Will you buy this?
I was missing 7 games so I bought it. Good bundle.
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Did you buy the bundle because you did not have the games merely or because you will play those games? This question has haunted me long enough to stop buying bundles completely. I thought I had gotten addicted to cards and collecting so stopped.
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Both. If there are like 5-7 games I didn't own I almost always want to play at least 1-2 of them. Plus I'm also a collector and I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Nothing wrong. Collecting is personal. I am faced with questions in personal capacity these days why i would buy games.
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Let's keep the forums clean and dont open the same thread several times
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/OPklI/indiegala-monday-motivation-bundle
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Let's honor Rachel and make threads with the correct chart format and the relevant information.
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You can still post it as a comment in the post that was created half an hour before yours
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Formatting aside, there's a userscript that shows if you already own a game by highlighting the chart in different colors, the RaChart Enhancer. Apparently that script only works if the author of the thread has been whitelisted in the script. Devotee already is, which is why it would make sense for him (or another one of the whitelisted authors) to post the thread. On the other hand it puts quite a lot of responsibility on the whitelisted bundlethread authors because they would pretty much have to be online 24/7 because people are used to Rachel's high standards and almost instand bundlethreads and might cause a few double posts.
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I would have no problem with more people being whitelisted in the script, as long as those who did post took on the responsibility of making a chart in the useful format that Rachel started. I think one solution is that the formatting template and scripts for making that chart need to be shared more widely, so that if someone wants to help, they can jump in head first but do it the right way.
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I don't understand the sense of keeping a whitelist for that, but whatever.... What you are saying is that only people in that list can create posts about bundles, right?
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I'm no programmer but apparently the reason is to avoid abuse in case somebody posts a thread with fake information but Sighery already said he's considering dropping that check so the script processes every thread that has a chart.
I personally don't use that script so I'm not even sure how relevant it is, I was just explaining why we should probably ignore the occasional double post for now until people have figured out how to keep this going.
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No, anyone can create a post about a bundle, but only posts by whitelisted authors will work with the RaChart script that adds highlighting for owned games.
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Let's honor Rachel
seriously!?
is she dead? honor?
damn, you are taking this thread making a bit too seriously
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I'm glad you missed the thread where I talk about carry on Rachel's legacy :D :D :D
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I prefer devotee's thread, because it's more complete, honestly.
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it's amazing how the guy had to close his thread because of this.
but yes people, keep convincing yourselves how nice you are, and how generous sg is.
acting like this only shows you do this to get attention, not helping others.
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"Had to"? I don't see anybody bullying him there though I see one person crying, and one not being too thoughtful in choice of words, but other than that it just seems like two threads, with different information, on the same topic. I don't see what's wrong (just want to understand).
Also, Devotee might be wrong saying "correct format", but I don't think it was very proper for perrolijo to try to police in such a manner in the first place, so maybe a bit of bite is understandable?
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after knowing what happened every single time when someone else than rachel posted a bundle thread, no, no understanding.
let's no repeat history.
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If someone bullies, it's the bully's fault, not the person who made the thread or any other thread. So although I understand the frustration, I'm not sure I get the point. It's not Devotee's fault that the person closed his/her thread imo.
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before Rachel threads the bundle thread was the main one.
there is no "correct format"
and it shouldn't be right to make the other user to close his thread, cause Mr devotee said so.
and perr wasn't policing.
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I agree there is no correct format, as I have already said. But who made the other user close the thread? I don't see devotee or anyone else putting pressure in that thread.
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the pressure is here. it doesn't matter
plus, you never know if someone hasn't posted in one of his old GA.
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So, you're saying that your attitude (cause Mr Devotee said so) is not a form of pressure, too? Seems legit.
I never said a word on the other thread, in fact I added the creator of it to the "Thank you" list, I never intended him to close his thread. As raziel88, it's the bully's fault, not the victim's.
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is not a form of pressure
when and where did i say that?
yes, i pressure you to not pressure other people. i find that legit,
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yes, i pressure you to not pressure other people. i find that legit,
B-b-b-but I didn't pressure anyone. I didn't call anyone "Mr", like I didn't tell anyone that "acting like this only shows you do this to get attention, not helping others".
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Maybe we need to look at this another way, if 5 users all decide to start doing bundle threads in the absence of Rachel, would you want 5 new threads every bundle, multiple times a day, especially when only one author is really the preferred one?
All the more power that the other user can keep his thread open and let this be a contest to see who should fill the shoes of Rachel, but we really don't need multiple people filling that role.
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yes!
variety and diversity are good things.
the users who open the bundle threads later should post as a comment in the first one. have some humility.
this is not a popularity contest. there is no right or wrong way.
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Unfortunately with the way RaChart script is written, the creator of the thread must be whitelisted with the program to get the script to color in the table, so having multiple thread starters would not work well as the program currently is, assuming the thread starter even decides to do a table in the first place.
I like devotee's new additions to the charts and he seems to be willing to post these daily and fairly quickly. He has my vote, not because of popularity as you imply, but because of the merits of his threads.
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i know.
but you are just proving my point about devotee... popularity contest or not.
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I'm not really in the mood to enter into a debate and read all you two have been posting
good call
as for the rest, why must there be only one thread? and why must it be devotee one?
Let's honor Rachel and make threads with the correct chart format and the relevant information.
this really gets to me...
anyway, i've stoped arguing. thank you sighery. i truly believe you mean only well.
maybe even devotee, but i can't ignore that line.
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I don't want popularity and I don't want votes and I'd be better by spending my time in other useful things instead of this. But hey, keep bashing me.
This is not a popularity contest but it's not a speed contest either.
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so spend them.
you make big announcements and talk about honor?
sounds like middle ages to me
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It seems people can't understand what we're doing here.
if 5 users all decide to start doing bundle threads
I wish! We want to give everyone access to the tools to make a proper bundle thread, so anyone can do a thread like the one I made. It's all explained in Sighery's thread and the comments there.
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We understand, the problem is your assumption there is a "correct" or "proper" way to do things.
There's a thousand ways of doing everything, to exclude others because they don't use a popular script is a little unfair.
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to exclude others because they don't use a popular script is a little unfair.
That's why our purpose is to give EVERYONE the tools to easily made a "proper" thread if they want to. It's nothing more than a template with the code used in our posts and the script (you can also fill the chart manually if you don't want/can't use the script, there'll be a chart template so you just have to copy paste it and replace the relevant information for each row).
If there's a lot of users interested in helping with bundle threads, let's coordinate them. I have no intention of monopolizing this. The more people volunteering, the quicker the threads will be created. If we coordinate ourselves using a Steam discussion in a group, it's as easy as leaving a comment there saying "Hey, new bundlestars bundle! I'll take care of the thread myself, I'm available", everyone is notified and there's no race to see who does it first, or duplicate threads. Or just a "There's a new IG bundle, but I can't do the thread myself because I have to go". Someone else can reply and "call dibs" on it. The rest won't have to worry about making a thread, and nobody will make two threads. That's our goal.
And, of course, anyone is welcome to help there. You (or anyone else bashing me in this thread for wanting fame and populatrity) can hop in if (they) you want.
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see, here is the problem.
you said "i'm taking over the thread" made yourself an easy target.
yes, i for one don't like Rachart enhnacer, nor all the useless green stuff.
no, didn't liked it ever.
i much prefer Sighery bundlestar threads. which are almost the same.
i liked rach threads when they were simple. link to the site and to the games.
the concept of there must be order unity bla bla cause you (plural) decided so, annoys me.
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yes, i for one don't like Rachart enhnacer, nor all the useless green stuff.
no, didn't liked it ever.i much prefer Sighery bundlestar threads. which are almost the same.
I don't get it. You do realize that Rachel's and Sighery's posts are EXACTLY, not almost, the same, don't you? Up to the last "|" in the chart code.
the concept of there must be order unity bla bla cause you (plural) decided so, annoys me.
Let there be anarchy, then. I will continue to make my bundle threads even if someone has already started one with little information. A "duplicate" thread won't hurt anyone, and we'll avoid all the order and unity stuff.
EDIT: I forgot to say that I didn't really understood this bit:
you said "i'm taking over the thread" made yourself an easy target.
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Let's honor Rachel and make threads with the correct chart format and the relevant information.
this sums everything you ever did.
you forget why i even posted that. i had no intention to fight with you.
even disliking the threads. but that line still annoys tremendously. and i believe it shows exactly what you think.
i won't comment again on this thread. you can comment and i will read (so does anyone else)
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A major problem here is the huge defensive you are on. I'm not saying you are trying to monopolise for personal gain.
However you are saying there is a right and wrong way to do something which has no right or wrong way.
Its as simple as just carry on doing what you are doing, form a group if you'd like and keep up the good work. However that should no exclude anyone else from doing a separate bundle thread in a different manner.
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I think my point may have been misconstrued as argumentative when thats not how it was intended so I'm going to post an additional revised post.
Personally I have no use for RaCharts, so a single post to the bundle site saying "new bundle up" is sufficient for my purposes. Anything other than that is just different formatting or information I do not need. Does that mean no one finds it useful? Of course not.
My issue here is the percieved necessity of RaCharts and anything that doesn't use them is somehow less worthy. In my example a post after 20 seconds with a link followed 30 minutes later with a separate RaChart is just as useful. So i'm failing to see why it needs to be centralised. This entire discussion could be avoided if you and any groups just titled your thread "...with RaChart". Eventually people would probably defer to your threads anyway as they would be more popular.
Any other discussion in SG's current climate is inviting hate. It worked before and Rachels method ended up being the one which succeeded due to quality, I don't see why this can't be replicated again without drama. Carry on doing what you are doing, you are doing a good job carrying on the format its useful. However thats not to say no one else can post in any other way they fancy. At the end of the day, people are only trying to help.
Hope that clears up any perceived animosity towards you.
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Hope that clears up any perceived animosity towards you.
I didn't perceived any animosity towards me from you. It's hard to put things in words in a forum and reading one thing might make it sound like defensive when it's not.
In my example a post after 20 seconds with a link followed 30 minutes later with a separate RaChart is just as useful.
I totally agree with you here, in the same way that if someone posts another bundle thread 30 minutes after mine, I wouldn't have said anything to that user.
So i'm failing to see why it needs to be centralised.
I don't want to centralize it either. What we are saying is:
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If there's a group of people who would love to help making bundle threads using Rachel's format, they're more than welcome to join us. We can give them the tools to do so.
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If anyone else wants to create another thread, they are completely free to do so. I'm not saying that "we" should be the only ones who post bundle threads.
However thats not to say no one else can post in any other way they fancy. At the end of the day, people are only trying to help.
Correct! And if that someone else asks us for the tools to make his threads Rachel-alike, we'll offer him our help. And if he wants to do it in any other style, no one is saying he can't. But I honestly think that if we give people a template that you can just copy and paste, and fill with the needed information is making their life easier too. Why would someone make a bundle thread from scratch when he can copy-paste a template and have almost all the job done? And of course, that doesn't mean he shall be forced to use that template, as I said.
I have more points in common with your arguments than you think :)
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acting like this only shows you do this to get attention, not helping others.
Because my only purpose in life is doing bundle threads. Yep.
If you want I can give you a template of the code used in our posts, and the script to generate the RaChart. Are you willing to help by using them to make the thread when we are not around? You're more than welcome.
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Well, I appreciate someone stepping up and keeping anarchy and nonsensical useless bundle threads from forming. It seems there will always be a perpetual amount of people who cry "bully" after making one bundle thread with no intent of doing it again in the future, just for the attention and drama and when they get theirs chastised for not even including the chart which has become a standard here, and is the preferred method of doing a bundle thread, crying about it.
I can clearly see why Rachel has left, it's always a few bad apples that want the attention and drama that spoil it for the 99% of people who have no objection to deferring to her threads and leaving her to make them and not stepping on her toes. It's a shame that people like TinyPurple just want the drama and feel the entitlement of being allowed to make threads whenever it pleases them and ignoring the standards that people have clearly said they prefer.
Anyways, thanks again for doing this one at least.
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If you want I can give you a template of the code used in our posts, and the script to generate the RaChart.
see, that's exactly what sillyscream, tiny and i have been complaining about. why should people follow a format like it's the only way to post bundles here?
i don't see anyone policing how puzzles should be posted, or how trains should be made.
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You haven't answered my question.
Anyway, I'm not saying you should follow a format. I'm saying that if you want to help and make bundle threads and you want them to look like Rachel's I can give you the tools to easily do it. I'm not saying you must use it. You can do whatever you want, I couldn't care less.
Some people say it's not ok to duplicate threads, other people say it would be nice to have 5 people doing bundle threads in different formats (so 5 threads for each bundle), you say that people can make a thread but that they can use whatever format they like, and I agree. So if I make a new thread for a bundle with a chart, please leave me alone instead of saying I do it for glory and fame.
Again, I hope we could be multiple people so I'm not the only one who posts Rachart-alike threads.
i don't see anyone policing how puzzles should be posted, or how trains should be made.
I never said that, I just said I'l be posting bundle threads following Rachel's format. Anyone else can make threads as they wish, I'm not going to stop anyone from doing so!
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Well, since there are people that claims that anyone can make bundle threads, even if there's already 4 threads for a particular bundle, I don't see why I should close my thread.
People should post them however they want to and if there's one posted already, then it's fine like that.
FFS, can you tell me when did I say otherwise? I NEVER told anyone to close their threads.
what can you expect from users who need autojoin bots and thank bots
I've never used those, I don't know what you're talking about.
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Having multiple threads about one and the same bundle would rather be spam and that should be avoided.
That's your opinion, other users have expressed the need of total liberty when it comes to make bundle threads.
by claiming that this one is with the "correct chart format" ,therefore the better one, you have caused that the other one was closed
I guess my choice of words was not the best, but I didn't cause anything. If the other user closed his thread it's because he chose too, I didn't tell him anything, nor I commented anything on his thread. I understand what you are implying, but I'm not at fault here.
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Count me in as well, I see this imaginary issue as ridiculous and the whole discussion as totally pointless.
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Chill the Piro and Reptilian Rebellion were both bundled already; otherwise looks good. Thanks for the chart!
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Damn, I didn't pay attention to Count von Count when I was a child... Fixed, thanks!
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Thank you! Wow, I don't own any of the games, and the games seem to be quite nice. I'm forced to buy this.
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Good MilleBundle™ type, but I cannot see anything that would even warrant a group buy.
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Yeah, I love The Thing, so JCR interests me even with the bad reviews.. I already own Sandmason and Parallels though, so the rest doesn't interest me much
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Missing 7, so I guess so! But quality wise nothing tooooo interesting.
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Thanks for keeping Rachel's topics going ! You are one of the SG MVP =)
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Thanks for chart
Random key bump!
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You can get it for around 1.5$ if you'll buy one via Group Buys
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great poll options :P, great job on the formatting as well.
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Sneak Thief looks quite interesting. Might buy the bundle for that and give the rest away.
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Curious about Sneak Thief, but I'm not going to buy the 2nd tier just for that one.
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indiegala just went very NSFW in their new bundle !!!
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Wondering why I'm not Rachel? More information here.
Sighery has enhanced the RaChart™ format a bit, now the cards "heart" will link to Steam Card Exchange's showcase, and the bundled count will link to the Is There Any Deal page for the game (only if bundled is not zero).
Monday Motivation Bundle #5!
$1 for Tier 1,
$2.99 (until price increase)$3.49 for Tier 2. Total of 11 gamesPrice increase on September 12 (please check your timers for ending times adjusted to your specific region)
HH: $4.36 (last HH was on Sept.19)
$1.00
$2.99$3.49Retail: $49.89
CV: ~7.50
Wondering what games you already own from this bundle? There's an extension/ UserScript for that! It's called the RaChart™ Enhancer, created by our fellow SG member Sighery!
For more information and to Download, please click here for the RaChart™ Enhancer!
Thanks Rachel. Thanks Sighery. Thanks Surfpup.
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