So, as expected May showed a slight increase in bundled vs. unbundled (thanks again Valve). Expecting this trend to go on to June, a surprising development is shown instead:

Is this because of giveaways like that Beastiarum?
If so the problem seems far greater than I though, if it suddenly gives a full 15% drop in bundled vs. unbundled. Or is it because the Sekai Project bundle is given away en-masse and not added to the bundled list yet (I someway doubt this as it's been several days and I can't say I've seen too many tier 3's given away?).

Something to be worried about, massive exploiting of CV in progress (I know that beastiarum is)?
Shame if it is, I wanted to use that graph to see the results of Valve's change for Steamgifts. Now it seems corrupted :/

Obligatory GA: https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/7eKjz/one-finger-death-punch

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No worries because in the end Shobo will ad those on the bundled list and the CV will drop for al those who have givenaway that or those game(s). ;-)

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Still 85% for what's probably a 0.04 game, so massive profits none-the-less.

Some of these days I wonder if we need a better bundled system for cases like these, or those heavily used gamedev giveaways (of which I also gave one away, so it would affect me too).

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Or maybe we need two bundlers instead of one. One for the usual bundled games and one for bundled games like you mentioned.

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I think this issue is not really such a big issue. If you buy a game that's more than 95% off, its gonna get put into the bundled list a week later or a month later and your cv will drop so people like myself giving these games away are expecting it in due course. I am giving these games away knowing full well it is going to happen so for people CV farming it is a short term boost but it will get corrected. If you have a problem with your giveaways being low level, then just raise the cap or if you really want to restrict the games make a train or invite only gib. There are ways around this issue :)

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Something to be worried about, massive exploiting of CV in progress ?

Worring implies that something can be done about it. I would rather describe it as something to be annoyed about :(

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Guess "annoyed" would be the right word. Just wanted to know how Valve's policy affected the site and then suddenly see a 15% drop. Can't be Steam Store purchases, no way.

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I concur with your theory that it's most likely all those terrible games from those russian sites that cost 2 cents and still count as non-bundled.

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Well, the bundled rule for massive discounts should still apply for sites like, well, the one where beastarium comes from. It's just the delay that comes with these sort of things.

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we need another bundler. poor shobo doing it all alone.... =(

edit: also part of the problem might be that support doesn't seem to be forwarding bundle request support tickets to shobo.. my last couple of requests are still ignored anyways.

edit2: to clarify, my last report from 3weeks ago i closed and re-created it yesterday. my first report i had chained a comment to it and i think that's why it may of been overlooked. =)

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I don't think these drops are so common to happen every bundle, so it's probably not just that.
But yeah, I would agree never-the-less.

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Why exactly do we care about this again?

6 years ago
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Fairness regarding levels and CV, which are both used as criteria for better GAs.

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Cause I already do min lvl 2+ giveaways to weed out the many rulebreakers, would have to upscale even more, which is upsetting people who do give away properly.

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cause about 10% of my current level is incorrect and i'm about to hit level 10 prematurely because of it.

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Valve. Valve. And... Valve

As a brazilian i think i can speak for most brazilians on steam- games are expensive here; Yeah i know about the whole pricing we get better then other countries- but relative to our average income its still high. Steam gets some leeway as a digital only product that the government can't enforce upon what once was(and probably still is) the highest tax in the world. Its insane.
And we're on a really bad recession/crysis for a couple of years now. Wich is sad- we were riding the tide of fastest growing countries in the world but the tide got too high, politicians too dumb(or greedy)... and now we're flat in the water.

This leaves us locked to the stores that offer that adjust pricing- Steam and Nuuvem.
With steams new rule the source of my unbundled GAs has run dry. Here i had in plans buying 2 or 3 of some of the nicest ganes in good deals on the next sale to share here. Can't.

I always avoided region locked keys like plague- but it seens they will be the only unbundled GAs for me.
Wich is stupid.
I love how everytime i follow someones links to their profile i see the whole world. Theres just 1 brazilian in my entire WL for example. So not sure if id go with region-locked gifting.

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Forgive me for being ignorant but when you buy keys are they ROW? Cause I've just been buying everything from the humble store for unbundled GA's to bypass steams shitty update

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Nuuvem is all region locked now im afraid. I may end up buying gifts there but i really didn't want to- come on, i don't want to lock that many people out. Plus ive found more leechers then id like in some brazilians sg groups then id like, another reason to feel less willing to stick with region-locked keys. Chances are i was invited to too open groups (easy entry and both were new) but still, raised flags for me. I know some fellow brazilians like me that are good and sharing but they're fewer compared to a ganeration of particular moba-cs interest that is huge here and for some reason unwilling to spend cash outside few main titles.

Humble as far as i know all keys are region free, but for me its only for bundles- their prices aren't adjusted for our reality so its far more expensive for me. To paint a more reasonable picture the prices that sound right for us are in numbers very close to the dollar values or at least double (a 5 dollar product would feel right as 10, 12 reais top). The current value of reais(brl) however is way lower- 1 dollar= 3.30 reais. The problem here is the crysis so pretty much everyone isn't getting paid as they were years ago.

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Bumpy :3

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