What is better: 100 Mb upload and download by cable or 50 Mb upload and download by fiber optic?

Edit: Took 3 speed tests with new internet provider.
Edit 2: Verizon is now called Frontier after a recent merge with another ISP.

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I have never actually imagined this question. I am assuming 100mb would be better no matter what it's from...because....100Mb...?

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By "cable" you mean ADSL?

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Yes.

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Then fiber is more reliable, and maybe less likely to fail.

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I think the difference would be the loss. You would probably get close to those 50 Mbps with fiber, while I doubt you would anywhere near those 100 Mbps on ADSL.

Or I could be totally wrong here, please correct me someone if it's so.

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Fiber is rarely (never?) fiber to your house, just to your neighborhood and then copper wire to your house. I had a fiber service before and it was no different to me than cable.

Go for the faster download speeds, but read the fine print and be certain they will actually provide the advertised speed. Most ISPs nowadays will say "up to" a certain speed and then just provide a fraction of that.

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Come to my store today, and you MIGHT save UP TO 80%. snicker (We put the gumballs 80% off. Normally, they were 25c/each).

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It depends of each country, in mine (Spain) FTTH is more common than FTTC/FTTB+coaxial. I personally have FTTH installed in a normal flat.

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Regardless of which you get, you're not going to get the speeds listed since ISP's list speeds in Mbps and not MB's. To make it clearer, the speed they state is megabits, not megabytes. For conversion purpose, 1 megabit is equal to 0.125 megabytes, therefor a connection like 100 Mbps isn't likely to get you download speeds faster then 12.5 MB's.

As for the difference between cable and fiber, to my understanding, with reputable ISP's, both services lines are fiber optics, with the exception of the final stretch to a house from phone lines, boxes, etc... The last stretch is typical copper for Fiber services, while cable runs through a coaxial cable. Even though the coaxial cable uses copper as well, it's designed in a way that is meant to reduce leakage/loss, so theoretically, cable would be the faster choice overall. However, I can say in my area, how cable services work, cable can be slower if the area you live in has lots of people using cable as their service, however, I've only ever run into this problem once in my life.

That all said, I personally prefer Cable, it's been the better service for me over the years. Currently have a 100 Mbps connection, but surprisingly am actually getting speeds of 130 - 160 Mbps most of the time, which results in my download speeds typically being 13-20 MB's.

Edit: Note that everything I'm saying is based on how NA ISP's operate.
Edit: Touched up post because originally I was thinking DSL, not Fiber, don't ask, brain is shot.

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Just got 10Mbps 3 days ago, downloading at 920KBps and I'm happy. Then I read your comment. Shit third world I live in.

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If it makes you feel better, internet is expensive and ridiculous here in Canada. The service I got now was a blessing since it came with unlimited bandwidth, but costs almost $100 a month. Typically though, we get stuck paying prices like I said, but having bandwidth caps ranging from 80-300GB, which gets used up way too fast. Then we either have to pay an additional $25-$50 a month for unlimited bandwidth, or get charged $1-$3 for every 1GB we go over our limit. You can imagine how much that sucks for gamers, people who use netflix, youtube, and so on.

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Some companies do that in the US as well. I use to have unlimited bandwidth and then I got a notice in the mail one day saying I went over my 300GB limit. Because people didn't know about the limit, they allowed us to go over with no charge 3 times before they started charging overages.

It really sucks having a limit. I use to have to check it all the time because Netflix would cause us to go over, but recently they bumped us up to 1000GB and it isn't a problem anymore. These companies work with eachother to be non competitive which basically makes them monopolies and it should not be allowed.

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I was under the impression the US was past that. Worked Technical Support/Billing for TWC like 10 years ago, and it offered great unlimited packages then. Sure speeds at the time weren't amazing, but was still better deals then here in Canada, made me so jealous they weren't here.

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Yup, it use to be unlimited and a lot of companies probably still offer unlimited, but we seem to be going backwards. They basically sign non competition agreements with eachother to split up the land and only 1 company services each area so we end up with monopolies that make over 90% profits. They said that Time Warner made 97% profit in 2013 on it's cable internet.

I don't know how the profit percent numbers work, but it sounds like if we made these monopolies illegal and brought competition back, we should all have $5 or $10 internet bills instead of $60.

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Holy shit, $100/month? They're bending you over without lube. O.o
On the plus side, Canada has much better beer.

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That would be a plus if I liked beer...

:(

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Completely off-topic story incoming --

Right after college, I worked in sales for an auto parts wholesaler as the international sales agent, dealing with overseas and sales to Canada. I'd call a bunch of my regular clients and update them on order status and take new orders. Well, I called one of my Canadian clients one afternoon, he picked up the phone, and we had our usual chat. A lot of the Canadian clients ran their repair shops from their homes, so it wasn't unusual at all to call them at home to take their orders. Of course, he ordered a bunch of parts he needed for his shop, and we continued chatting for a bit (for some reason, Canadians always think I'm from Nova Scotia because of my relaxed, quiet voice, so they tended to like me more than the other salesmen).

Anyway, about 15 minutes into the chat, he says "hey, sorry to have to cut this short, but my girlfriend and I are drunk as hell right now and in the middle of having sex. Can I call you back tomorrow to talk more?"

And yes, he did indeed call back the next day to continue the chat.

TLDR: Canadians are the most incredibly nice people. Hahaha.

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Lmfao, great stuff. If only the majority of Canadians actually lived up to that nice rep.

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Was US$42 for 3Mb, then US$45 for 10Mb currently. Don't know if it's expensive by your standards. Haven't found yet about a limit, but probably would be decreased speed to 6Mb rather than charging more if you go through the limit. I know that higher speeds have those limits here too: 20Mb *250GB limit ->10Mb unlimited.

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I wouldn't wanna pay that for that speed, but I was paying about the same (think it was $39.99) awhile back for 10Mbps DSL, along with a $20 monthly modem rental fee, and had to pay an extra $30 (if I recall right) for unlimited bandwidth. Otherwise I had an 80GB cap.So yah, basically $90, so I'm insanely glad to be back with cable at nearly the same price for much better service. Here are the cheapest you can get from each type of service in my area.

Cable
5Mbps $24.99 + $8 modem per month. 25GB bandwidth limit
30Mbps $ $69.99 per month. 250GB bandwidth limit

Fiber
25Mbps $74.95 per month, 350GB bandwidth cap.

DSL
3Mbps $29.95 per month, 20GB bandwidth limit.

There are alternative companies, 3rd parties if you will, that provide better rates. They basically buy the service from the main companies and give slightly better pricing, but... It's not guaranteed to work everywhere, you typically have to buy a $150 - $200 modem, pay activation fee's, and they still have bandwidth caps too. Customer support from them is apparently terrible too. Not that the reps are bad, just that they're lacking and limited on what they can do compared to the major companies, so... If you have issues, getting them resolved can be far more complicated and take a lot longer.

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Here in Chattanooga, TN we can get 10 gigabit :)
I'm using 25Mb cable though because I'm in an old apartment and they didn't run the fiber through our building yet. Plus, 10 gig would be too expensive at $300 a month, 1 gig costs the same as what I am paying for my 25Mb cable though :)

Edit: Don't think the entire US is like this though because it certainly is not. I was looking at a house only about 20 minutes from where I live now and it had no cable or DSL internet at all. The only option is satellite or cell service and they are both horrible. LTE cell service is really great with speeds, but there is no provider that will give you more than about 25GB of data per month for a reasonable price and satellite is worse.

Also, the last house I lived in when I lived in NY was in the woods and had no cable. It did have DSL, but it was so far away that they couldn't provide us with the 1Mbit speed we were paying for. After many years of complaining, they finally added a closer access point and bumped us up to 3Mbit for no additional cost, but it was still pretty bad.

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Almost US$45 for 10Mb. Before that was almost US$40 for 3Mb (8 years). Mostly because of monopolies, and this past year, companies started to compete to each other and came close to my city and are aiming for it in this and next year (hopefully).
Here you can get 300Mb I think (haven't searched for that), it's quite expensive considering the rates that are applied here.

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In the US, they suck us in with introductory rates and then slowly raise the price. When we first signed a 1 year contract it was less than $20/month for our 25Mb connection. After that year ended, they raised the price to around $35. Then like 6 months later they raised it to around $45. Now it is up to $60 for the same 25Mb connection and there is no other cable provider we can switch to. We can switch to DSL, but it is much slower and not much cheaper.

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Yeah, here too, just saw it. This is with unlimited phone calls (no cell) + 10Mb.
1º 12 months 50% at US$25.
2ª Next 3 months 25% at US$38.
3º Final price US$50.

I'm paying US$45 probably because had Trio with DirecTV, or because I'm an old client (which is really rare to see us getting nice stuff).

Still, it's decent here. Could get 50Mb WiFi at US$55 but you end up with 5Mb, disconnected, low strength of signal and horrible technical service, if you ever get a response.

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Theoretically, the cable would be better, but what matters is the real speed you're getting on each, not the advertised -- which also depends on how "honest" your provider is and how many other people in your area are using the service.

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OP: The fiber is capped at 50Mbps, the cable at 100Mbps.
By the way, I actually get more than what's advertised on my cable - it depends on how many others are using the service in the area.

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I would personally take the fiber, but it depends on how many people will be using the connection at once and what you do online. I would only see the benefits from 100 Mbit instead of 50 every once in a while when downloading a game, but I don't mind waiting a little extra time for that because I would see the benefit of the lower latency of fiber all day every day.

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The latency is a great point. I assumed the OP was only concerned with pure download speed.

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Yeah, I'm only on 25Mb now and download speed is almost never a problem. We can have 3 or 4 HD streams from Netflix or Youtube going at the same time with bandwidth to spare. The only time it bothers me much to wait for a download is a large game around 10GB or more, but that is rare so I really don't mind.

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Speed is so addictive. ;_;
We're supposed to be getting 300Mbps fiber in my area in the next 6 months or so (I say "supposed" because you know how that goes), and I can't wait. Low latency + download speed = hot seckz.

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We have 10 gigabit available here :)
See my comment here.

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I can't afford that, though, haha.
My cable bill is already unreal (the fiber will be through the same cable company) and that would more than double it. O.o

We need some serious competition in the area.

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Yah, I just looked at website for my ISP to see if any prices have changed or new packages, and I just saw the most amazing deal I've ever seen...

1Gbps Down 30Mbps Up. $145 a month. I want it so bad now. I'd download games almost instantly.

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i voted for 100mb fiber because i didn't read the op❤

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Can't beat Fiber.

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Are cables not fibre optic by default? I mean unless your cable network is like 30 years old they're using optical cables not copper wires...

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cable = copper
fiber = glass

yes behind your "cable service provider" they are (if any good) running fiber behind it all, but the service to the home user is as stated above.

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Well actually, that's partially right (based on what I've read). Fiber services typically still use copper for the last stretch to a house, while cable use a coaxial cable. Although the coaxial still uses copper, it's designed in a way that significantly reduces loss as appose to just a simple copper line.

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yeah some may stop just short of your house in a junction box, and some may bring it all the way into the home.. honestly either way it goes your actual pc still ends up on copper (cat5/5e/6) or wireless signal in the very end too. but yea. ^^

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100 Mbits is better (because it's the double) only if the average latency is better or the same as in that 50 Mbit fiber. It all depends on the carriers each ISP uses.

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I'm surprised that ppl enjoy cable over fiber :-O in my country, they are gradually changing from cable to fiber, bcuz cable has slower speed than fiber :-O

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There are wrong info in this thread, double check before you trust anything (including my post).

Let's assume the condition is the same for each type of connection (copper vs FO)

  1. Internet speed (download/upload)
  2. Pricing
  3. Latency (impossible, actually)

then either has same quality. The only difference is your traffic destination. If you are from America connecting to Indonesia, no matter what kind of last mile you have, the difference is minimal and the only determining thing is how many hops you need to go through.

Now if we talk from technical perspective, Cable can hardly beat FO in terms of latency. FO simply has better quality here. If each has to go through 3 hops to the destination, one is cable all the way and the other is FO all the way, then FO wins hands down. Without a doubt.

People think cable has better speed than FO (yes, I saw this statement above somewhere)? The hell?

If your ISP is offering cheaper pricing if you use copper, it is understandable. The infrastructure is there already, at least in my country. If we want to use FO, they need to install new FO line of course, hence more expensive.

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As I stated above, most NA cable companies use Fiber. The major difference between cable services and Fiber from the phone company is the last stretch of line from phone lines or junction boxes to the house. For the most part, the phone companies still connect from lines to house using copper lines, while cable companies are using coaxial cables which are more efficient. Here is a link from my current ISP explaining it as well. But do note I don't just take their word for it, in fact I just found that link, I have read up on everything on tech sites.

http://www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal%3F_nfpb%3Dtrue%26_pageLabel%3DINTER_LANDING%26setLanguage%3Den

Really, in the end, the difference between Fiber and Cable will be minimal (when comparing the same speed packages), but the further Fiber users are from the main lines, the longer the copper line is, the more likely they are to get slower speeds then cable. In the event the fiber line goes directly too the house, they may have better speeds, but once again, it would be minimal.

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Fibre optic all the way. Speed can be increased a lot more on fibre optic compared to copper based cable like hybrid fibre coaxial.

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