i don't see any problems with creating hrk account :O there's nothing in faq about gamersgate/hrk/indiegala gift links - only info about humble
Is it possible to send a Steam, or Humble Bundle gift link to my winner through the site?
Yes, you can follow the instructions for using a Steam key as described above, but enter a gift link rather than a Steam key. The gift link must be entered in one of the below formats.
https://store.steampowered.com/account/ackgift/XXX
https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=XXX
https://www.humblebundle.com/?gift=XXX
so i think its not against the rules. But if u don't want to create hrk account - just tell about it in giveaway comments section and wait for ga-creator reply.
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i don't remember name of software, but there were many giveaways with non-steam keys for it. And for getting steam key winner must register with no-steam key on software site. Those giveaways were allowed.
IG Giftlinks don't require you to create an account there
i believe u need account (they made some changes few months ago)
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Registering at a store is none of them, not even promotional (unless you purposefully accept their newsletters).
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It is no different than gleam giveaways that have become against the rules. I'd say its as bad as any of their examples:
"Such actions include but are not limited to clicking a referral link, liking a Facebook page, following a Twitter account, joining a Steam group, completing a survey, or making a donation"
By forcing the winner to register they are forcing them to enter an agreement they might not wish to enter. Depending on how its done, personal information such as email and IP could be at risk as well.
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That's a completely invalid comparison point. Gleam giveaways which don't require you connecting social accounts or providing details are still allowed, which can be seen in the fact that we can still post IndieGala promotions, which require IndieGala accounts to claim, and Humble Store promotions, which require Humble accounts to claim, and AlienwareArena promotions- well, you get the idea.
That said, you're confusing rules about general site posts with rules about SteamGift giveaways, and rules about entering a giveaway, with rules about claiming a giveaway. You cannot ask users to perform any special action in order for their entry to be considered valid, such as liking a Facebook page, or following a Twitter account. is the line you likely meant to quote.
As far as that goes, I don't believe an official policy was ever clearly listed on what exactly constitutes a "special action" for giveaways, though I do know that GamersGate links (which require an account and, like certain Humble links, can contain both a DRM-Free version and a Steam Key) have been intentionally given out so as to give the winner the extra freebie. No doubt some GA creators have offered Groupees gifts, as well, as they can have a similar set up.
Of course, Gamersgate is (and Groupees technically still is) a reputable site, so we can't really compare that to this situation, either, even if we ignore the fact that there's a clear purpose behind that kind of gifting (which the current circumstance doesn't have).
Somewhat similarly, since the current Steam store region locking began, the practice of transferring Steam wallet funds (eg, through CS:GO keys or the like) has become a recognized method of letting locked regions purchase a won game for themselves. That is, in itself, a special action, but one that's inherently appreciable [and which offers no feasible alternatives for delivery, in situations where such an action is required].
Anyway, in short, it feels intuitive that such sign-ups wouldn't be allowed, but there's nothing in the rules explicitly prohibiting it, and there are circumstances wherein such offerings are potentially beneficial to the winner (and thus shouldn't be prohibited outright, though it seems reasonable that the winner should have the option to contact the GA creator to insist on a different delivery method, where such is mechanically possible or where the action required is itself dubious or done through a site with dubious reputation).
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There is no reason you would need an hrk account, they could get just get a steam key, you should ask for it and if he refuses, then you are in your right to mark it as not received after 7 days.
If we had to sign up for a dozen of sites just to get our gifts, not how the site works.
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This site is called Steamgifts
Just request for a steam key.
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I don't see why this would be necessary to receive a gift but I also have a HRK account and can confirm that I didn't have any problems with them to this day.
I still would ask the giveaway creator why he wants you to create an account.
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A winner with a gift link can handle support problems like revoked keys etc directly with HRK while with a key it's the job of the GA maker. This might be the biggest argument for them.
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Good point, their support isn't the best so I see why the creator would want the winner to have to work with them if needed.
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sadly hrk offers somwtimes dupe keys and their support sometimes helps and sometimes is like shit... so cause the GA creator uses this shady market, the winner has to argue with the support? that would be an Argument against hrk links ^^
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Yes of course, I'm just imagining that the giveaway creator doesn't care if the winner has problems or not. But I'm probably too pessimistic ^^
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Truth. The reason G2A/HRK GA creators get a pass from all the negativity surrounding the G2A network is because it's understood that they are the ones taking on the risk and stress and, as such, it's nothing detrimental to the functioning of SG for them to utilize such sites. (Also, the fact that it's typically impossible to determine a key's origin no doubt helps a lot. :P) However, If they're passing that negativity on to others, then they risk being considered in the same light as those sites.
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I've had an HRK account for about 2 years I think, and the crappy "security" measures they took like a year ago prevent me from logging in using my e-mail and password. Luckily I had linked my Steam account and I'm still able to access my account via Steam login, but still that's not a place where I'd want to create a new account right now...
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I think I had that problem too but I just resetted my password and it worked fine again. But I totally understand why there are people who don't want to create an account on that site.
I have a seperate email for that stuff but not everyone does.
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I can't be sure but it might be something like HRK free game (Two Worlds for example) that the giveaway creator doesn't actually has a key for but if someone creates an account on HRK they can claim such a key for themselves? As I said, I don't know but it seems a bit like that to me.
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This is most likely a ref link of some sort, if you don't receive the game just mark it as not received. Don't click on any links whatever they may be.
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the winner is supposed to give you the gift directly to you (steam gift, key, HB link), or else people could start demanding others to join groups or registering in sites.
but unless a support member clears this out i suppose it's a matter of how much you want your win (create a new email and register at hrk).
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Create a support ticket and just follow on staff's decision.
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i don't see a problem with it. isn't any different than giving a humble key as far as i can tell
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One does not need to create an account in case of getting a Humble link.
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Normaly it should be no problem to talk with the other one to solve such things :o)
Write the GA creator that you don't want reg. at HRK and prefer to recieve the key direct from him.
In 99% of the cases should solve that your "problem".
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Um, are you saying that you won a game on here, or won a game on HRK? If you're talking about HRK, then I don't see why it'd be against any kind of rules. If you got a key from the HRK drop key, then they don't directly give you a Steam key, they instead give you some stupid key that you then register on their website, which then gives a Steam key.
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Well, there is still the Option to send the Gift through Mail and this is for sure what the GA Creator thought. At HRK you only need to enter the email Adress of the Person you want to gift a Game, very simple. There you only need then to unveil your Key, but if you deny the Creator could also might request for a new Winner. (Just sayin') No idea how the Support here is going to handle this. The Creator probably would need to Contact the HRK Support to roll it back, but i doubt it gonna be fast solved.
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It's been confirmed that they get their keys from G2A, so no, you don't have to nor should you.
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All giveaways should be for Steam redeemable gifts or Steam redeemable keys.
HRK-redeemable key that results in Steam-redeemable one does not fall under this rule. To me this is invalid, and you should ask creator for direct Steam key instead. Of course you can be nice and do as you're told, but not required to.
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The creator just could make a(nother) free HRK account and claim the HRK key to give out Steam one :3
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I solved the problem with the creator personaly. He wasn't aware of the the problem. I think there should be a clarification in the rules regarding cases like this.
Thanks for all your help.
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From my understanding, providing a link like this is not breaking any rule.
However, the winner should not be forced to register to a third-party website to claim their game, and the giveaway creator must be ready to provide the key directly to the winner if asked.
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I just won a game and received a mail, that I need to register on https://www.hrkgame.com/ to receive the gift. Isn't this against the rules? I'm not quite sure.
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