The only strategy is not to buy castrated crap which GTX 750 TI is.
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Simply put: Because it's a trashy low-end entry level card, the 750 ti will be outperformed by even the worst medium-tier cards. Hell, the GTX 660 beats it in just about every gaming application. The 560 ti, too, in many. Seriously, look at some reviews of the 750 ti. The 770 is immensely better.
Regarding the 770, I had one before I upgraded to the 780 ti. It's a very nice card, and ran things like Black Flag, Far Cry 3, etc. really well. I'd recommend it.
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There is no "performance / price strategy" on Nvidia cards.But if you really have to buy Nvidia ( which I think is the worst thing you can do to your system right now ) go for GTX770.
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Ignore that guy's post. I'll never understand either side of the graphics card fanboy thing. I've owned both Nvidia and AMD/ATi on many occasions.
Most informed people would probably recommend the GTX 770 over the AMD 280x at the $300ish price point. The Nvidia should even be a bit less of a power hog, too. But not by much.
Maybe if Mantle actually turns out the way AMD wants, and Nvidia doesn't counter in any way, the 280x might turn out to be a better investment. But I don't have much faith in that happening.
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well thats our difference. game that came out 10 yrs ago for me as long as it have solid gameplay, storyline or even good mp i could give a go.but then again i rarely playing game with heavy grapic req (mostly strategy ,mmo, or rpg for me) so that also a factor. judging from your gpu prob med spec with some setting turn off for perfomance wise so prob it wasnt going to be that bad.
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This a very narrow view of graphics. Would you advise someone watch The Sopranos in black and white, just because "hurr durr good storyline is all that matters"? Video games, just like television, are at the very least partially a visual medium. Far Cry 3, for example, was designed with at least medium/high graphics in mind. Not seeing that while you're playing is missing out on a part of what the creators intended.
This is very different from playing classic games. Final Fantasy 6 is one of the best looking games of all time, in my eyes. Yes, from a technical level it looks worse than any modern game. But that's because the artistic elements of the game shine through the technical limitations. If you turn it black-and-white, you'll lose something. Just like you lose something playing Far Cry 3 in a jungle with a quarter of the intended amount of leaves, grass, draw distance.
Wanting to see good graphics isn't just about "pretty pictures." It's about getting the whole intended game. And it isn't an either/or situation. You CAN have the pretty pictures AND the story, so why SHOULDN'T you?
Even beyond that, even if the graphics weren't an integral part of the art in a game, just having the ability to have the game look good... well, why not? You can't make Deus Ex 1 look amazing, so you play it anyway. But if the graphics are there in Human Revolution, why not?
I'll never understand the "anti-graphics" people.
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i dont anti grapic. i say you misreading it. id say as long the the rest are suffit yes that will be ENOUGH for ME.grapic no matter what is just another medium not the whole part i dont lost many thing like grass or shadow stuff or even highly detailed model. but IF you could afford a better version than go for it. and yes sopranos (or insert random quality tv show) if the ONLY available are black or white i dont mind to, as long as the sound file are clear enough
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I agree with you that graphics aint everything and surely you don't "have" to have all the fancy lens flare and complex shadows. But at 'low' settings the game looks crippled compared to what its supposed to look. I think 'high' settings on games should work in most cases.
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well I bought a gtx 295 back when it came out in 2009,so its been over 5 years now the only thing it really has trouble with now is Skyrim with a crapton of extra graphics mods, probly still good for two or more years. I would say the higher end simply because it will last you longer (as long as you take care of it) and you will get the benefit of better graphics now.
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you need high card for high details and high resolution gaming
if your screen is less than 1080p / you just dont care about maxing your setting / dont see the diffrence / dont play high demanding AAA games (crysis/metro/skyrim)... you get the point
then dont do high-end card
for me i like to go high end and replace it every year, that way i pay 100$ per year but get to max my setting
but i do get downtime where i use older cards with older games. i play a lot of LOL
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well it depends on your local market and the resale value, also timing
half of my build are used parts
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there is point in buying a poweful card, but you also need to upgrade other parts so this card will work as it intends
for example: http://www.steamgifts.com/forum/pgC6C/name/page/1#26294122
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You can't make any of the cards last for 4-5 years, at least not in the sense of providing ultra details at 60 fps. Two years from now, it won't make much of a difference if your expensive card can push 40 at ultra, and your cheaper card can push 40 at high.
I personally think it's best to simply pick a power envelope that you (not the computer) can handle - pumping out 100W of heat is very different in terms of noise to pumping out 250W of heat out of the case. Then do a simple noise/performance analysis for cards that fall in that power envelope. Don't look at manufacturer-specified TDP - that's just BS. Look at various reviews.
My personal power envelope is 100W. When I got a new computer last year, I went for the Radeon 7790, as it was under 100W, and then I picked an Asus version that is almost noiseless.
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The more heat is generated inside a computer case, the more airflow is needed to remove that heat. Just like power equals heat, airflow equals noise. There are people who don't mind a 120mm fan running at 1500 rpm, but there are also people like me who think anything above 800 rpm is quickly becoming obnoxious :) It's not just the fan(s) on the graphics card, it's about all the fans in the system.
Airflow also equals dust. If you're not too keen on regular vacuuming, or if you have pets, then you'll also have a lot more dust and pet hair inside a standard negative-pressure case with lots of fans at higher rpm, compared to a positive-pressure case with slow fans that contains less power-hungry components. I built a PP system six months ago, and I haven't had to clean it once, compared to my old NP system, which would have been full of cat hair after such a time period.
Dust then means higher temperatures, because it conducts heat worse than air - which in return means higher fan speeds and more noise.
You said you had a GTX 285... That's a 150W card.
If you're content with how your computer sounds, and its various internal temperatures, then you should stick to a 150W power envelope.
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If I were building a computer right now I'd go for the MSI GTX 760 2GB. I've read it maxes out at around 155 or 160W and is one of the quietest cards for its performance.
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Dude, I think you are taking the noise, dust too serious. For a gamer, the first thing is to achieve higher performance. Inside my PC case, I have a triple-fan video card, a 120mm fan for CPU and a fan inside PSU. For my PC case, it has 3 fans on front, back, and side. So my PC has totally 8 fans working together when it is powered on. While I am wearing headphones, I almost hear nothing there. Also, airflow doesn't directly equal dust, my room is clean and for last 2 years I only cleaned my PC once. Although some cards eat over 150w power, they can still keep quiet. The reasons can be better design, high quality of card (including better thermal paste, heat pipes, fans),better factory tech which make the card maintain the same performance at lower voltage than reference card. Many beast cards don't roar at all.
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Only if you want to play future games in medium setting. "it works pretty well" as a $150 card but as you're planning to use this for the next 3 years, I would say just buy a 760. Sell Watch Dogs for like $30 and you'll get much better value.
For performance / price, 760 is the best GPU you can get
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Hello there.
Depends on the timing.
Right now I would strongly recommend a mid range card or even better ... just buy nothing for now. Wait at least another year and buy a high end card then.
When the first real next gen games will be ported over the requirements will make a leap forward.
Better cards will get much cheaper in the process.
After that leap nothing real will change in the hardware sector in the next 5-8 years (VR hardware excluded).
Take a look at Watch Dogs, for example. This game has been ported over from last gen (almost 6 years development time) and still needs a 560 for recommended hardware specs. The first games which will really utilize the capability of the next gen consoles also will go much harder on your PC.
I'm pretty sure a 770 will be 'kind of' outdated in the next 2 years. Meaning that you won't able to crank everything up to max.
The next new cards on the other hand will stay top notch until the next next gen arrives.
Hope I could help.
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oh I understand thats a good explanation. and I do agree now is a bad timing. on the other hand my GPU croaked and I'm using an onboard GPU for now...so I kind of want to be able to play games.
Perhaps the 750ti would be good for now until the 800 series come out? Or maybe 660? mm...
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Consider the AMD R9-270X or the R9-280... Look at the benchmarks and the price and then make up your mind. If you're gonna go for Nvidia, then go for the GTX770 or a 780 (which is too expensive) but any other card of Nvidia has too bad a price / performance ratio to consider.
Also, don't plan on when to buy gpus.
I mean, come on, do you really think the gtx770 will make it 5 years? Do you know what can happen in 5 years? You can get rich, you might not like gaming anymore, the card may break down outside of warranty, you may change your mind 10000 times... You can't plan such a thing out.
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I was mainly referring to general buying strategy.
Basicly the main question is 'Do I get more expensive and better now and switch slower or get affordable half price half performance and switch more often'.
I will look into the AMDs too thanks.
And I know alot can change in 5 years. my gtx 285 lasted me until recently, then it died and I couldn't bake it back to life anymore.
I'm not into heavy gaming anymore, but I do want to be able to play games on decent settings. 285 couldn't handle Far Cry 3 which got me a bit miffed.
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If you're looking for a gaming GPU, don't buy GeForce cards under x60 (550, 650, 750), and don't buy Radeons under x8x0 (7790, 7770, 6790,...), or the new R9's under 270. Get a 760, or a 270X.
That's my advice.
If you're going to disregard it, then go for the cheap midrange option. I got fucked on the expensive option, when AMD/ATI dropped support for their HD 4xxx series, leaving me with the annoying garbled text bug on my HD 4870, so now I stick to the above mentioned zone (ordered an ASUS Radeon R9 270X 4GB DirectCU II TOP 2 days ago).
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http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Go with the tier that suits you, and then update when time causes you drop to a tier that is too low for you.
This means that you should probably go with a middle ground between the 750ti and the 770. I have the 760 because that's at a level that matches my processor and the rest of the row. For me, it will still take a few years (from now, not when I bought them) before it's too low for me.
But, to be be serious, the 770 is more powerful than you need. Save $80 and get the 760 which will be still might be a little more powerful than you need, but certainly won't be underpowered.
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i have 750Ti and i like it, Ofc u cant run stuff like arma 3 on ultra but for a 150dollar or less, its a very good card!
It runs all COD's on max and all the other games i play alot like Dota 2 and CS GO.
And 750Ti is very power efficient. It doesnt need a powerful PSU, when 770 is alot more powerful and needs a more powerful PSU i think.
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Obviusly think in your priorities. For example i want my gpu for rendering 3D sculpts and hard playing and testing games so i buy a 780Ti superclocked and it will be changed when it dies xD burned or naturally. Dont think about change your gpu for the time it have. Change it when you need and buy one according to your needs.
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I can't say definitively that my strategy is best, but it has been working very well for me for the past 30 years or so.
Using the above strategy, I have been able to play any games I buy without noticeable limitations. Also, anytime I have had a problem, I have simply had the card replaced by the manufacturer. Most of the time, it has been sufficient to shop at Newegg.com and EVGA to guarantee my satisfaction with both purchase and replacement of any parts I buy, but I have occasionally used local computer stores for parts. Local is a good idea when the price difference is negligible and returns or repairs can be tricky. Lastly, keep in mind that when it comes to the retail pricing of electronics, you usually get what you pay for.
As you may have noticed, the above strategy can be applied to most purchases, computer or otherwise. That is how I've been able to afford a decent quality of goods on a tight budget.
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Whats the best GPU buying strategy in your experience?
Buy a 'Mid range' card $150-$200 every 1-3 years?
Or 'Mid-High end' card $300-400 every 4-5 years?
Right now I'm trying to decide on GTX 750 TI vs GTX 770
Any other recommendation?
Whats the best performance / price strategy ?
Note: Asking now specificly since my old GPU died and right now I'm running on an on-board GPU which isn't suitable for gaming at all.
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