Hi,

Yes I already left a support request about it but I wanted to ask you guys if you ever had to deal with something like that.

Some Guy I never talked to before adds me on Steam, I add him to ask what the add was for. He then starts swearing at me and calling me a Scammer for taking his 21 CSGO Keys for a Wolfenstein New Order game I supposedly didn't give him. The guy is clearly mistaken because I never traded any big games and when I do trade it's to get a game I want for cheaper. I tell him to check his account details so he can see who he actually traded with but there's no reasoning with him and he keeps swearing and telling me to suicide and die until he removes me.

After listeneing to his drama I check his Steamrep which is plain and then go to Steamtrades to see that he left me a Negative Review 30 mins earlier. WTF does this guy gain from doing that kinda bs.. I don't believe there's an Impersonator using my name I have a meansy 8 positive review, not the kinda profile you'd use to get people's confidence. I don't get what he can gain from this.. I left him a Negative review too that explains what he did.

Is there something more I can do to warn people of how stupid this guy is? I never actually traded with him but I have our chat as proof of how dumb he actually can be.

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Welcome to the wondrous world of being a trader, It's because you've got an impersonator I get between 2-5 guys like that a day.

-edit- Also, there's nothing you can really do about it, I've got dozens of open tickets on SR related to this some dating back as far as 8 months or so and steam doesn't seem to care at all, tons of people are to lazy to bother reading the FAQ section or even the stickied warnings on ST.

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Same here.

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Who is going to impersonate someone with a low rep? Someone who thinks people won't expect it.

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Leaving him a false rep as well wasn't such a great idea tho

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Ho because I shouldn't try to warn people of his idiocy.. I clearly explained what happened on the review I left.

10 years ago
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i get that but it's still false, so technically you broke the same rule as the guy who left you false rep

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In this instance, it's understandable though, as he needs to respond to the accusation handed out to him to limit potential damage to his actual reputation. Once the fake rep is removed from his profile, he can delete the "explanatory" rep on the guy who got scammed's profile.

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nothing is understandable about braking rules. he needs to contact support, not leave false rep

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What's false about it.. if someone sees the negative feedback on my profile at least now they can jump to this guy's profile and see the explanation.. otherwise it's like I just accept the negative feedback and do nothing about it. Support is gonna take weeks if not months to answer my request (if they even do).. during that time people will look at my profile and might turn back because of this a**hole? Technically, like you say, my reaction is an answer to his action.. where he did it without any actual reason.

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you didn't trade with him, so rep is false. that's not steam profile where you can leave messages. support is only possibility here, everything else is not.
and it doesn't take months :D more like maximum a week

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Clearly you didn't have to deal with support in a while.. I had to wait 2 months last time.

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Actually, nope. Tickets for fake rep on ST get looked at and handled with the lowest priority at the moment and can take multiple months at busy times to get handled. ST doesn't have any dedicated mods right now, and gets slower support altogether, also. Hence why I understand this guy bending the rule a bit, here ("bending" not "breaking" as he's not just leaving baseless / irrelevant fake -rep). He's attempting to defend his position against someone who is leaving fake +rep that can damage his chance at successful trades). His -rep isn't accusing the guy of anything or attacking / harassing him.

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Have a look at the edit at the bottom of the misuse of feedback thread, should clarify this a bit.

10 years ago
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Feedback should NOT be used for :

  • Revenge reputation (such as giving negative rep to someone just because they gave you false negative rep).
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There's no revenge there.. it's a proper warning about this user's behaviour.. He didn't just leave false rep.. it's FAKE.

Didn't you read this other part..

Considering the "Gives fake feedback"-like comments as acceptable. Still under discussion but looks like it will be added.

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FAKE == FALSE

  • since only considering, that's not yet accepted
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Dude you're trying WAY to hard to win this, why are you taking this so personal?
You have 10 rep on ST, so basically you never trade while on the other hand i've got 215 and counting, any idea how many reports i've filed and how many times Rinarin deleted fake rep from my profile and the comment i placed to warn people as to why the guy gave me -rep?
I can show you pages upon pages of fake -rep requests and yet NONE of the mods have ever told me that it wasn't acceptable, you clearly don't have a clue how bad it's gotten on ST.

Here's an example, hopefully this will convince you that mods do accept it and it has become common practice:

Hey konyo42,
Apologies for the delay. Comments from your profile and ##### profile have been removed.
Thank you for contacting us.

That's my latest request to remove -rep, and as you can see no mention of banning me or even warning me for placing a warning on the other guys ST profile, so again technically you're right, but things have changed and mods are aware of that.

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Hmm. I don't know.
Ticket response from 11 months ago:"...Let us know if the user leaves you a negative feedback again, and we'll take further actions. But please, don't post revenge feedbacks."

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I was going to say that it might be the way you've worded the comment, but seeing as it's you i'm pretty sure that that's not the case.
Your ticket is 11 months old though, and my first experience with a guy who blatantly refused to remove the -rep even after being shown that he was scammed by an impersonator happened only 7 months ago, and after that it did happen a few other times and only after it got really bad I started returning -rep to explain the situation since the -reps start stacking up after a while if you've got the bad luck of having multiple impersonators at once not to mention (the still ongoing?) ticket backlog.

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Dude .. last time I reply .. this is pointless if you can't read properly... they are considering it as acceptable.

10 years ago
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This is why SteamTrades needs a Neutral post feature for profiles. Warning of scammers is a good idea, after all.

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It's not like there's even keys for game. And Steam gifts would be traded in single trade.

Without knowing anything, maybe he was scammer trying to get you to give free game?
There was topic about this here or somewhere lese sometime ago I belive.

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Just because there aren't keys for it out there doesn't mean people actually bother to inform themselfs about that, i've heard the craziest of stories that people fell for, greed is a powerful tool for scammers.

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I've had a similar case like this, the guy was mostly just upset with my offer so removed me on Steam then called me a "scammer" on my steamtrades profile.

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I've had this happen to me about three times so far. Just submit a support ticket about it and leave it at that.

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Find his IP, DOS him,recover his personal details, get an offshore phone number, call the fbi, tell them there's a druglab in his house, sit back and relax ;)

10 years ago
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Why not just follow him home and rape his family?

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Or you could send him 1000 free empty boxes

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Of elephant dung.

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Exactly what I would do.

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Got a chat with the guy who gave you bad rep.
Its clear you had an impersonator. Check his name history. And he did this before
Thats the guy he sent those keys to.
The guy who gave you the bad rep will add you and remove his bad rep. If you'll do the same everything will be fine except for that guy being scammed. He hasnt got an account here so I'm just a messenger.

Please accept his friend request and talk this out. I made it clear to him he got angry at the wrong person.

(I saw he was online so I added him... had a little spare time so I thought lets try to find out whats going on here)

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Steam should really remove this name change feature or at least put a damn cooldown on it. I get that some people like to change their name for shits and giggles from time to time but it's so damn easy to abused by scamers or trolls.

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Or, at least, they should impose a trade restriction (15 days trade ban) every time someone change its name.

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"Traders" should stick to trading within the trade window.

Traders with a little experience already know how to do some background checks.

Seriously, I'm annoyed by the trade limitations. I get that it's to lower the workload for support if your account gets hacked. But trade limitations for changing your display name is just totally unnecessary.

I got a 7-day-trade-lock because I had to re-install Steam (thus my pc was suddenly recognizes as a "new device"). For someone who does trades on a regular basis, that feels like an eternity.

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I get where you're coming from, but I gotta say the guy's idea is brilliant in combination with a secondary name you can alter kinda like the status settings but one that you can edit yourself.
The only reason impersonators are so successful is that it's too easy to change your name all the time, since there's no restrictions they switch the user they impersonate on a regular schedule and because of that impersonator reports are useless.
By the time steam support even bothers taking a quick glance at their profile he's already using another identity and steam just closes the ticket, same goes for SR.
I'm not saying this to protect victims of scammers btw, Imo if you're too lazy to read warnings or even a FAQ getting scammed is the only way they'll learn, I see it as a way to protect people from being harassed 24/7, for me it has gotten to the point where I don't even want to login to steam anymore simply because i'm tired of all these people adding me and raging while not giving me a chance to explain that I didn't scam them, my impersonators have scammed more people using my name then i've even traded with.

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How about just a warning when you go into a trade with the player?

10 years ago
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nice attitude

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Thx for the help.. the guy did add me and we had a real chat this time.. not an angry mess like yesterday where he wouldn't even listen to me. Negative reps were removed on both sides and we both clearly know what happened now.. thx to you ;)

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First of all, this has nothing to do with having an impersonator, this is just blackmailing: he wants you to send him wolfenstein so that he removes the negative rep.
Obviously, don't do it!

That happened to me once, a guy urged me to add him to discuss about a game I had, then once I accepted his invite, he left me a -rep saying I had scammed him. I managed to chat with him again, to show him evidence he never sent me the tf2 keys (he sent me a screen of his trade history), then he promised to remove his rep if I did the same. ortunately, I took many screenshots. I did not remove my -rep on his profile, because what he did was actually a blackmailing attempt and that had to be notified to other users. He then had other steam accounts to say I was a scammer on my topic and my profile.

After some months of laziness, I finally sent a ticket to the support with all the screenshots on which he clearly said that I had never traded with him. I have yet to receive the answer, and I hope he and his other accounts will get banned from Steamtrades and Steamgifts

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If you'd read the post obove yours you can see that it has been confirmed that this is due to an impersonator.

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You're right, my fault

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Closed 10 years ago by BoGG.