My RAM setup (it's in a laptop):
2 slots,
1 used: single channel DDR3 (4GB) @665MHz
1 free

My question is, should I buy a couple of 4GB DDR3 sticks @1333MHz? Would I notice a big difference because of the extra speed? I mean the extra 4gigs will make a difference of course, but is it worth buying the extra speed? Otherwise I could just get one more 4GB stick @665MHz, would save some cash :P

Also, would the mobo restrict the extra RAM speed at all? Don't know much about RAM speeds xD

Edit

So apparently since I used Speccy, it divided my RAM speed in two for whatever reason, so I infact already have 1333MHz RAM

So I'll just get one more 1333MHz stick :)

Laptop specs (for those who wanted them)

Laptop: Hewlett Packard DV6-6150 (SL edition)
CPU: Intel i5 2410M (quad core) @2.3GHz
RAM: 1 out of 2 slots used: 4GB DDR3 @1333MHz
GPU: HD6770M
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard 3388
HDD: 500GB 7200RPM
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP1

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Higher Mhz speed, means that the RAM is faster but to know if your mobo supports that speed or not you have to check on its website or manual.

Tell us the mobo model.

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Have updated OP :)

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After 8 GB of ram you will not be able to find any difference... so i think better if you buy a 4GB stick 665..

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Apart from in video editing afaik.

But I don't intend to go above 8GB

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/239140/?snr=1_4_4__105_2

See the recommended, perhaps you should go for higher speed if you plan on not upgrading for a couple of years!

I made a build 3 weeks ago and made a top nodge gaming computer, i was originally going for 8GB ram but i changed my mind and picked 16GB, because you know, i was thinking a little ahead of time and games within 3 years or so might require alot more ram than the ones we have today, that said 16GB should work quite a punch, even though i only need 8GB right now for all of the games i have on ultra. I did the samething with my gpu/cpu, bought higher quality ones so that they could last at least 5 years without requiring an upgrade. My computer hardly goes over 40% of it's capability right now playing games such as bioshock infinite on ultra, i guess i made the right choices xD

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Exactly, not more than 8GB :P
Oh I don't doubt that future games will need more RAM, that much is evident :)

As for the game, I am looking forward to it, meet the minimum but not the required for now, but since I've got a year or so before release I have a little time, I'll be building myself a better desktop eventually :D

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Which of the 13 songs lololol

11 years ago
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You feeling ok?

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if you can notice the difference between something lasting 1ms and 2ms, then maybe, but just maybe, you will notice the difference between 665Mhz and 1333Mhz RAM. But tbh, buy RAM that's identical to the one you're currently using, sometimes different RAM modules can cause silly problems.

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Thanks for the advice, guess I won't mind about the speed then :)

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RAM speed is only noticable in specific syntetic RAM benchmarks. In normal use, including games, the difference is ~1% (effectively none).

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Awesome, won't bother about the speed then :)

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Couldn't find anything about HP 3388 laptop motherboard. Can you say what laptop model that is?

As for RAM speed, I think that buying one 1333MHz stick would work well. It will use the lower speed, but you'll get some benefit from having 8GB and if the chipset supports dual channel RAM (which I imagine it does) you'll also get double the bandwidth.

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Looking at the laptop specs, I think that people are right, it's already a 1333MHz stick. So just add another one. You should get some benefit from using dual channel memory.

11 years ago
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Yep, I'll do that. Thanks ET3D :D

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No it wouldn't you already have 1333. DDR double data rate 665 * 2 β‰ˆ 1333

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Awesome :D

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lolz @ur fail

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I don't think you should mix RAM with different speeds since it will run only at the slower clock, but someone else might know better

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We've established it's in fact already at 1333MHz :)

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So pointless thread is pointless?

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Nope, thread is solved, will be closing once there's no more discussion :)

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There's no such thing as DDR3 665Mhz. You're misreading something somewhere. DDR3 comes in 1066, 1333 and for the new Ivybridge - 1600Mhz.

I highly recommend you seek advice from someone you know that knows computers rather than polling a forum of people that don't appear to know anything about computer hardware, you'll just end up losing out or wasting time.

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See comments, the 665MHz is one of the two data rates for the sticks, so total rate is 1333 :)

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Oh, and better check what RAM speeds your CPU(!) supports. Nowadays, mobos ain't the restricting factor anymore.

And like the others said already, its not that much about the speed, even the latencies are not that important for a "casual" gamer. Just make sure you buy two identical RAM sticks instead of using 2 different ones or at least make sure, both Ram sticks have the same stats (clock speed, latencies, voltage). And yes, you already have 1333mhz, like SOGOR said.

The question is, would it even be worth it? I haven't seen any specs of the SL edition, so you may just post it. If you have that i5 M2410, it only supports 1066 or 1333 mhz RAM, so you wouldn't have to think about higher clocked RAM.

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Since I already have it, my CPU would already support it (right?).

But that's a fair point on the same latencies and voltage, how would I find out those readings for my current RAM? Speccy would be able to tell me right?

Specs will be posted in a sec :)

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Ok, the CL is 9 clocks, how would I find out the voltage? Speccy doesn't say

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Look for it under the SPD tab, it works this way in CPU-Z.

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Ok, 1.5v, does the make matter? My current RAM is Samsung, does that mean I have to get another stick by Samsung?

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I don't think you have to buy a Samsung RAM. Just make sure it has the same stats, at least clock speed, voltage and the major latencies.

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DDR3 1333 MHz is supported from what i read. So if you already have 1 stick then match the one & you will be good. ~665MHz = 1333MHz, one is real clock the other is effective clock. You also need to find out what CL on your current memory is(i am guessing 9 or 8, but you need to make sure).
Download CPU-Z & with that program you get more info & from there it will be easy.

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Speccy will know, I'll check that when I'm next on my laptop :)

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Here's a screenshot
It says my CL is 9 clocks (good/bad?)

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CL9 is normal,If you want to know the voltages & the exact type of ram use CPU-z(http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html).
There is a difference you would notice in 1333HMz and 1600MHz, but if higher speeds are not supported then there is no point in getting faster ram. In games there is no difference, but in windows & using some programs I would say it is.

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Found the voltage: 1.5v, should the RAM I get be the same make as my current RAM (Samsung)?

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More ram is always better if your system can handle it. From what I read your system should be able to see and use that extra 4 gigs of ram.

With my desktop system, I used 4 gigs of ram with 64bit windows 7 ultimate and then I used 8 gigs of ram and I noticed a difference. Programs opened a little faster, other programs ran through things faster.

The more ram you have, the less caching to hard drive the system has to do which speeds things up.

If your system can handle 1333 ram, then yes go for it. In general the extra speed will help things that run more in ram.

As long as you have a 64bit OS the full 8 gigs will be able to be used.

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I don't have any doubts the extra RAM will help, I was just wondering about the speeds :)

And yep, I've got a 64bit OS, I'll add that to the specs

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Bah. I thought this was going to be a discussion comparing ewes-per-hour data...

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Wouldn't that be EPH? :P

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Well, I measure my prize RAM's prowess in ewes-per-minute, but he's a bad, bad boy...

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I'm still training my own to be honest, haven't got him past that deadly 12 per hour mark

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RAM speeds are at the point of overclocked Processors. Any difference is due to some new technology and not speeds. Though if you find something like 3333MHz...

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?

But my CPU (not overclocked) is clocked at 2.3GHz, which =2300MHz, which is > 1333MHz
...so I don't understand how my RAM is at the point of an overclocked CPU...

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Speed makes no difference at this point. Like driving the speed limit without getting the cops to chase you. All you can do now is get more RAM or a car that gets better mileage.

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Ah ok :)

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You probably used Speccy or similar software to check the RAM, it for some reason divides the speed into two (possibly because you have 2 channels / slots or whatnot), so you already have 1333 MHz RAM. And no, difference isn't very significant.

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Yes, I did use Speccy :)

Good to know, guess I'll just get one extra stick then :)

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That would probably be your best choice, especially if you also have integrated graphics that share memory with RAM.

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Dedicated HD6770M :D (2GB iirc)

-EDIT-
It is 2GB

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It's probably a "max" of 2048 MB, like most integrated chips, and uses a certain percentage of your RAM depending on how much you have. You probably won't notice much difference, except on higher resolutions, since your chip already seems quite powerful.

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Ah yes, that's probably true. So my added RAM would actually induce quite a noticeable improvement for fps in games? Yay :D

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Afaik RAM helps play in higher resolutions, so if your laptop is able to pull games at mid/high settings on lower resolutions at the moment, the extra RAM should allow you to raise the resolution without compromising the FPS you had using a lower one.

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Always play at max resolution (1366x768), so looks like I won't be benefitting there :/

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Who knows, you might gain a few frames in some games, but generally core clocks & speeds are responsible for performance gains. Also make sure to keep your drivers up to date, it may not seem like a big deal, but it can easily increase your performance (typically in newer games) by as much as 15-25%.

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Ah feck xD

Dw, check drivers every 2 weeks xD Wishful thinking I guess :P

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HD6770M isn't an integrated chip. It has it's own memory

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DDR, Double Data Rate

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Thanks, to be honest I didn't know what the abreviation stood for. Anyway, the frequency is not divided up on any store pages etc. so why confuse people by doing so in a piece of software?

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I didn't know either (visibly), and gotta agree with you there xD

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fastest and most is an 8gb stick of 1600mhz ram for a modern laptop(most likely for gaming ones)?

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Nothing to do with the thread though ;)

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DDR3 = Double Data Rate 3, meaning it pulses on the rising and falling edges of a clock cycle. Speccy only checks individual clock cycles, so it only reports half the speed.

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Oh right, that explains it, thank you :)

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RAMS are cheap now so go ahead for da speed!

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Hehe :D

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example: CL5 = 5-5-5-18-23-3

(CL5 = CL-TRCD-TRP-TRAS-TRC-TRRD)

CL: 5

TRCD: 5

TRP: 5

TRAS: 18

TRC: 23

TRRD: 3

Voltage 1.8V

This is just an example of how the timings are to be set manually.

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Thanks for the example...?

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No, you won't really notice, so just grab 1 stick, but preferably the same model, or at least manufacturer, for compatibility...

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Closed 11 years ago by ArmadX.