guy doing it actually in For Honor. Bums me out because I love the fight mechanics in this game. I've still yet to buy it.
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well, i can't imagine many people using those lag switches. i didn't see anyone lagging/teleporting in the game in 75 hours. so i doubt it's really a big problem. :)
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I played the beta for a few hours, but the matches were already getting boring by the end. I might pick it up when it goes on sale for like 5 bucks to try the campaign, but I can't see myself getting it other than that
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I love the game, so I just wanted to see how popular it is on SG.
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