Force me
Never said to stop playing them. Party Hard is, indeed, on my wishlist ;/
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I agree with the spam but to be fair a lot of the topics have had genuine discussion in them. If they were all obvious troll topics like the Zelda one I'd agree but I guess this is a gaming topic about morality in games. Perhaps not the right thread of his to bring up spam as its a pretty good topic.
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Not like they're getting ad pay for clickbaiting people.
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Thing is that actually good threads gets burred by his/her/whatever this creature is shitthreads. Even though they dont break any site rules it's plainly annoying and made obviously just to troll the site and it;s users.
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Pot kettle black. I've seen you make threads I'd call the same, but I never reported it, you were free to post as much as you wanted.
This thread is asking questions about the morality in video games, I don't see a problem or spam with that? The Zelda one yeah, that was bad, since then the few I've seen has promoted decent debate and conversation.
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And i've seen threads made by you which also could be called that but it's your own business and besides the point.
The thing is how frequently one does make them. After certain point you can make threads about point of whole existence of universe but if you will shit out 2 every day...they become just a shitposting spam dressed as something meaningful.
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Hey if you are looking for an argument or to trade insults, not interested.
The guy has made a valid discussion topic, telling him to "fuck off" is not constructive for the community you are trying to protect. We need more discussion, not less.
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+1 to that.
To be fair, a lot of us have made shitty threads once in a while, but that doesn't mean that we should just completely stop after one mistake.
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I agree with you on the earlier ones, a couple though are valid topics!
If he likes seeing the +99 then fair enough, other users like to see the +99 by posting sarcastic calling out threads almost weekly but no one says a thing. Its not like he has 24,000 comments.
I will admit I haven't followed his topics to completion, just commented on discussions I've found interesting. If his intention is trolling, he's failing tbh as its actually stimulating decent discussion and meaningful interaction between users. I just don't like the idea that we should shut down discussion creators, its becoming "bad" to start a topic.
Point taken though, agreed just perhaps not on this specific topic.
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Wow, he can read minds! It seems a lot of people here have a great paranormal potential to be explored.
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I'd totally agree with you when the user make threads earlier, however I feel like lately... They've been "good" and entertaining. Sure some have still been questionable like the Zelda troll one, yet I still find myself captivated by the conversation within the thread itself. Sure her intentions are not pure but it actually forms the community to... Talk and enjoy each others company again.
I totally agree with the amount in a short amount of time, I mean I'm guilty of that also so I can't comment on it. But she initiates conversation and thats something that spammers and trollers haven't been doing lately. In the past few days we have had a handful of trollers that troll and get a response, nonetheless with the OP they have trolled and got users to come around and converse in great depth. Sure some have ended poorly but that is just what happens when you put humans behind a computer screen, dignity goes out the window and the worst of the worst comes around.
Either way, like this one I will lurk away and read the conversation it starts!
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His/her trollism is in decandence. Is the third nicnkanme, the first one was pure trollism, the second one was a mixture, and this one it feels the urge of be a "productive member with some funny and harmless trollism". I'm wondering what will be the fourth.
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To be fair, he has 940 comments in 2 years. Its hardly spam levels of comments when people who claim to never start threads in the same timescale have 16,000+.
Don't believe the hype, possibly originally a troll with the Zelda type threads. As I said above, its not that I don't think his intention is trolling, just this thread is hardly harmfully, its actually pretty good for discussion purposes.
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It's really just the second nickname... the first one was a suggestion from an ex-boyfriend about 4 years ago, still when SG had a completely different layout. We broke up a couple of years ago, but I just decided to change it recently.
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Party Hard - isn't it more mean to disturb neighbours with loud music? They should see it coming ;)
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What about Just Cause? I mean, the game doesn't FORCE you to be the world's biggest jerk, but you can usually get that title in the first minute of gameplay.
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The first reply to this wasn't Rockstar's Manhunt ?
I'm disappointed.
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DontBeSilly
Can you fuck off with these stupid threads already?
Yes, I can. But I won't
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I wonder how many more user reports it will take for support to take any action.
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Over 9000!
But in all seriousness I don't think there's anything they can do. Putting aside how annoying he/she/it is the shitposting itself is not breaking any rules and ostracism isn't really a valid practise. I don't follow these threads so maybe there's something they could use from it's replies but that's all I can see working.
Not that I'd shed any tears to see it gone.
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The Postal series. That is their entire point.
Hatred, which sweated blood to be as edgy as the Postal series but in the end had to resort to controversy to make even a few people try to play it. (It is incredibly repetitive and boring for a civilian-murderer simulator.)
Neighbours from Hell.
Manhunt. 'Nuff said.
Bad Rats. The point, what little there is, is to torture a captured and defenceless cat in various sadistic ways.
Edna & Harvey 2: Harvey's New Eyes. To illustrate: you spend the first third of the game devising various ways of murdering a bunch of clueless children in an orphanage in order to get out of there. By the way, it is not age-restricted…
Most modern FPS games like to put you in the role of the invader who has the manpower, technological, and general advantage against the enemies in every regard; because, as we all know, nothing is more heroic than using a remote-controlled drone to bomb the shit out of some people dressed in rags and using 40-year old ex-Soviet weapons.
I am yet to play it, but isn't the point of Saint's Row 3 and 4 to be as big of a jerkwad as possible?
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Postal? Puhleaze.
The Mario Bros series are clearly the meanest games ever created.
You murder innocent turtles who are just calmly walking back and forth, not bothering anyone; you murder turtles by throwing the corpses of their friends at them; you even murder a creature that is ostensibly your only friend, by using them as a springboard to get past a cliff. All this to kidnap a princess who has run away with her lover, because you're a raging bigot who can't tolerate their interspecies romance. Hell, you even cannibalize the heads of the mushroom people that the princess rules over, because you dehumanize them and feel their only worth is in giving you your drug fix.
I mean, the series is basically the most checkbox approach to basing a game around the seven deadly sins as you're going to ever come across: Pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, and wrath are all offered in healthy measure, and the entire game is based around discovering warp pipes in an attempt to master the final sin of sloth.
These games are seriously the most twisted gaming offering we've yet come across, and hopefully ever will.
Saint's Row
That was more a facet of the earlier Saint's Row's games, which stuck far closer to the GTA story formula. 3 and 4 are more based around happy psychosis. You're controlling and vindictive- you take what you want, and you don't tolerate anyone antagonizing you- but most of your mindset is based around having a good time and not having any grasp of consequences. By comparison, the GTA games have always been far, far more jerkwady, with you typically playing what's essentially a power-hungry serial killer.
If you're familiar enough with DC comics, think of SR3/4 as a representation of Harley Quinn's personality, while GTA is more Deathstroke's personality.
Manhunt. 'Nuff said.
Bad Rats. The point, what little there is, is to torture a captured and defenceless cat in various sadistic ways.
Most modern FPS games like to put you in the role of the invader who has the manpower, technological, and general advantage against the enemies in every regard; because, as we all know, nothing is more heroic than using a remote-controlled drone to bomb the shit out of some people dressed in rags and using 40-year old ex-Soviet weapons.
That said, pretty hard to argue these examples of yours as not being perverse indulgences in especially twisted mindsets.
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GTA games have always been far, far more jerkwady, with you typically playing what's essentially a power-hungry serial killer.
At least for the latest titles (IV & V) I have to disagree with you. Niko Bellic is a troubled man but at no point did I have the impression that he's enjoying what he's doing. He just reacts to what the world throws at him.
Michael is an old school crook but he does not seem to enjoy killing and if that thing with the russian mobsters house had not happened he would have most likely stayed retired. Franklin is your typical gangbanger but I certainly wouldn't describe him as a power-hungry serial killer neither. And Trevor... while the psychopath / serial killer label certainly fits here I think his motivations are a little more interesting than power.
But I have to admit this description in not based on comparison to Saints Row (I haven't played enough SR yet to do that properly) but based on it's own.
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I think the problem with GTA is, even if its not promoted through story, you can be as big of a dick as you want. Go run over the old lady or kids. Go perform a "rampage" event killing people for points. Go get 5 stars and see how long you can survive.
The characters may in the story be morally grey(even Michael robs banks) the player controlling him can be as dark as they want.
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Agreed. Funny thing is I usually only play like that in GTA at the end of a session (or) when I don't intend to save.
Sure, it is fun going 120 miles per hour through a pedestrian zone and have bodies ragdolling all over the place but for me it's even more fun speeding through the same pedestrian zone without hitting anyone with people cussing at me left and right and at the end doing a powerslide parking my car between 2 narrowly parked cars without touching either of them :D
But in a way I don't consider me messing around as canon for the story.
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You know what, me too! Since GTA 1 tbh the "get 5 stars survive longest" game has been one of my favourites, alongside "drive around obeying the law and stopping at stop signs". However its always when I'm done with the story for the day.
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Tyranny! You play an evil officer.
Dungeon Keeper and its clones. Slap a few minions to brighten your day :-).
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The Overlord games. Nothing hardcore like Postal or Manhunt though.
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Postal 2 but damn i love this game its so much fun to hit some heads with a shovel
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I can't even play as a mean character in RPGs. I tried, but after a few quests, I started drifting back to the "good side".
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Me all over!
I even gear myself up and start taking evil actions, but i end up putting it right in the end. Theres not enough subtle evil in games, its very black and white.
Save the village or save the village by killing, raping and burning the village to the ground and then capturing the evil doer as one of your minions.
I'd like to see subtle bad choices which weren't so inherently evil! So save the village or save the village but become ruler whilst doing so or save the village by making them give you taxes. Still an evil outcome but not so psychopathically evil.
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Wow the description you made makes this game sound pretty epic while the reviews makes it sound completely opposite, sad :/
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I had it. Was it removed from Steam?
Edit: Oh, I think I confused it with CrimeCraft: Gang Wars. It's still on my account.
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Tecmo's Deception: Invitation to Darkness - An old psx RPG game. You have to build traps in a mansion to kill or capture people and resurrect Satan.
Carmageddon - Never played this one but I think you earned points and bonuses by running over pedestrians.
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Bully - Game forces you to bully people and beat them up.
It forces you? You're not supposed to bully people. It's up to you. You are supposed to teach bullies a lesson and unite the whole school. Jimmy Hopkins is a really good guy, not a degenerate bully. -_- He hates bullies. You can see for yourself if you ever decide to play it and finish it.
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Though he's aggressive and quick to fight, he's not truly malicious. As he states early on in the game, "I only give people what they have coming to them."
"I never saw him as being that level of degenerate...I saw him as a bad teen, because he comes from a tough home, who could go either direction. He's not going to be a carjacker. He's too white collar for that already. He's at a shit private school, but he's going to end up being really happy because he's at the worst bit of his life, or being a sort of messed up white collar doofus. He was an unpleasant soul, but he had a heart. To some extent you could say the same was true of [Grand Theft Auto 4's] Niko in a bizarre way. But [Jimmy's] not trying to burn down the school, he's more trying to stand up to injustice."
— Dan Houser
You got your answer. :B
He hates bullies and cliques. They're all trying to make life hard for the others and he's trying to stop it! As said above, he only beats people that deserve to be beaten, in order to give them a lesson and make them stop their wrongdoing. He went through a tough childhood and that made him aggressive, but you won't see him beating weak boys or girls, only bullies or people trying to beat him.
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And Tim Schafer thinks to this very day the controlls of the original Grim Fandango are good. Just because a developer sees something a certain way doesn't necessarily make it true. It may have been their intent when creating the character but that doesn't keep other people from perceiving it differently. And neither of them is right or wrong.
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I actually even agree with him that I found Jimmy quite likeable (not sure about the Bully part because it's been so long ago).
I just disagree with his style of argumentation / rhetoric. The thing with quoting the dev and saying "Here you have your answer." is what we call a "Totschläger-Argument" in german.
But judging from previous discussions I know Bully is a game he's very passionate about so it might be hard for him to view it from different vantage points.
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I'm merely saying this as an added proof, since my words didn't seem enough.
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It is impossible by definition to proof perceptions but it certainly is relevant as another opinion on Jimmy's character.
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But if, even the producer, says that Jimmy is a good guy, then it makes it even more obvious that he's a good guy. And I didn't really need to use his words to prove it. I believe it's pretty obvious that Jimmy is a good guy and only beats bullies. You won't see him bullying the weak. You can make him do so, but that's not compulsory, so it's your fault if you make him do so, not his (I mean that, if he bullies anyone, you're the one that made him do this optional thing). Now, anyone can believe anything about a game character. You can even make him kiss boys, but Jimmy being gay wasn't the intention of the dev - it's just optional and you can do that if that's what you like. In conclusion, the game tells you to beat the bullies, not bully the weak, but you are free to do whatever you want optionally. But you can't really say that Bully is a game telling you to do mean things. Jimmy is a hero. ;_;
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But if, even the producer, says that Jimmy is a good guy, then it makes it even more obvious that he's a good guy.
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I mean that it's something to back my claims, prove that I'm not talking nonsense. xD That's what I meant. But I don't need this proof. I have played this game a hell lot of times (not only on steam, but with a physical copy too) and I can never even think that Jimmy Hopkins could be considered a bad person. You can only consider him a bad person if you optionally bully the weak kids, but that's not what the game tells you to do. I've never seen Jimmy beat or bully someone that didn't deserve to get beaten or bullied, so yeah, that should be enough proof for you that the game isn't mean.
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Dota 2, really. -.-
It's there to give your opponents and teammates misery alike.
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Payday - robbing a bank, taking hostages, killing hostages
Wizardry IV - you're literally the evil big-bad, and you kill harmless adventurers
Mortal Kombat - between fatalities and brutalities, ouch
Thief - because stealing is cool
Worms - how many ways can you blow up your friends?
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All these multiplayer survival games like DayZ, Rust, Ark or Hurtworld, the main focus is to grief and destroy everyone else and what they have build and accomplished, to the point where you are the only one left in the server, then you start over.
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Plague Inc. Every dead body is just a statistic on your path to wiping out humanity.
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Hatred
Postal
Postal 2
Postal 3
Postal Redux
GTA (Series)
Goat Simulator
Oh...Sir!! The Insult Simulator
Spec Ops: The Line
Literally every shooter ever (killing is mean)
Literally every war game ever (killing is still mean)
Civilization series (Genocide is mean)
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For example, Party Hard and The Dweller
There are some games I don't really see their point. I understand it may be fun for some people, but doing mean things is some kind of depressing, since world is already so full of mean stuff...
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