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For it to run, I don't think you would need anything else (it has an integrated video card so there is no need for a discrete one, unless you play games). For gaming, I would not suggest getting this bundle. You would need an operating system like windows 7 or 8. This would cost you, unless you go with linux, which is free. You would just need a keyboard, mouse, and monitor.

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no problem

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Possibly SSD if you have some more money to throw out. Anyway, as he said, this is by no means setup to do serious gaming.

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Not bad at all. If you get a better gpu you could do some light gaming. If you're not into gaming, then i'd say its perfect for regular use. As for website, Newegg is probably the best. You may find good deals on tigerdirect too.

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pretty much

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You could play Terraria though, so thats good.

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i believe you have no other option for 250$ than used. i just bought used gpu for 250

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750TI is pretty powerful for the price and Ive seen one as low as 120. Im sure you could find a used 560-660 or an r9 270/x for <200 for sure. They are by no means 780ti's, but op already stated he is fine with default/midrange settings.

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If I'm not mistaken, he has $250 for the whole computer, not just the GPU :/

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The best way to "get the most out of a little bit" is to build your own. Or have a friend build one for you. that's how you get the most "bang for your buck."

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I don't like killing Deers though.

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Yes, very good.

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PC Part Picker is a tool. There's no substitute for experience or know-how, but it's still a good tool. There are enough PC builders within the SG community that they could give you a good idea of what you're looking for. Just give them the following information:

  • The parts you own already (that may be used in a new "rig")
  • Your end-goal (e.g. "I want to play a majority of games currently on Steam.")
  • Your budget (both "target" and "maximum")

Also, if you have other considerations, such as a preference for Intel/Nvidia or heat concerns, mention those, too.

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Single core. Dead end electronic waste on the counter. You might get a faster phone.

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My GS3 outperforms that thing for sure.

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I personally would avoid that kit if you intend to game on it. I usually don't recommend this but if you're on such a low budget consider going on Craigslist if it's available in your area to scout around for deals (other sites would work too, ebay?, you could also check out local yard sales.) Who knows? You might get lucky and find a year or two old gaming rig within your budget, or even something cheaper and better than that particular kit that would just need a cheap GPU tossed into it. Good luck!

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this probably!

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Dear god that is bad... So bad.

Don't actually buy that thing. It's a really horrible, slow single core Sempron processor, a MOBO I would only hesitantly call 'passable' because it's technically functional and from a good brand, but it's a 700 series northbridge so it has no SATA III or USB 3.0 support. The HDD is... Okay I guess. There's nothing particularly wrong with it really, I just tend to prefer HDDs from better manufacturers. Toshiba is a good brand mind, but as I recall their HDDs are Hitachi, which isn't really great imo.

But, dear lord, that PSU... I wouldn't touch that PSU with a 10 foot pole.

Most importantly... The person above that said something about putting an SSD in this thing... Don't. Seriously, just... Don't. It's such a waste as the CPU is so bad it will bottleneck anything you're trying to do, and the MoBo won't even support SATA III 6Gb/s anyway, so you're unlikely to be able to process things through the system fast enough to warrant a faster hard drive, let alone a solid state drive. In fact, regarding the whole putting a decent quality anything into this thing: Don't. It's a waste and defeats the purpose.

This is, at best, a web surfer's box. It has integrated video on the MoBo that MAY work for decoding 1080p HD videos. That's about the most real work it'll do. If you can stand to game at ridiculously low settings, I guess you could technically game on it a little too, but the CPU is so weak I wouldn't count on it doing either honestly, at least not tolerably (ie: without stuttering and hanging).

Generally I would call this 'machine' a total waste of $200, as there's basically nothing particularly useful you can do with it. And to fix it basically equates to building a whole brand new machine, because there's nothing in this that is decent enough to warrant using even in a build that would be at the super low end of current components.

I agree with KungFuFishy... I NEVER recommend used PCs... But if your budget is really THAT low, try Craigslist or something. You might be able to find something decent there, and it'd be hard to actually find something much worse...

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That thing won't even handle 64bit applications on that ancient CPU, so web browsing is likely off the table.

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And I see nothing anywhere referring to that as a gaming computer.
It absolutely could never have been called one, as you can't reasonably market something as a gaming computer when it has no GPU included.
However that thing is an absolutely basic, barebones PC, WELL below low end by current standards. That thing is super low end for when the AM3 chipset was relevant, nearly 4 years ago. There's no calling that thing anything but a super low end, basic kit.

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You can browse without having to run 64 bit applications. And the CPU isn't THAT old, it is a 64 bit CPU.
However, it's so weak that there is a fair note that browsing could be an issue. The massive prevalence of Javascript and Flash scripts running in webpages...
That thing is likely so weak that if you tried to browse with more than a tab or two open that contained any running scripts, it might lock the computer up...

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TIL, the internet is 64bit only. /s
64bit internet browser and applications are not the defacto standard mate.

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You better TIL to read. And brains and shit. If you're not living in a cave on Costa Rica, you don't spend money on a PC that won't go anywhere. And this one won't. It also won't handle 64bit applications as those are made to use resources this CPU will not be able to process. Most likely it will crumble even trying to run Win7, VLC for web radio and Firefox without any addons. I had one of those. Almost a decade ago.

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You should get at least 4 cores

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OP should, at worst, get a dual core. Quad is preferable still though.

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For a new rig, unless you have no plans to game, buying a dual core anything is like throwing away money. Im not saying he needs an i7 extreme processor, but a dual core is a no go.
4th gen i5s I have seen at 180 for 4670k, hell I saw staples/frys price matching i7-4770 for 200.

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very true; a dual core i3 w/ht can definitely allow some gaming. Of course, not at max settings or high resolutions, but still playable in many scenarios.

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The case doesn't look like it breathes that well, graphics card is low end, and while it's not lacking in ram..

Huh, anyone know how much discount is the Newegg preferred?

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You essentially cannot build a computer that will do even the majority of baseline gaming for that little.
To do any reasonable gaming, you're looking at nearly $200 for just a decent mid-range GPU.
To build a computer with gaming in mind, even just at the average minimum specs, you're going to need a budget more like $500-600 minimum.

The breakdown is about like this:
$100 CPU
$80 MoBo
$80 RAM
$190 GPU (R9 270x, can go a bit lower, like R7 260, but this is ideal for mid-range)
~$100 PSU

Those figures, except the GPU, are just rough estimates based on some averages in mind because how often I do this. They are by no means firm figures with specific parts in mind, just something approximating the baseline for what I'd call decent components. There is some wiggle room in there of course, but the purpose is to give an idea of where a reasonable baseline budget target should be.

So, basically, to get something remotely reasonable assembled, you are going to have to roughly double your budget.
That doesn't even include storage or optical drives either yet, but some things can be adjusted to account for them.
If you also need a new monitor and other peripherals, then you're looking to probably be pushing $750+.

The price range you're at is simply unreasonable for a new build. Effectively your options are this: Search classified ads/craigslist for a good deal on a used gaming rig (which I never recommend willingly), or save up quite a bit larger total first.

To be totally blunt: Building anything in that price range is a complete waste of money. It will be an extremely low end PC, probably with very cheap and unreliable parts, and liable not only to be useless as soon as it is built, but to be prone to having a very short lifespan. My advice as a PC builder and general tech geek, since I was 13-14 (that's 1996 for anyone counting, meaning yes, I have been doing this almost 20 years counting non-professional years), is that the baseline I give is a baseline for reasonable return on investment. ie: $250 for a PC that lasts ~1 year as a terrible quality experience, or $600 and I can build you a PC you can game on for at least 3 years of a decent quality experience, double the price for 3x the life and 10x the experience.
As such, unless absolutely forced by a customer, I will never even attempt to build a setup at such a low price point.

Also, where you say your current PC is 7-10 years old, I'll simply tell you outright right now, you will not be salvaging parts from it reasonably. Anything in it is going to be effectively useless, and it's so far past the reasonable life expectancy of PC parts, I wouldn't risk putting them into a new machine. Some of the very longest warranties in the business top out about 5 years for a reason. If you've had stuff continue working to the 10 year mark, you've already doubled that. It's not unheard of, but denotes quality parts as well as luck. The saying "don't press your luck" comes to mind regarding trying to reuse such components.

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I don't think you're likely to find a sub-$350 rig which will play the majority of games on the default settings (well, technically may be yes, the majority of games are probably small indie or old, but I don't imagine that's what you mean.)

The combo in the original link looks to me like pretty good value, but you need Windows and a decent graphics card to get a real gaming system, and each of these cost around $100.

That said, if you have a copy of Windows you can transfer from your previous PC, that may be enough.

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