i think you are stuck.
but pretty vague on this as well....
what did Dr. Google say?
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Without making it too technical, CPUs are mounted on "sockets": you need a motherboard with the correct one to be able to use a CPU.
Other than that, Intel sometimes makes things harder, by making different revisions of sockets which are physically identical, but electrically different.
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Intel and AMD use different socket types. If you already have the motherboard look up what socket type it has and search for cpu's that fit it. New socket types come out every few years so if you have an older motherboard you may not be able to use the newest cpu regardless if it is the same brand as your old cpu.
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I see. Im currently suing FX6300 but it's a little bit lackluster for my GPU . I was thinking to upgrade but i guess my only other option is 8300 then which is not better by that much.
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Unfortunately AM3 is pretty much a dead socket and your upgrade path is kinda non-existent. Fortunately Zen is coming in January on AM4. Wooooooooooooooooooooooo.
But yes, you will need a new motherboard to do a worthwhile upgrade :)
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Yeah, not a chance. I just had this issue myself-- fried my mobo, but I couldn't get a proper replacement because as Mike90 said, Intel loves to mix up the electrics every model or so.
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Intel and AMD do not use the same socket, but that is not all, there are different sockets for different CPUs within the same manufacturer. As new CPUs are designed, they change size which means you need a different size socket and the number of pins and pin orientation on the CPU will also change.
Here is a list of sockets by year. An example would be if you buy a new Intel 6600k, you can see here and here that they list the socket as LGA 1151. That means when you buy a motherboard you would need to buy one with an LGA 1151. If you already have a motherboard that is a socket LGA 1151 and you want to upgrade to a better CPU, just make sure the new one is also LGA 1151.
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Thanks it seems im in relative luck and both higher AMD versions , 8300 and 8350 uses same AM3+ socket as my 6300 does.
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Also, I don't think all AM3+ CPUs will work in your motherboard. The chipset is also a factor. I think certain chipsets can only work with certain CPUs and you have to check and see if the CPU is supported in you motherboard.
I think this is currently the fastest AM3+ CPU, but I don't know if you can use it. I think you need to find out what motherboard is in your computer and then go the motherboard manufacturers website and they should list what CPUs you can use in it.
I haven't purchased anything from AMD in a while so I don't know much about their processors.
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Your FX-6300 is only a 95w CPU, that FX-9590 I linked above is 220w even though they are both socket AM3+. I don't know if AMD made CPUs with that high of a wattage when your motherboard was manufactured so it probably won't be able to support it. You need to look up your specific motherboard and see what is compatible.
Edit: The 8370 is 125w. That is closer to what you have, but that doesn't meant it will work, you still have to check for compatibility because I don't think wattage is the only factor.
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9590 is too expensive and unnecessary for me really. Even if i could fit it on my motherboard. I would most likely need new PSU and then my GTX970 would be the one part which is lackluster all thesudden :D
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I was mainly just pointing out that there is a broad selection of AM3+ CPUs, but that you may not be able to run them all. In my previous comment I made it sound like you can use any CPU as long at it uses the same socket, but then I remembered that is not always the case and wanted to clear it up so you don't buy something based off what I said and then find out that it doesn't work.
Your best bet is probably to try and find a list of all the CPUs that your motherboard supports and then do a price vs performance comparison on those and see if it is worth it for you to upgrade. That will save you time rather than looking at CPUs you may not be able to use.
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I would not recommand an update to 8300. It has 2 cores more but lower base clock. So even if you have a software that is written good enough to use all cores, it is only 20% faster. The 8350 - in best case - is 40% faster, but I guess in most games your will not notice any difference.
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+1, clock speed is almost always more important with gaming than the number of cores, especially once you get past 4 cores.
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So what would you recommend then? From AMD selection.
I have GTX970 ,16GB RAM and as long as game engine utilizes GPU well i have no problems playing any new game on high/ultra but once engine tries to draw resources from CPU i cant sustain stable 60 on high/ultra anymore. Games like Witcher 3 runs like a charm while something like Dark Souls 3 struggles because of the CPU.
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Quite honestly, the difference between AMD and Intel is night and day at the moment.
Unless money is tight, for a gaming PC, I'd go with an Intel chip every time, even if that means forking out for a new mobo...
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Nothing, really. AMD has prolonged the launch of their new architecture so many times, that now the old Bulldozer/Pilediver chips are just not worth it. You are better off if you save up some more money and buy a brand new motherboard+CPU. If you don't want to give Intel money, you can wait until Zen is released, so far what was leaked by AMD shows that it should be able to match current-generation Intels in performance and it uses a similar architecture, so no more -50 to -60% single-threaded performance compared to Intel.
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Yeah but that will present me with number of challenges . Choosing good moyherbord,one who fits everything and fits in my case, disconnectinlg and reconnecting all parts without damaging anything , and such. Im not completely unexperienced in this but havent ever assembled whole pc by myself .
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That is just a fidgety job, but not difficult. I am clumsy. Very clumsy. But I manage to build PCs nonetheless. And they don't tend to burn down. :)
As for choosing parts, that can be a good question when you really get around having enough money to start building your new PC.
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Well,didint have plans for a new pc for few years in advance now but i guess if i will get around changing my CPU and Motherboard that would be like half of the new pc :D
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If you want to keep you board and only upgrade the CPU you may get the 8350 and maybe Dark Souls 3 does performe better or not.
For the same €/$ you also get a 9370/9590 but you have to be sure to handle the 220W and cooling.
Myself I would not spend 200€ just for maybe 3 or 4 games that run better, but wait very few months for Ryzen to get a system that will be enough for the next years.
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Read about core parking here
There's a little utility to unpark cores.
Unparking your CPU cores definitely increases FPS at least on AMD CPU's. Remember FPS increases will wary depending on your system but primarily your CPU. Some report getting higher increases on AMD CPU's and Intel CPU's so keep this in mind.
Keep in mind that Unparking your CPU's will only help if your CPU is bottlenecking the games performance.
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It's been answered, but there's one more thing to throw. The only slots you can't possibly mix is the CPU socket, but all other sockets are virtually universal. This is evident in GPU socket, which is usable by either parties (AMD / Nvidia).
As of why CPU socket isn't, talk about ego 😀😀
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Yep that was one thing which was kinda confusing to me since you can fit any GPU as long as it fits physically.
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Hey there good people of SG. So i have this question which might seem obvious to some of you but i've never been much of a hardware guy ( i know some stuff thou ) . Are CPU mounts and all the connections universal , meaning i could theoretically (if all stars and planets align :D ) use both AMD and Intel or i'm stuck with the brand i have now ?
Thanks.
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