Marvel or DC?
Play PoE instead and not waste your time on something that's going away
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Funny how we sometimes forget that we should play games to have fun, not to get items and in-game rewards.
I'm pretty sure the fun I had playing it will never go away.
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getting items and in-game rewards can be part of the fun
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Lmao closing in 2 days didnt really expect that. 3 weeks was at least some time to do stuff but dang wonder why they moved it up so far in advance. It sucks for all the people let go during the holiday season hopefully they can find new places to work at
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Cutting into the CEO's coke and hookers fund to pay people to do nothing. Hell they didn't even pay out their severance or PTO (paid time off) accounts.
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Game was crap anyway.
Path of Exile gets boring fast.
Torchlight is a two or three play through only game.
Grim Dawn is alright for a while but lacks staying power and replayability.
I think Action Role-playing Games are just destined to bore the fuck out of me after a while. Funnily, never felt that way about Diablo 2.
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Diablo 2 got the atmosphere spot on I think. Diablo 1 is also the same if it wasn't for the crude graphics.
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Diablo 1 has much more atmosphere than Diablo 2, imo. The light radius there limits you much more, along with the much better ambient music, plus the tension of you not being allowed to outrun enemies... no other ARPG comes closer to it.
Diablo 2 quickly becomes a spell spam game with most builds, and that's actually what influenced most "Diablo-clones" that came later, and that design really don't match the gameplay in Diablo 1, where you had to lure less monsters using light radius, corner ranged enemies with melee to kill, and so on.
I just really hope Eitr will nail it and deliver something closer to Diablo 1. If it had multiplayer coop, it'd have potential to become my new favourite game.
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No it doesn't. Plain and simple. The fidelity of D1 is so low and each floor has nowhere near the depth of any Act in D2.
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I honestly feel there's much more stuff wrong with the players than with the games, we're just doomed to get bored now.
Back in the days we could keep replaying the same game, with no variation, no permanent progression... and we'd keep playing it for years.
Now, we demand that games keep rewarding us on all manners possible. And if it takes too long for us to receive what we want, we feel bored by the grind. If we reach out goal, we get bored for having nothing else to do.
We want freedom, but if the game gives us too much freedom, we get lost and get bored. If the game restricts us too much, we feel too limited and also get bored.
And so on... for every single aspect. It's like we're demanding a perfect game that will nail every single aspect possible, and it'll never happen, specially since the real balance on those stuff is subjective.
Can you go back and play Diablo 2 as you played back in the days? Honestly, most of the time I replay an old game I played a lot back in the days, I can't find the same fun, and get bored much quicker than I think I should - even the nostalgia factor isn't enough.
The only exception are my "top 3" from my youth: Diablo 1, UT99, Mega Man X... the rest I hardly can push myselt to play more than a few hours.
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Well... you have almost 3k games. It's obvious that you won't play the same game because now you have so many available. If the game isn't great, then there's something out there that will be great for you.
It's not a "we" issue. It's a "you" issue. I have the same problem, but that's also because I have too many games. Those that don't are completely different. Those that lack the huge number of games tend to have huge playtimes in most of their games.
You can go back. Disable your internet and close yourself off to a game that you want to play. You'll find the fun once you know that you don't have other options. You'll make due.
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No, it's not because he hss too much games, it's because the offer / competence. You can spend your time in thousands of games, tens or hundreds similar to one in particular. New and old, purchased or pirated. So the user can choose between so much options that claims more and is less willing to endure flaws.
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Yes. That was my exact point. Too many options = High expectations. There will be games that do it better, so your tolerance will be lower.
A person with no games other than GTA 3 will be fine with GTA 3. A user with all of the GTA games will not be fine with GTA 3 because they have better alternatives.
These things are in correlation. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but with most people, this correlation does.
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It's not the only problem. The gaming industry have also diversified through the years. After MMOs, most games started to offer some sort of leveling, grind or "late-game", as players started demanding that on any genre. After mobile F2P games, quite a few games started offering microtransactions, and added invisible walls to make it necessary to many players, then loot boxes become a thing on too many games, and so on.
I feel we've been trained by the game industry to require constant rewards and that the games would allow us to do anything we want all the time, while also offering everything else we desire, that's what I'm saying.
Even if we don't have a game to play, maybe for not owning it or being unable to run it if we could pirate it (and desired to), the simple fact of knowing that such game exists and being able to watch its videos could be enough to make you crave for it, and start to require such good qualities of it on other games.
It's like when people demand coop on games, it's funny... I want every game to be coop, but I know sometimes it won't make it, be it for the experience it gives, for technical issues or whatever. But people complain, as if they're entitled to demand any aspect they deem necessary on any game.
I have quite a few friends that have lots of games, but tend to keep playing the same shit through years. Not that long ago, I have spent hundreds of hours on Marvel Heroes and Warframe myself. So having games or not have nothing to do with it.
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but tend to keep playing the same shit through years. Not that long ago, I have spent hundreds of hours on Marvel Heroes and Warframe myself.
People with tons of games only play free to play garbage. It's a fact.
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I don't know... I have many friends that have lots of games, and mainly only play Blizzard shit, MOBAS or Counter-Strike.
MMOs in general are timesinks, so if you're prone to that sort of addiction, you may spent hundreds to thousands of hours without noticing... it's not the fact that they're "free to play" garbage that really counts, imo.
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Blizzard shit and Counter Strike are free to play games that somehow cost money (partially as a small anti-cheater hurdle)
They still have microtransactions, loot boxes, gambling, eSportz(tm) and everything else.
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I mean, I only have a ton, but I wouldn't say I only play F2P games. Yeah, sure I played Warframe for around 50 hours (+30 being AFK and using it as a hub to run around in and talk to people in), but it's not because it's F2P. It's because the game was fun. Good games will get played. The most popular F2P games tend to be good. They're accessible as well if you want to play it with others. There are a lot of people that won't spend money on games, which would make multiplayer a difficult thing to achieve in most other games. So, you compromise. It's easily accessible.
But whatever, it's not like there's a point in talking about this to you, considering you literally just call F2P games garbage and seem to paint them all as bad regardless.
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I played Warframe for around 50 hours (+30 being AFK
Below hundreds of hours (if not thousands) you sadly don't qualify for feeling talked about or offended. If Warframe is your most played F2P/MOBA(/MMO) game, I would like to express my deep admiration.
I guess I played somewhere between 1k and 3k hours of my most played F2P garbage.
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But... What.... Are...
What you said makes literally no sense...
You said that, quote: "People with tons of games only play free to play garbage. It's a fact"
I have "a ton" of games. I don't play free to play "garbage". It isn't a fact. It isn't an absolute.
It has nothing to do with how many hours I have in anything. Unless you think that I can't have 1k+ games if I haven't got 1000 hours in some random F2P game. Which... would be ridiculous.
Not to mention... gametime in those gigantic numbers mean nothing in a discussion like this anyways. You need to play any game enough to get its feel, its details and, if possible, go through the story.
Warframe and most other games like that are made to have either no ends or just extremely long routes to the end.
Yes, we can both talk about Warframe. You have more insight in the gameplay department, but your views will also be tilted because of the amount of time you've dedicated to it.
Just overall, this is some weird type of gatekeeping and it had nothing to do with what was previously mentioned by me or you.
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I'll arbitrarily define "tons of games" as 4000+.
As for games that end up in a massive, pointless grind (see: the end game of any MMO), you don't gain anything from experiencing the grind yourself. Somebody else telling you about it definitely suffices, unless one is unable to comprehend what a massive, unending grind even feels like.
OT: My last verdict on Warframe was when it became more and more of a pay to win crapfest in late 2013. I can't hold very accurate views of how it is a bazillion patches later.
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Okay, I thought you were meaning the colloquial term, which just means "a lot".
Most people grind because they enjoy the gameplay loop. Otherwise people wouldn't play Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, CoD, Battlefield, XCOM and so on.
People benefit from the grind by getting entertainment. Some also use those games as a social tool (prime example being any MMO game) to talk to people. Clan members and such.
To an extent any review will give you an understanding of the game and whether it would make you interested or not. However, it'll never be a complete substitute for any game. Even if it really is incredibly in-depth. For example, one is interactive, the other isn't.
I played Warframe 2 years ago or so and it wasn't P2W in my eyes. I mean, of course if you wanted perfect builds and such, then you'd have to pay, but you'd do fine without the power. It's not a perfect monetization system in any way, but it's free, so I can tolerate that to an extent.
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You'd be surprised how many people play 'unlock shit' games like CoD or BF just to grind up the levels, without actually being a fan of the gameplay.
Same goes for MOBAs.
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Well, that just proves my point. They still get something out of it.
In your case, it's the dopamine rush that you get for levelling up and the satisfaction of getting stuff.
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Well, Risen 1 and Dungeon Siege 2 got me hooked up
Gothic games are cool, if you get x GB of patches and graphics mods
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Yeah, Risen 1 was a huge surprise for me. I started it up randomly, but I never expected to enjoy it as much. Though, the fun kind of died out once Chapter 2 started. It also diminished when I found out there was a quest map... It just became boring to look at a marker since you'd need to pause the game and navigate the menus each time.
For me, it's either convenient quest markers or none at all. :D
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I wonder if the ingame money and purchases would trigger trading cards. I would love to have a set for this game due to being a Super Hero comic fan. Never even heard of this game admittedly.
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thanks for the idea of buying a card pack lol. got a deadpool so doubled my money since deadpool card is apparently rare or something
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+1 to wondering this... wouldn't be a bad thing to try it then.
Otherwise it seems like a waste just to play it for 6 weeks.
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i knew this was going to happen, but i thought the game wouldn't last even 1 year.
i played it like crazy for ~4 months and abandoned it because it looked like a 1999 arpg. the only thing """new""" thing it introduced was a merge with mmo stuff.
oh and gazillion with a terrible approach to community/ingame moderation. <_<
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Sad to see it go, guess now ill have to stick to PoE.
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reminds me of the time when i used to play marvel avengers on facebook .. collected all heroes and stuff until they got shut down as well. :(
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Always sad to see games die. You will be missed even though I never played you :(
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Well, all these multiplayer-only games as MMOs will die eventually, and it's actually funny to think about it, as they literally shut down the server so you'll never be able to play again, like some virtual euthanasia. Yet, somehow Ultima Online still lives on 20 years later!
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Game was going downhill anyway, then had a steep dive into the crapper after things got dumbed down for the console release.
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For that pole: Image Comics. Back when I used to buy comics the majority came from them; Spawn, The Darkness, Witchblade, Weapon Zero, Ripclaw, Savage Dragon, Youngblood, etc.
The "Top Cow" brand (used by their partner studio) is actually better known these days I think.
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Anyone know if a month and a half is enough time to grind through all the achievements?
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Probably no. It takes a very long time to gett every hero to lvl 60 and i can see that only arround 0,5% have achieved that.
It was a game that wanted to make money and forces you to play a long time (sothat players wont stop playing after 1 month and not spending more money).
EDIT: On the other hand. Maybe if you focus on buying special items to upgrade the right heroes. Not so sure about it
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I liked the game but stopped playing because I didn't like it being multiplayer, and random groups of people running around and killing stuff I wanted to kill ;_;
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Wasted a lot of time for the game before the changes to Omega. Spent a few money on it. One of the biggest regrets for me.
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People may not realize it, but the backgrounds/emotes/cards will probably get delisted from the market too. I grabbed the two backgrounds I wanted just in case, since they actually look pretty decent using the artwork showcase trick, and I like marvel. This being a F2P game, it may be harder to find people with cards down the line since you had to pay for stuff to get cards to drop.
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that's a brilliant idea, I just did that myself, bought the .25 cent one I was missing, already unlocked the rare one back when I completed all the badges..
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Is it not possible to create local or fan server...? :/
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These companies should be forced to release server side software if and when they close down their servers.
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I actually remember playing this a long time ago and having reasonable fun with it. It's a shame that they are closing down and since it was a forced decision and they had further development plans this makes matters even worse.
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I wonder how it survived this long.
I gave it a try considering how its being shut down and opened up the store locked itens...
I couldn't bare the bore of the first moments. Most heroes felt the same and there are way better(and quicker) ways to tutorial; How braindead the tutorial and starting difficulty is im mad i wasted my time doing it. If theres meat, challenge or actual depth to it its idn how many hours in wich by definition is the worst of design flaws.
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You may want to get your last minute playtime in a little sooner, latest news says game's gone before the weekend:
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I kinda wanna log in one last time and stay logged on when the servers are killed. I've never actually seen a game die before.
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I can think of a few others I would prefer becoming, but I'm good with that I guess.
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I tried doing that with Trinium Wars when it got shut down. I stayed logged in at the time that they said the servers would be shut down, but nothing happened. There weren't a lot of people playing it anyway, but it dropped to just me, left alone in in an abandoned MMO world. It was sort of cool, sort of creepy, but also anticlimactic.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/226320/Marvel_Heroes_Omega/
For the final
6 weeks2 days before the game closes its doors, the devs are making all purchasable content in the game FREE.Yes, it was already F2P, but now you can experience the game like a whale who has infinite money to spend on boosts, pets, and trying out all the nifty characters and costumes... whee!
Just a note, as they couldn't actually lower costs to 0, they are instead giving all users $10 of in game currency every day and lowering all content costs to $0.50 - so you do have a 20 item limit per day (though those 20 items could be bundles of 50 items each).
There's a whole backstory and much drama over the situation (the developers have been delaying a huge patch for PC for a couple years, putting most money/time toward console development, now Disney shutting them down for...reasons) - but hey, newcomers are welcome to ignore all that.
If you like ARPGs and/or Marvel, enjoy getting thousands of dollars of imaginary content for free over the holiday season!
(11/22) IMPORTANT UPDATE : 11/24 is end date now, NOT 12/31!
The dev company apparently 'announced' (internally leaked) that all employees were let go and the game is actually closing in two days instead of the original six weeks.... game's done on Friday, 11/24.
Yup, that happened.
(11/25) Latest Update: Servers are still up... for unknown reasons and for unknown time.
Supposedly, the company is now a ghost-cubicle-town, so the game might stay up until those in charge can figure out who's still around to flip the server switch to 'off'.
(11/27) FINAL UPDATE: Game is officially donezo.
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