So yeah, as the topic says, I'm wondering if, when it comes to games that exists on both platforms, do Humble Bundle and/or Bundle Stars offer GOG keys? If they do how would I go about getting them?

I mean for the games they offer steam keys, if one can switch the steam key into a gog key instead by contacting support or filling in a form or something

Edit: I'm not asking if the stores are selling GOG specific keys. I'm talking about, let's say I buy a game from a humble bundle that exists on both platforms but they give me a steam key. Can I switch this steam key into a gog key.

Official response from HB:
Hi xXxX,

For some of the games sold in the Humble Store we offer the game through GOG so customers can get their DRM-Free downloads from there, most notably the Witcher series of games. For a few of the Kickstarter games we assisted with distributing, the developers chose to offer the game as a Steam key or GOG key but this was by choice of the developers for those projects. In general though since GOG's platform just houses DRM-Free downloads it's no real different than getting DRM-free downloads from the Humble Library so for the most part most developers we work with forgo adding these types of keys.

I hope that clears things up. If you have any other questions let us know.

Seems like they don't care about giving gog specific keys since drm-free is drm-free but also the obvious publisher's choice. It's quite unfortunate more publishers don't care/want to offer gog keys

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I don't think I have seen GOG keys on humble but if I remember correctly Bundle stars did give away a witcher Key that was GOG

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Oh okay, what I meant more was that usually they sell Steam keys, I was wondering if by contacting support or something on those sites If I could switch a steam key for a gog one. Going to clarify this in OP

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Renowned Explorers and Defenders Quest were both given as GOG keys in Humble bundles

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Were they GOG specific keys or did one have the option to choose between a gog or steam key?

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Renowned Explorers gave a choice in Humble Wild Frontier, IIRC DQ gave both in a weekly bundle

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Ah okay, so it's only available if the store offers it and I can't switch a steam key for a gog version if I asked?

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I don't know for sure. Contact their support, they usually respond quite quickly.

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In my experience they have been pretty slow but I guess since there's no new bundle or anything they might respond quickly. I'll try doing that.
Edit: Says it'll take 2 business days for them to respond... Guess they still are slow

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not unless the developer has provided them to humble. in which case you would be purchasing a gog key in the first place where applicable.

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Yeah... I hope gog will make some kinda partnership with humble, gog needs to expand and start offering better deals than steam in order to be really successful

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they already are. just wait for their sales.

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They have to have the keys from a specific source to be able to give them, and I don't believe they would get a bunch of GOG keys and just let them sit around for the few people that might ask for one. Their bundles offer only the type of keys that are in each bundle.

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Well can't the same be said for the steam keys? For each game sold they still have a bunch of steam keys that just sit around

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No, because they sell tens of thousands of keys for most of their bundles. Anyhow, here is your answer. If you buy a Humble Bundle that does not offer GOG keys, they are NOT available. If you don't trust our answers, contact Humble Bundle support who can tell you the same thing.

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It's not that I don't believe that answer is true I'm just saying the argument that the keys would just sit around isn't a very good one. Regardless of how many bundles or games are sold, there'll still be more keys that don't get used

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Humble tends to go DRM before GOG in most cases, especially bundles, but I can swear there are a few non-Steam games in their shop that have GOG keys.

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Sorry for not explaining it properly in the OP. What I'm trying to ask is if I can trade/switch a purchased steam key into a gog key. I'm asking specifically for their bundles since they're pretty much always either straight up downloads or steam keys

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You can't. the system doesn't work that way.

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That's very unfortunate :(
Would much rather have gog keys than steam keys for games that exist on both platforms. Is this true for bundle stars as well?

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Yes usually there is no connection between them, GOG games belong to GOG Store; Bundle Stars Store sell Steam keys, Humble bundle sell Steam keys + DRM free. Only few exception when they're connect to each others, but they'll announce it when selling, you can't suddenly asking swap keys like that.

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That's really too bad. Sent them a request to implement that feature so you can choose if you want a gog key or steam key, there shouldn't be any reason as to why they couldn't do it

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I don't think that's possible, at least at this moment. GOG games is everything GOG Store has, it is the reason this Store was born and survive. They can't simply offer that to other Store that easy.
Maybe oneday the owners of all those Stores + developers will sit down together and cooperate, but not for now. You want GOG version? You have to go to GOG Store.

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Ah, thanks for explaining it to me. I didn't realize that gog did that (since I've seen gog keys on both official sites and on G2A). I'm just hoping they do it soon, I just want to replace steam as soon as possible

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Seeing GOG keys on G2A only mean someone bought some games cheap and is now trying to sell the keys.

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But how do they get the key? I thought when purchasing it automatically locked it to your account:
I guess they're using gifting?

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Never tried it but if there's a way someone will be exploiting it.

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Isn't that the truth.

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Physical versions?

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Physical versions have gog keys? I've never seen one so I'm not sure

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Each retail PC copy of Wild Hunt will contain an additional GOG.com game code for The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. One can install and play the game without the game code and without becoming a GOG.com user.

http://en.cdprojektred.com/support/gog-com-game-code-boxed-copies-of-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/

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Well yeah, Witcher is kinda obvious but I meant for other games. On G2A there are several other games that offer gog keys and I'd be surprised if any other retail sold game would offer gog keys instead of steam ones

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Hmm, yeah that's possible

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That site is actually pretty good, it sells darkest dungeon for around 6.9 euros, it's the historically lowest price from an official store. It's even a steam key
Edit: Just saw that it's a physical copy but still

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Yeah I've been using that. Quite a few of my AAA games have been moved and I'm starting to purchase more games directly from GOG (such as Hellblade)

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Well I think this is the closest to what you want. The eligible games tend to change from time to time.

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Thanks for this link, I didn't know about that. I've been considering moving to GOG too because I started to hate Steam and its community, but from my past experiences with GOG, there's stuff I don't like of that place too. Having this possibility is nice, but right now it doesn't seem to have any out of my 1800 games available :(
(ok I have lots of indie trash, but also lots of indie goodness and AAA stuff, so I hoped to find at least a part of my games there)

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You can use Steam-GOG connect feature

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Yeah thanks, unfortunately it doesn't seem to very often that they have feature active, but it's understandable considering gog doesn't get any profit from importing your games from steam

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You could always start a petition which would ask HB to allow buyers to choose between Steam and GOG key before claiming them. Just by the numbers of people signing, you'd see if it's something people are interested or not. If there's enough people, they'd be crazy not to try and make some deals.

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Hmm, that might be a worthile idea. Have to search first if there already is such a petition

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Make a new thread if it happens, I'd rather jump on that and generate some GOG keys for some games, especially since Humble started to offer DRM-free builds for less and less games, even if they have a GOG version.

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Some stores carry GOG keys for the Witcher games, otherwise there were maybe 2 or 3 bundles at Humble that had GOG keys (one was pure GOG, like seven trillion centuries ago, when Humble was still new). But I never saw any store carrying GOG keys outside those, nor any bundle with GOG keys for a good while. GOG keys are mostly used at GOG for gifting purposes, nothing more.

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The gog bundle must've been before my time. I'm always glad to see when HB offers drm-free games but as you said, it seems to be less frequent. It's really too bad that the keys are not available elsewhere as I believe that's one of the reasons for steams success

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One of the reasons of GOG's loyal user base though, since this way they get the money themselves. It is similar to how Steam started, I just hope CD Projekt RED doesn't whore themselves out to the allure of easy piles of money like Valve did.

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True, GOG with the current system earn more profits by not selling keys elsewhere. One could however argue that by bringing more traffic to gog and by offering good deals, gog sales would go up as well but I'm not an expert in the subject so what do I know xD

One can always hope that yet another company doesn't whore themselves out but I don't really have any faith. Companies want money, whoring themselves out earns them money. As much criticism Steam gets, it still earns a fuckload of money, even after having a shitty anti-cheat system, from allowing shitty devs making steam games, from pre-order bullshit and MTs.

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Updated with response from HB

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Of course it will be like that. Assuming that Publishers and GOG agree with that method, providing GOG key mean HB also have to share the profit with GOG. Why the hell they want to do that ( •̀ω•́ )σ

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Would they though? I don't think HB shares profit with steam, only with publishers

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Because that's how it works. They almost never sell GOG game outside their Store and now you think they provide their game / their service for FREE? For OTHER Stores? Oh dear. That's the only source they do to get revenue, and now you want they starve to death? And once you get their game, remember the word "DRM free", you have no tie with their Store anymore, you can run away with your copy.

Steam, in the other hand, giving publishers the free will to generate keys, BUT in the end, customers still have to come back to Steam, using their Client, and continue using their service, make Steam bigger and bigger. That's what we call Steam-DRM. Beside that, Steam has ton of way to get money from you, even when you bought game keys outside Steam. While GOG only sell their games to get money.

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Ah okay I didn't realize that's what you meant. However, the same logic could be applied to gog, if they started having keys elsewhere, increasing peoples libraries on gog, that would also have the effect that more people use gog. I know several people who only continue using steam as their main platform simply because their library has grown so big.

To argue that steam keys bring more traffic to steam but wouldn't do the same for gog is... interesting

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Same logic can't apply to GOG, because GOG is DRM free (customers don't need to use any other service after buying the game), Steam is Steam DRM (customers still have to use Steam service, and the more customers using Steam, the more they become potential buyers for next, next, next games). GOG is still very small, and like I said, the only way they can get money is from selling games, they must be very carefully with every event they made with other stores, or they will go bankrupt in the blink of an eye (because their games can be shared unlimited, while you can't share Steam games, because of Steam DRM). You're only right about the part they want to have more loyal customers. That's why GOG connect / Galaxy client were born. They do that instead of selling their games outside their Store because of those reasons.

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You keep saying that there's no need to use any other service and I disagree. While there isn't a DRM system in place, people like having their goods in a centralized location. I do however think that you're right in that it's a too big a risk for them atm since they are still pretty small but in order to be able to compete successfully against steam in the future they're going to have to eventually start selling gog keys elsewhere.

I can understand the argument that there's going to be a few people who share the games but piracy isn't exactly new, Steam's own games aren't exactly protected against it.

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Of course on GOG there is a few other services, but they're all optional, customers only need download and play, done. Other service, cutomers can use it or not, GOG still only get benefit only from selling games.
While on Steam, people have to use Steam client in order to play games (to play a game, you need to open client, and their Store is right there, you looking at it every single day, with hundred of good deals, people will become their potential buyers no matter they want it or not). Steam get money from selling game like GOG, but they also can get money from trading cards, background, inventory items etc. There are tons of interesting things Steam made you want to spend money on. That's why they don't afraid giving publishers the ability to create keys to sell outside their Store.
About piracy, mostly Steam game need to be cracked, GOG doesn't.

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When it comes to piracy, the ones who are doing the cracking don't care, steams drm might as well have not existant. Denuvo was supposed to be unbeatable, it was beaten and now get's cracked faster and faster.

I agree that steam has a lot more going on for it in terms of money making, whereas gog is limited. The addition of allowing publishers to generate steam keys is no small part however in how steam got big and I personally believe gog is going to have to go that route eventually as well.

That they have galaxy is to serve the same function as steam's client (minus the drm) the other big difference being that you're not forced to use the client and you have complete control over the game you purchased.

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The point is that Steam games need to be cracked to share, while with GOG game, you can share with anyone you want immediately.
You still don't get the point, Steam allow publishers create keys free because they have other ways to get money. GOG doesn't. If GOG allow publishers do that, they will go bankrupt.

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But why not pirate it immediately rather than first purchase and then share?

And I did get the point, I thought I had made that clear in the last reply but apparently not. That's also why I said eventually they are going to have to do it. Once they've grown enough and are able to draw in people to gog not just for getting drm free games but for gog itself

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Steam or GOG, both need to purchase first to crack or share. but imagine how easy it is to share a GOG game? And the pirate also get totally clean setup file with full functions. Yummy!
Yeah grown enough, that's something about future, not now. They also need a ton of more services to get other source of revenue to reach the point "generate free key to sell outside store".

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And just downloading it isn't easier still? And doesn't have full functions? Yeah right...

Yes it is for the future, not now, as I've said several times already

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Re-read my comment please. And yes, all at the future, I just want to answer the question you asked before:

Would they though? I don't think HB shares profit with steam, only with publishers.

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Sharing profits infer that Steam gets a direct cut of the sales which is simply not true.

What do I need to re-read? Just downloading is still easier than purchasing it first and then sharing.

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I still think you need to invest more times into these things.
And do you get how to pirate a game? no matter Steam or GOG, the game need to be bought first (not mention the leak source, that totally different topic). But Steam games, the quality of cracked file usually isn't good, while GOG pirated games have quality same as buying.

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Obv someone has to buy it, all it takes however is one person not thousands...

Have you ever pirated? I have a lot in the past, cracked games have equal quality regardless if it's from gog (which is rarer btw to see uploaded) or from steam. I'm not aware of any cracked steam game that has "worse" quality, everything works fine, many times even multiplayer. For older games (read a lot older) the quality of cracks were bad but that was before steam even got big.

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Then once again I sorry have to say you don't have much knowledge about game crack. Cracked games are not easy to get the quality as purchasing game, not to mention that depends a lot on how skill cracker team is.

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Could you clarify what you mean with quality? Because I've never had a problem and games that I later purchased but first downloaded and played were exactly the same

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Cracked games have files were modified, make the game bypass/playable without DRM, that's why it's usually unstable/bugs. You will know this if you played those at day 1 (bugs from crack error / not mention bug from the game itself). Later many cracker team have to update crack fix files to fix this. I know this very clearly because before Steam, I was a poor kid can't afford any games but had the love to know everything about gaming, including cracked games, I was really curious why/how they did that and the reasons after all, also the quality of those.

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Ah okay I see, you meant day 1 issues. As someone who has never bothered to play a game on the day of the release (at least not very often) I have only pirated games after crackers have applied patches. But by your own admition, if one is willing to wait a little, the game will eventually be fixed and run just as well on a cracked version.

And despite your arguments, I know for a fact that gog versions of games that have steam versions as well are much rarer. Based on what little I know, the scene groups who crack games aren't doing it in order to allow other people to pirate it, it's a game for them, trying to see who is the fastest/best cracker. That it gets uploaded for others to use is just a side-effect, the main goal of the crackers is to crack a game, nothing more

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The Day 1 is just an example, I mean they usually have bugs at that time. No matter what, when the files were modified, if the cracker team is not good enough to know the results / the trap developer/DRM setup, they easily make the game broken at some point.
Yes you're so right about scene groups. they focus on speed of cracked game, unlike internal groups, who focus on quality of cracked version.
Anw we should end things here, it's a really nice converstation, glad to chat with you :P

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Haha alright, might be for the best :D

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Since GOG is mostly a reseller for games that is one of the biggest reason for not many options for keys/games outside of GOG.Though it would be in the best interest for both parties to keep games on GOG to max profits.Steam despite several legit resellers who have sales and a lot of times better ones still sell games on Steam I would suspect people would still buy on GOG and one of those reasons would be refunds.

Once they open up the floodgates to other resellers profits take a dip due to competition and more places to buy and more places to take a cut and most likely a variable one at that.I would love to see a full GOG bundle and more GOG keys outside of GOG I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

As of right now, they do have the Galaxy client and if they can grow from there who knows maybe they will be the Steam of DRM free.

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Exactly, everything you said is absolutely right!

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"no real difference from any other digital download" at least they have a client you clueless shits

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But, but DRM-free is DRM-free, why could it possibly matter?

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because management software is convenient and easier especially for people with large libraries

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I know, I was being sarcastic :D
Obv being able to collect ones game in a single client or whatever is preferable than having random download files all over the place

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Hey HB has a client!

For your phone....

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Ha yeah, the "Optional client" on your PC because you don't know there's an hidden option for this checked by default in some installers.

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bad practice. Galaxy is a decent client now.

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I don't deny, but knowing them, The "Optional client" will become mandatory for downloading & Co in several years.

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Thank you for your patience.
Our engineers are working quickly to resolve the issue.

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It states it specifically when they do so .

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Yeah that seems to be the consensus

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