Not afraid. I have a mother 60+ and granddad 80+ though.
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News from Latvia - yesterday government declared state of emergency. Canceling events with over 200 attendees. Schools have been closed and teachers have to continue their work over internet.
I work in university (not as a lecturer) and everyone has to keep on working as usual. Its just that students are sent home to lower the risk of getting infected.
Further on its just me trowing in my two cents at all this :
Personally I am not afraid of the virus per say, but I think this is good what has been done. We have 16 confirmed cases, but I'm happy something is done to limit the spread. Even if it turns out not to be deadly, better be safe then sorry.
People are starting to buy food in quantities and some of the shelves are empty already and there is good amount of people who keep on going on about that "its all a conspiracy" and "covid is nothing, flu is more serious" as well.. And I think both of these groups are equally creating panic. I dont understand why cant people just stay neutral and just keep safe and keep on going on with their days. Stupidity is the only name that comes to mind with these preppers as much as it comes to mind with deniers..
As much as its important so keep ourselves healthy, its as important keeping other people who might react to the virus more severely healthy. So even if I my health is fine and I might not be affected much, I wouldnt want to transmit it to someone with respiratory problems or some older person.
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"Canceling events with over 200 attendees" Well, now we know, that corona dies if there are less than 200 people around.
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As an update from Latvia and answer to your comment about 200 people - now government said that ALL organized events are cancelled regardless of number of attendees, and unorganized events and gatherings can happen with up to 50 people.
But whats the point when most of the country still think its some kind of conspiracy and go to shopping malls and walk around and openly talk about how government is stupid and how all this is bullshit and so on.
Just now I read news article how some kind of wannabe celebrity from Latvia has said that he doesnt care about "this government created foolness" and it wont stop him and his wife from traveling the world (they posted this while being in France I think).. So at this point it really becomes pointless when people are this clueless and arrogant..
As a side note - Ive noticed its usually uneducated and low-level position workers who complain about this and say its all government created bullshit.. Not to offend anyone - but when you have problems even with formulating a sentence then maybe its not really your place to make such statements about government level decisions. I love how they think they know better then highly educated scientists and somehow they dont even bother with actually researching bullshit they spout. Its just some post on facebook some 40 year old boomer posted without any reference and now somehow everyone shares that and believes its true.. I suppose simple minds take the simplest ways - its easier to say its government bullshit instead of looking at it critically and analyzing which sources are correct and which sources should be ignored (regarding news) and taking the middle road between panicking and being ignorant
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"But whats the point when most of the country still think its some kind of conspiracy and go to shopping malls and walk around and openly talk about how government is stupid and how all this is bullshit and so on."
Well. Yes it's bullshit. Because that's stupid. Does people stop going to work? Does they work in biohazard suits? No. So there are lot of chances to get corona, except malls and meetings. And avoid malls and meetings even doesn't make chances to get corona less.
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Even so I think these preventative measures are correct. Universities for example and big events usually gather huge numbers of people at one place. That means you could potentially infect several hundred people at the same time and that is exactly what we are trying to evade.
Problem starts with individuals who dont think its serious and even after visiting infected countries happily walk around knowingly infecting other people because they think its not serious. So we have evaded mass infections as best as we can as a group. But problems start at individual level. Some friends of mine came back from vacation from Tenerife. They feel fine but they still said they will stay at home just to be safe and work from home. That is the correct response, not going on facebook and spouting bullshit and walking around in public places..
In my workplace we dont have any meetings with people from outside and we dont do handshakes and we wash hands and use sanitizers more often... Its not that difficult.. I agree we cant evade going to malls, but maybe dont choose this time to do your yearly shopping for clothes that take 4 hours of walking in crowded malls.. What limits you from going in and out just grabbing what you need?. Yes, you still have a chance to catch the virus, but its less likely then if we didnt take any precautions. And I think if we did our individual duty by being safe and clean we could potentially limit the virus to controllable rate.
Its really the problem of stupidity of individuals that panicking has started - government cancels public events to limit spread of the virus - how that translated to "lets buy all the rice and toilet paper and get crazy" I'll never understand.
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"In my workplace we dont have any meetings with people from outside and we dont do handshakes and we wash hands and use sanitizers more often"
So, are you sure, that there are no infected people between your coworkers? That other workplaces do same?
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Of course I dont. Its all too possible that theres already an infected person here.
But thats just another great reason for canceling meetings and studies. If, lets say, I am infected and would have gone to capital city to a meeting I had planned I would have passed it on to some other company.. Or if some lecturer has it he would give it to students that he has contact with and then thats more then 10 people who go home and potentially could infect grandparents and parents
So all in all - even if we have the virus now, we arent infecting other people and vice versa. Thats why I think these preventative measures are a good thing. Yes - theres still the chance to pass it to your own family who can give it further but no one is denying the virus will spread.. Its all about decreasing the rate of which it infects others
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"we arent infecting other people" No, you are. While you go home, While you go at work. In the bus/train/etc. The real measure only one - complete quarantine for all people, who doesn't approved, as uninfected. But it's not real, of course.
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Just to clarify. Those are not preppers. That's just panic buying. Preppers by definition are people who already have what they need, precisely because they understand that panic buyers will strip store shelves in a perceived crisis. But I agree, panic buying is not very smart, it tends to snowball and leaves people who need basic goods without access and in the present case is dangerous as it fills markets with people sharing the same air, increasing chances of cross infection.
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Prepared public transport vehicle driver from Hungary:
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It's interesting how Lugum tried to have a serious convo with us here and literally the first few commenters are all wearing tin foil hats.
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And the obvious bickering part, like in any discussion here. :p https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/yNMtjCS
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I just love the guy who tells us that governments are killing people who know too much just like him and cover it up by using the pandemic.
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How has the number of deaths gone from 4700 to 3,337 since last night?
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There was 1333 visual glitches, they were patched out today
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Here is another site to compare... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Really UK has not taken any action against coronavirus trasmission yet?
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Schools, restaurants, sporting events are still open here too in the Netherlands, only thing we got is no events anymore with more then 100 people (yet they keep schools open...) and what about public transport or just any supermarket on a Friday/saturday.
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The death rate from seasonal flu (Influenza/H1N1) is typically around 0.1%. Researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China and 3.4% around the world.If that's wasn't enough, the death rate for people 70-80yo (5%) and people over 80 (10%) are way above than the regular flu (0-60yo people with corona have a 0.2-1% chance of dying, slightly above regular flu) Pre-existing conditions like cancer, cardiovascular diseases and diabetes also raise the chance of dying considerably and I"m not even talking about overcrowding ICUs, which is already happening all over Italy...
So please, stop trying minimize the impact of corona. It's way more dangerous than the flu. Don't believe in some fake news. The worst is yet to come.
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At least here, media remembers people they should get vaccinated if they're on a group of risk (or live with someone). Coronavirus doesn't even have a vaccine yet, and it spreads more easily than regular flu, too, on top of being more deadly.
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Remember that the main issue in a pandemic isn't the illness itself but emergency services being utterly drowned by those afflicted. As depressing as this sounds, emergency services would much prefer a panic over a mass outbreak. People fail to consider that while panics cause shortages, so do mass outbreaks, except mass outbreaks are often much worse in scale and scope than panics and also clog up emergency services. Be sufficiently worried but for the love of god, stop trying to pretend that this is nothing. The threat is very real and you are not making this easier on anyone.
This is the same issue I had at the start when people took umbrage with the 3.4% statistic claiming that it should be lower, somewhere around ~1%, to better reflect the 'actual number of infected.' Doctors don't count the possibly infected and use that for actual data. The 3.4% statistic is an empirical value that doctors and hospitals can actually use to gauge their reaction to the pandemic. The ~1% is a complete guesstimate that only 'responsible' journalism pedants push around despite the guesstimate actively confusing medical personnel. There is a massive difference between a hospital expecting 1% mortality and 2% mortality, namely that the latter needs twice as many ICU units as the former. Stop trying to pressure the media into giving functionally useless data to doctors.
Counting each death is necessary to keep and disseminate accurate information to medical personnel. 'Scaring the shit out of people' is necessary because idiots keep trying to downplay the severity of the situation for their own personal gain and others because they want to show that they were right all along despite the very real risk it will lead to much worse mass outbreaks. The media got their info from the medical sector who know what they're doing so stop trying to correct them on this. Why on earth do you think the news even cares about ratings while everyone is on the verge of a pandemic right now? That position is asinine.
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Dude, take a breath. I never pretended it was nothing.
Right, spent quite a while dealing with... certain people. No further comment on that topic.
And if doctors get their numbers and stats from the press, that's another cause for concern altogether.
No, that's literally the job of the news. It disseminates news to the public. Doctors and hospitals are still part of the general public. Where do you expect doctors in remote areas to get their info? Their collective asses?
I'm talking about the mass hysteria provoked by the doomsday countdown by the media, making live news of each new official death to sell papers, and keep people scared because that sells ads.
Doomsday countdown? Are you sure you're not the one sensationalizing things? Again, look at it from the perspective of a doctor. Live news of each official death is kind of important for medical personnel, particularly epidemiologists.
Click bait is the worst possible thing in a massive outbreak like this one.
As someone with a background in biology and epidemiology, I'd say people trying to downplay a pandemic to the point that it creates worse outbreaks is significantly worse than click bait.
Wow. You are naive.
You are aware that news outlets are comprised of human beings who can also get sick, right? They have a vested interest in not getting sick/dying, and to do that they need to disseminate facts so the sickness doesn't spread too far. Maybe it's just me being 'naive' but I like to think their survival instincts trump their greed. Hell, in a pandemic, people are going to pay attention to the news regardless cause they have little better to do in quarantine, so that logic that they're doing it for the ratings doesn't even hold up to basic scrutiny. People are gonna stay tuned in until the pandemic passes no matter what.
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Being told on an hourly basis that "two new deaths" have happened is not helpful or relevant to anyone, including doctors.
And I keep telling you that it is. Why do you insist that it isn't? Are you a journalist, a doctor, or a member of emergency services? If not, please shut up about things you don't know. That kind of information is important for medical and government staff seeking to establish timelines, calculate spread, and organize medical programs. It keeps them up-to-date regarding developments with the disease, as they should be. Just because it makes you feel bad and isn't directly useful to you doesn't mean it isn't directly useful to someone who needs that info more than you and whom other people rely on.
I'm saying that media (including social media) are being more harmful than helpful right now and there are serious people starting to ask the media at large to be more focus on information than "coverage"
Except... certain people are being significantly more harmful than they are by spewing dangerous misinformation like how this is 'no biggie lol, the flu was worse' despite the fact that experts, who actually have to deal with the disease firsthand, say otherwise. The fact of the matter is that people don't often understand the raw information they are given, just like that stupid, pedantic ~1.0% statistic people insisted be spread around instead of the more useful/accurate 3.4% statistic. Coverage is crucially important in a pandemic because medical personnel need to be on top of this and, as morbid as this sounds, that requires always having the latest information on the number of infected and deceased. The news is the most accurate and timely means of widely disseminating that information as mildly unpleasant as that may be to the general populace.
Yes news outlet are comprised of people but they are not always the ones calling the shot, and like all other people, they are prone to panic, sensationalizing and fear.
Except they are still better equipped than most people since they're used to dealing with panic, emergencies, and crises. They often have to physically be at dangerous sites for coverage. They're still better equipped to handle those sorts of things than the average joe schmoe. You are pointing out the flaws in people more knowledgeable and more informed than you are while blatantly ignoring your own same faults. That behavior is dangerous.
As for new outlet management calling the shots, use Hanlon's razor. Do not attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by the general public simply being dumbasses.
Now instead of bickering about how saintly the media is or not, let's talk about prevention.
There is little else the media or medical personnel can do at this point short of advocating for a lockdown. They've done everything they can on that front. Ask your health professional family (and for the love of god, don't ever try to provide medical advice borrowing someone else's medical knowledge unless they explicitly tell you such) about hospital jokes/horror stories regarding patients. People can get really, really stupid purely due to psychology. What we are seeing is normal pandemic behavior. People panic buying supplies is normal crisis behavior. Better now while emergency services still work than later when it's on the brink of collapse. People taking ineffectual placebos is, again, normal crisis behavior. It makes them feel safer and lessens panic and trying to stop them will only make things worse. And finally, people still doing stupid things is normal people behavior. The world would be a better place if everyone practiced better hygiene. Again, actually ask your health professional friends and family. You have no idea the fetid depths some poor souls are willing to subject themselves to for no discernible reason. Do you honestly think it's the media's fault people can be gross af?
Now I don't know if you're a journalist, a doctor in a remote area or just a news junkie
I'm a bio student with epidemiology experience who has to deal with vulnerable old people panicking because they're scared and want to feel effectual even if it means spreading reckless advice that is detrimental to not only themselves but to everyone around them.
...Just, just stay safe and listen to the medical experts on the news, okay? I'm too tired to deal with this shit anymore.
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Didn't mean for this to become such a huge argument, man.
Sending you good vibes and let's hope this all gets better soon
Stay safe
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If you have said before only this part: "I'm saying the spread of panic is doing more harm than good, including on the health care system" in your reply above, I would have agreed with you and I wouldn't had to correct you. That wasn't the case. Even if that was not your intention, you clearly did minimize the fact, even though the numbers state a higher rate of mortality and spread than regular flu. Considering the exponencial increase in cases of any viruses and it's mortality rate, by basic math, it will have a much higher death count than the flu by the end of the year.
People have been downplaying this virus for months, some have wrongly said that the flu is worse like you just did above, others use other diseases. I've even seen people compare the number of suicides/homicides, which makes no goddamn sense... In the end, this flow of misinformation is exactly how we got here.
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Someone else in the thread was already predicting the number of deaths by applying a ratio (that is calculated from the data available in China, a country that has very different conditions than most European countries for example) to the population of Italy. It's ludicrous and dangerous.
It's not ludicrous or dangerous or pseudo-science. It's data projection and is a valid scientific technique. That data is what doctors and scientists have and the alternative is to pretend that that data can't be used at all. Scientists mitigate that by being transparent about their source data and using confidence intervals.
taking precautions on a individual level that will be clearly more effective than anything the governments can do
That's naive. Individual-level precautions require an educated and prosperous populace. If not, precautions of that kind must permeate the population at a cultural level. Anything less and it'll fizzle.
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Keep Calm and Cough On my dudes 8)
There are restrictions on mass gatherings in Scotland. In other parts of the UK there are no such restrictions however many big events are being postponed or cancelled such as the Premier League.
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In Italy 1000 deaths in two weeks and number of transmission cases increased from 800 to 15000. Hospitals in troubles with an increasing hospitalization frequency (a new case every half an hour or so). More strong measures have to be taken because exhausted doctors and nurses have less and less resource left to help and save lives. Since the exponential growth of the infection, I don't think waiting with almost no serious action to reduce spread is a good idea.
*Edit: 1250 now
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Its interesting how coronavirus deaths compare to other world "health" problems, all from this year:
Coronavirus:5 122
Common flu: 96 810
Suicides: 213 644
Abortions: 8,5 mil....
This shit is blown out of proportion.
https://www.worldometers.info/#flu
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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The problem is that it is NOT a flu.
We don't know it well. We know that death rate and contagion are higher than flu.
And we cant compare numbers now because it is just the beginning. Maybe in a month all is over, or maybe we will count hundred of thousands deaths ?
I have a medical work, and believe me, it scares everyone here. I hope it won't be a big deal, but i dont know yet.
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I couldnt agree more. Europe had to close its borders when the number of victims exploded in China but nothing happened. Then Italy got infected, no borders were closed and even airports didnt check everyone that was coming from Italy. What the fuck do you expect to happen. Good luck saving the situation now that every country is infected. Not to mention that the economical situation will get so much worse now that many cities have to be quarantined than by just closing the borders and letting in anything that is really necessary with a ton of checks.
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it is not how much it has killed so far, it is about how much it will kill until it is over
take germany with 80 million people:
it is anticipated that 60-70% of the population will get it until something against it is found.
the mortality is 1-3%
with only 60% 48 million will get infected and out of that 480k-1,4 million will die
now, from what is known, around 15-20% of the infected need serious or at least some medical treatment in a hospital. if to many get it at the same time the 1-3% will climb to a lot higher number
the flu killed, in one of the worst seasons, "only" 20k in the year 2018/19
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i know that these are worst case numbers but it's better than saying the flu is worse since it killed more. because of that a lot of people ignored or downplayed corona a lot and only recently started to realize that it isn't as harmless as they think it is....hell there are even people out there that still think it is nothing to worry about.
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If you believe https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ only 9% are in serious/critical state, and it only takes into account current cases (so not ppl that recovered and died)
And why would we get more infected ppl than china? out of 1,5 bil only 80 k were infected...
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https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/italy-s-ground-zero-corona-hit-us-like-a-tsunami-a-04c60857-416f-413b-8372-9d1d7f46707d
i think this explains the situation that could happen all over the world really good. 9% out of a lot of people are still a lot of people, even if it's only 9%
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Yes it is. On other hand that means 91% never needed medical attention. And that is actually less than 9% because it doesn't take into account ppl that already recovered.
What I mean by my post, is that we don't look at what we know. compare to what we already "live" with. There are scary numbers out there, and coronavirus is far from top. Just nobody talks about them.
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lol you talk like that because it's not started yet in your country
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Not sure what you mean not started yet. There is even reported casualty.
And what started is mass panic, and cleaning shelves in shops.
Hell, even islands that I didn't know that exist have it already...
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it's started when you get 200 deaths per day, 2000 new cases per day, the whole country infected, even small towns, the police stops you asking where are you going, etc...
Then the "it's just a flu" theme song stops pretty quick
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I never said its just a flu. I don't deny its more dangerous. I'm questioning by how much.
I'm questioning how ppl are told those "estimates" based on fear, while ignoring hard numbers from china that is already recovering.
I'm questioning spreading fear and irrational behavior.
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Well, China literally locked people in their houses and also we don't know if their numbers can be trusted.
It's dangerous enough to break a G7 country, that should be enough I guess.
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Stop comparing it to the flu, that is ridiculous for many reasons:
1: COVID-19 is 30 times more lethal.
2: COVID-19 is twice as transmissible.
3: There are no vaccines.
4: It is very early, and the infection rate is growing at a rate above 5% per day currently.
This infection will continue to grow at an exponential rate. Comparing COVID-19 to the flu is reckless and it gives people a false sense of security. At the current rate of growth, there may be over 1 million infected in less than 2 months. If current mortality rates continues the same, we are looking at a potential 30,000 deaths in two months.
15 million people got the flu so far this 'flu season', and it caused 8,200 deaths. If 15 million people get COVID-19, it could potentially cause 450,000 deaths.
Look it up yourself.
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And you get those information about COVID-19 where?, especially point 1
If you take china as example, out of 93k reported cases (and everyone agrees there has to be more, because not every one gets reported because most ppl get very light issues) 3k died, thats 3% and china is already recovering.
I'm putting those numbers up to get some perspective. 5000 deaths by itself is scary, but when you see that 97 000 people world wide died to flu (which nobody seems give a fuck) makes me wonder why is there so much fear around it.
Yes, its new.
Yes we should be careful
Hell i have nothing against closing borders because ppl act irresposnsibly.
But in my eyes media paint return of black plague and numbers just dont support that
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btw, I find it quite rude to say "Look it up yourself" without providing your sources. I did provide exact links with statistics I'm using as arguments
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The mortality rate for the flu is .1% for many decades.
COVID-19 mortality rate is considered to be 3.4%. Even if it is lower, and it is say 1%, at a rate of standard infection transmission comparable to the FLU we would have 1 billion infections each year (in the world), and out of those 1B at a mortality rate of 3.4% you are looking at over 30 million deaths and 10 million deaths if it's only 1%. These are just numbers as extrapolated from the current statistics if everything is left unchecked.
It's just math. Sorry if you think its rude? I think your math is rude to be honest, your kind of thinking is what makes people have a false sense of security. This is an actual pandemic. Science and math should be the only parameters to deal with, not what 'feels right'. You literally put a pandemic alongside ABORTIONS and SUICIDES which just shows what kind of straw man logic you decide to use to downplay an ongoing catastrophe.
I am only saying, that this is nothing like some manufactured political point. This is a viral pandemic, and the last time the world has seen something like this was over 100 years ago.
Not taking this shit serious is why this got so bad to begin with. It's only gotten started, I truly hope I am wrong.
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Lets start from the rude part. I said its rude to say "look it up yourself" when i provided link to sources and you did not. There is wiul
COVID-19 mortality estimates vary wildly depending on source, but everyone agrees its way to early for that. Current reported cases mortality irate is 3.7%, but majority of cases are not reported because they have light to mild symptoms and are not advised to even seek medical attention just sit on their asses at home. (at lest in Poland).
Here is WHO article that states 290k-650k ppl die to seasonal flu each year. Where did you get your numbers? Nowhere near 10 million deaths.
As for me putting suicides and abortions statistics along pandemic. I was meant to put COVID-19 statistics into perspective, but i guess putting cancer and HIV would irritate people less? :/
Pandemic means how spread it is, not how severe
"A pandemic is an epidemic that’s spread over several countries or continents and affects a large percent of the population."
"It’s important to note that this isn’t used to indicate the severity of a disease, only the degree to which it’s spreading. "
Oh, and last pandemic was declared 11 years ago. But who remembers 575,000 deaths worldwide...
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lol of all things to use suicides and abortions were not what I thought would be included
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it was meant as perspective to how many lives are already being lost and are not noticeable by society
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That's fair enough, I just expect it to be compared to other virus, diseases, etc but I can see the point
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Thankfully society has not degraded enough to cry for every fucking fetus. Why you pro-lifers don't give a shit about people who are actually alive and matter? Is it because you are actually anti-women/anti-choice?
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Iran is digging mass graves for supposed chronavirus victims.
Italy's death toll because of coronavirus crossed 1000.
Europe is now 'epicenter' of coronavirus epidemic.
China is spinning tales and blaming US military for start of this crisis.
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i typed a long answer here unfortunately lost connection and lost it
so i tell you short yea they are killing people
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Do you really mean it? For virus contention or unrelated to the virus?
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they kill every one who stands against them
prisons are full of people who said anything about them and also prisons are infected with corona virus and they dont give a shit because they want the prisoners die even im talking here they could find me and arrest me! lol
we are living in hell here and nobody should complain cos terrorists groups in iraq and .... need our money we have a rich country but they are ruining it
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I'm not scared but I'm not dismissive of the pandemic either, which I've seen a lot of people do. I follow the news from several global sources as well as some personal accounts from people. It's worrying that a lot of people remain misinformed over a lot of the details, and that there are those selected few 'special people' who just blatantly use the virus as justification for something else, meaning the racism that some Chinese people living in the West have been subjected to.
I think it's good to be concerned about the virus and take some care in your own actions accordingly. I also think getting a good amount of supplies for your pantry in case of a quarantine is a good idea, and people limiting their movements voluntarily as well. But I condemn the 'panic' side of it all, like people hoarding face masks and making the supplies limited for medical professionals, it's foolish and irresponsible.
Admittedly all the actions taken by governments to combat the spread - closing borders, cancelling mass events, restricting travel, etc - may seem extreme, but I personally think it's better to be safe than sorry. Limiting the possibilities for infection helps the medical professionals who have to care for the ill, since hospitals are being filled with people and medical supplies aren't enough everywhere. Doctors and nurses aren't immune to the virus either, so there's a big chance there wouldn't be enough people left to treat the patients if there was no limiting the spread.
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Yes I got it at work from 2 Albanians last saturday. My mom is sick so I'm pretty sure I've infected her as well. I hope she lives trough this otherwise I'll never forgive myself for not being protective enough.
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Please keep us posted and hope you all feel better soon
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the rumour corona it's just beginning of outbreak
there's a lot new virus (antiquity) from Arctic Pole, it's time bomb melted slowly coz global warming
survival mode begin :')
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New info:
Poland is closing borders for 10 days starting Sunday.
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Welp, my province just canceled classes for everyone for two weeks and all over the country they're taking measures to basically stop large groups of people. Yesterday on college people were joking that it feels like the end of times, it legit does feel like the start of an apocalyptic movie.
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Well I work in a school in Quebec and today they just took the decision to close the school for the next two weeks. The email said at least two weeks so unsure if it will be more.
I'm lucky that I can stay at home with my kids but people that work and have to suddenly find someone to care for their kids for weeks, it's gotta be pretty stressful.
People are panicking, today I went at the grocery store to stock up on a couple things (cause I have three boys who eat like ogres!) and all the aisles were empty and the employees couldn't stock fast enough!
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My wife and I were in our local IGA in Verdun last night about an hour before closing and a lot of non perishables were completely gone, most of it wasn't restocked or was bought out again when we went back this morning.
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Yeah that's crazy, I live in Chateauguay and the cashier at the Maxi told me people were already waiting when they opened this morning at 8 am. Did you manage to get what you needed?
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We got what we could, thankfully they weren't out of too much else besides canned goods and dried pastas.
I only have 1 boy so I can only imagine your expenses, especially if you were in stock up mode.
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That's actually a pretty good idea :D
Even in the grocery store all the more expensive stuff was still there but all the specials were totally gone!
I had started earlier this week so I only needed a couple of extra staples today and I wasn't stress going there but man just seeing the people panicking I came out of the grocery store on high stress...
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I feel bad for every corona company. They now have to-Oh, not that corona. Oh, okay.
Well, kittens
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I don't know what to say...
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Hey anyone heard about Russia on this? Just curious.
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In Russia if you unlucky you dies from pneumonia and from "other causes". So it is difficult to say what the real numbers are.
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Russian "doctors" said diagnosis of pneumonia has increased significantly in 2020 because of good russian medicine
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Tonight's coronavirus news is sponsored by Mike Bloomberg and Raid: Shadow Legends.
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Idk if i'm ready for a total lockdown of my area (on the off chance it may/may not happen) but i'm prepared for two weeks and purchased some flu medications and cough suppressants.
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I have seen the website I linked days ago relinked repeatedly.Any chance you could show the whole link in the original post? Not just as an afterthought?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Seriously solid information on there.
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https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/zrx2e/offcourse-you-can-now-get-the-corona-virus-on-your-pc-too that one was kind of a joke, and some hated "promoting" those games.
Anyway it's starting to spread larger and larger in countries and throughout the whole world, are you scared, are you prepared or you act like it's just like the flu?
Meter/map:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Other news/tips/prevention
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/02/here-is-what-coronavirus-does-to-the-body/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/can-a-face-mask-stop-coronavirus-covid-19-facts-checked
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/03/dont-panic-the-comprehensive-ars-technica-guide-to-the-coronavirus/
https://fold.it/ Download and play Foldit and you can help researchers discover new antiviral drugs that might stop coronavirus!
https://time.com/5791661/who-coronavirus-pandemic-declaration/
"Outbreak is ‘deeply concerning,’ with ‘alarming levels of spread and severity.’"
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