People spent around $130 on Battlefield 1 at launch to get the base game, the deluxe edition extras, and the season pass.

Now, not even a year later, you can get the "Revolution Edition" which includes all of what I mentioned above, for $60. You can get it for even cheaper at CDKeys for around $45 if you use their discount code. Even Origin has bundled this new Revolution edition with Titanfall 2 for a decent price for both games. Speaking of decent prices, the Ultimate Edition of Star Wars Battlefront is only $5 and the season pass is free!

Here's a video of a guy complaining about how he got burned by pre-ordering the ultimate edition before launch.

I would feel horrible if I pre-ordered the ultimate edition. I get hype and all that, but sooner or later there will be a complete edition for cheap. Why screw yourself over? This Revolution Edition has the Battlefield community in an uproar because it came out so early. Some people just never learn lol

The Score - Revolution

If you want to try Battlefield 1 for free for 10 hours, you can get the trial here.

There is also Origin Access available.

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Most game prices come down after some time has passed, so I wouldn't say he got burned as he already have played the game for a year.
Pre-ordering games is still stupid.

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Problem with Battlefield 1 is that from 4 DLC's they released 1 in a time span of 10 months before deciding to roll out Revolution edition which is basically the base game with free premium pass.

In a time span of 10 months Battlefield 4 had 4/4 DCL's released.

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That has nothing to do with the issue at hand, you still have played the game for a year and deemed it worth the money when you bought it. Everyone knew that the price would be cheaper later.
For your issue with the developer, did they announce that they would release the DLC's at faster pace?

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Buying premium pass or ultimate edition (vanilla + premium pass bundeled) were advertised as THE CHEAPEST way of getting DLC's but after they dropped 1 DLC in 10 months time they rolled out the revolution edition which costs as much as the vanilla game but comes with free premium pass right on time as they dropped the 2nd DLC after 11 months time.

Everyone knew the price will drop that is true but noone expected dice to screw everyone over by releasing DLC's so slowly. As mentioned previous BF title had ALL dlc's released in the same time period. They didn't announce any time tables but everyone in their right mind would look at past releases and see how fast DLC's roll out.

Saying I could play sooner than the rest is not exacly a good trade off because 1) The game got boring with no new content for multyplayer and 2) I will not get 3/4 DLC's sooner than the rest, in fact I had to wait longer.

So yeah everyone who paid 120€ for the game got screwed over, literally paid 60€ for 1 DLC in 10 months.

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"They didn't announce any time tables but everyone in their right mind would look at past releases and see how fast DLC's roll out."
Never assume anything, specially if you are going to buy something. That's the way you screw yourself over.

"Saying I could play sooner than the rest is not exacly a good trade off"
But that's what you chose to do, wasn't it?

"So yeah everyone who paid 120€ for the game got screwed over, literally paid 60€ for 1 DLC in 10 months."
Not really, you bought main game + 4 DLC's with a premium price, if you don't get the 4 DLC, then I would say you were screwed over.

The price of the game depends on what the consumers are ready to pay from it. Everyone who bought the game with 120€ were ready to do that. Now that year has passed only way to get people to buy it, they need to lower the price, it's not to screw older players, it's more to help them (players and developers) to get larger player base. How long do you think they should wait before lowering the price, just before servers are closed down?

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I mean, people buy the games at launch/pre-purchase so they play them... from the start. It's a well known fact that they'll eventually drop in price immensely. Of course EA is just taking the piss marking the games at fucking $130, but at the same time, if people buy it, they'd have to be stupid not to.

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Exactly. It's just funny to me the amount of rage and salt this Revolution Edition has caused. They really have no one to blame but themselves.

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Agreed. The issue here is people being angry at companies because they (the consumer) pre-ordered the game. If you fucking pre-order a game, that's on you. Don't whine about it.
Sorry, I'm coming on a bit too strong. Ranting is fun. :P

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Nah, keep on ranting. Its healthy!

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they paid their preorder and enjoyed it early, nothing wrong about it.

but if some are bitter about it, yes, they can start to avoid preorders.

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"But I'll play it first... I want it! I want it!"

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Tell me something new. I've been saying and I'll say it again - pre-ordering is a stupid and unnecessary thing that somehow became mainstream and "acceptable". Unless you just need (and in which case, you have a problem with self-control) to play the game AS SOON as it's available, then you're wasting a huge sum of money. Plus you risk getting scammed due to a hyped game actually being shitty, or butched releases.

In any case, not my money, not my business. Personally, I prefer to live in the past, playing games which I can trust will work and are good (based on reviews, etc) as if they had just released. Why play a game immediately? I won't die tomorrow. Or maybe I will. But huh... that's besides the point, now.

Relevant video: https://youtu.be/wiMyCzezfTg

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Pre-ordering was a thing when physical copies were the only way to get games. They just use the same term nowadays for reasons.
I believe Pre-ordering so you can play earlier became popular because of MMORPGs, so people could level up before other players in order to kill them easier in PvP early on, or create the first clans, or claim the best "spots" if the game allowed that.
From there, it went to gifting extra items in other non-MMORPGs.
But what we have right now, is pure shit. (Not that previous versions of it were any good.)

It's been said again and again arround internet to not preorder games, but people just can't resist. People are stupid.

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cool Boycott :o)
With such members in a group nothing can go wrong :-DDDDDD

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That's impressive. So much backbone! :D

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For single player games I completelly agree with you. But multiplayer games is a different story. The experience in playing the game from launch day is completely different than if you join months latter. So you're paying extra for that.

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I laugh when this kind of shit happens. The whole "pre-order now and get fucked over later" thing is nothing new, and people should know better. Pre-ordering is stupid, and complaining just makes you look like even more of an idiot... like, just STFU and learn from your mistakes.

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How did they get burned?
They paid what they thought was an acceptable price for the product and enjoyed the game for umpteen months.
Did they think the price will never be lowered?

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It's not that I don't agree that buying at launch has consequences such as paying a lot + experiencing the first bugs and unbalances, but if everyone could get Battlefield 1 + all it's expansions for 1 cent for instance, Origin would go out of business in a month. Because lets be honest, We don't want to spend 130, we don't want to spend 60, we don't want to spend 30, actually, how cheap are they willing to give it to us? It just matters when you stop being a cheap person.

Origin has to make it's money somehow cause they're not Steam and they don't have a market that gets 15% on anything sold to literally boost their lifestyle, so they seem greedy with their biggest game, but are they really? If we complain too much we'll end up killing another game.

Regarding the video, what did he expect, origin has been giving away every dlc for a battlefield(excluding 1) game for free so far, so at least before they start doing that, they'll try and sell it cheap. You already know it's coming and as a guy who pre-ordered the game, he should too. So this $60 edition is basically selling you the game which you're a year old to, + the DLC which you get to enjoy early cause you paid for it before everyone else will get it for free, but not as early as the guys who pre-ordered and paid even more. Makes sense. The more you pay, the sooner you get to enjoy things, the less you pay, the later you are to the party. It was going down in price over time either way, it can't just stay at $130 for the rest of his life cause he's entitled.

I'd say the real problem isn't pre-ordering, it's DLC itself existing. expansion packs always existed, but they were very different and delivered much higher quality content than any DLC I see today.

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Support the Russian Revolution, comrade. After all, it's the 100 years anniversary.

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From 130$ to 60$ in a little bit less than a year?
We have seen bigger (at least %) discounts on other games....even from EA
Battlefield 4 (60$) was sold 6months after release on sales for 20$....

They enjoyed playing the game for 11 months...if they didn't get their 130$ worth of play/fun out of it...guess it's their selfmade problem with preordering?^^

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My biggest issue is with preorder exclusives. "Buy it now before you have any way of knowing if it's gonna suck balls or you'll miss out forever on this in-game item."

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Agreed I hate this so much. Even though it's usually just small things, still irritating knowing if you buy later you won't ever have the complete game

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While I agree that it's irritating that you won't be able to get all DLC material after launch ... it's kinda worse when they announce pre-order exclusives that then is released as a DLC after a while.

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They should really just drop the "exclusive" part.

The system seems to be set up to punish people who aren't stupid with their money. They milk customers horribly for their loyalty.

IMO it should be a reward for loyalty, not a punishment for not being sure about a new game.

1) Preorder at a discount, get the whole shebang for cheaper than release.
2) Buy after release, pay full price but at least you know if it's gonna be good.
3) Buy the "GOTY" version a year and a half down the track at a discount.

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That pricing model just makes so much sense. Why isn't this the standard?

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People that buy preorder have too much money

When they want waste there money in this way it is ok for me but QQ later because it was so expensive is only a laugh for me.
Each one know that the Gameprices drop in the first year very fast.

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Yeap people have money and time to play on release(like me).

Though I really find it fascinating when such outrage starts because of a too soon price drop or abandoning support 6-7 months after release ( cough MEA cough).

Also decent sales( 25-50%) may come as soon as the 1st quarter after release. But I feel like most people just go on the internet to rant and not to inform themselves.

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Yes its facinating how many people are like kids or dumb (or both) :o).
When they want anything AND pay the price for it i don't see a reason for QQ later.
I wait that prices drop (don't have much and have soooo many games that i should/want play...) and i see in that time if the developers only want make fast money or give a, very long, support. I try to avoid developers that abandoned there games after 6 month - 2 years. When a developer make himself a name with long support i be willing to pay more and buy earlyer. But i see much to much "grab and forget" developers (Early Access -and the ultra high prices only for promises...nothing else- is really bad [i never buy anything in EA]).

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I had too much free time in last few years and pretty much played everything I was interested and now I either replay games or wait for the next new thing I will enjoy(hence why I pre-ordered Mass Effect Andromeda after enjoying the 10 hour trial)

I personally dont expect long support of SP games unless they announced a Season Pass(and even then i dont bother to touch said pass until all is said and done points at Borderlands:TPS ) For MP lasting support is a must.. or until there is still a sizable playerbase ( 1k+ ).

When comes to Early Access.. well I often try to dig as much info as possible and even then I got burnt out ( Starpoint Gemini 2) but it is what it is.

Spending money will provide you with either a good product.. or a good lesson.

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The last sentence hit it exactly :o)

Borderlans 2 .. i own the GOTY Edition and still missing 20 or 25 DLC from the game. That fu**s really up :-D

I am no friend of DLC's and Season Passes. In the past you buy a FINISHED (stable) game and only buy MAYBE later a addon (much of stuff inside not only cosmetic stuff, 2 new maps or other DLC crazy stuff from today).
Today you buy mostly a not finished Game (often Beta Version or short behind it) that brings from "a few" to "many" DLC's to make the game to the game they want do and/or had promised. Nearly each, from "tiny" to "big" DLC must payed (Blood and Gore for Total War as example for tiny).

Seen the L4D Video from your profile. Was cool :o)

Ps.: You are whitelisted now :o)

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Buying games at launch is usually a bad move for your wallet. These days games are nearly guaranteed to be at least 25% off within three months of release. Wait a year and you might see 50-66% even for big name titles.

Big-name developers and publishers make most of their money from the initial launch of the game. Once this period is over, they start looking at getting their game out for cheaper to keep sales going and to squeeze some extra cash out of the IP. This is less likely to happen with indie developers since they can subsist on slow-burning sales. Another big factor is DLC and sequels, where the base game is given away at incredibly low prices in the hopes that it will increase brand recognition and loyalty.

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That's like saying that buying an iPhone 8 this year for 800$ is stupid if next year it will be selling for 700$..
Anyway, more on topic, pre-orders and day-one DLC is ruining the overall experience of a game, that's why when I get the game its when I am going to play it.. because today its 75% off tomorrow can be 90%, nobody knows that's in the devs minds

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Where can I find the Battlefield's community response to this new edition other than the comments on the video you linked?

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Everyone seems to be missing the point here. The issue isn't the price drop as such as everyone knew that was going to happen but when it occurred. People paid a premium for a "complete edition" and EA then started selling equivalent of said "complete edition" for a third of the price after the first of four DLC packs was released.

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Exactly, at first I thought, eh, what else is new, but this is some next-level bullshit.

They are selling the "complete" edition while only two out of four expansions are released.
The second one is ready, not available for purchase until tomorrow, but playable if you buy Revolution edition or Premium Pass.

However, I think it's a good thing for the longterm, it seems that people are actually starting to notice the shitty practices. I mean EA wouldn't decrease the price if the sales of the $110 premium edition where satisfactory.

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They paid the 70 dollar extra so they could play the game before most players migrate over to the next spectacle shooter. Nothing particularly new here apart from EA acknowledging that the average console shooter player's attention span may last for a year at best. So, now they try to bring in the crowd whose parents do not have 130 bucks for a game, only 60—thus keeping the game alive a little more before Battlefield 1 Part 2 or something comes along.

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When the developers concentrate more on the MATURE players instead on all the 13-18 yo "teens" then they have much more people that don't make a Gamehopping after maximum 1 year.
This should be no attack on the younger players. It's normal but it's a fact that they move much faster from game to game.

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True. The Battlefield series is not the one that will ever concentrate on the mature player base though. The last game that did that was maybe the second Battlefield. (As in Vietnam, not Battlefield 2, which was the third game. But the numbering in the series never made any sense, it is worse than the numbering of Fallout or Resident Evil.)

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In the good old days the games have right Numbers :-D

Battle Isle 1
Battle Isle 2
Battle Isle 3
Battle Isle 4
Monkey Island 1
Monkey Island 2
Monkey Island 3
Heroes of Might and Magic 1
Heroes of Might and Magic 2
Heroes of Might and Magic 3
and so on ....

I want the good old days back

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I just don't understand people complaining about price drops. More people will be able to afford the game, servers become populated again, you can make a gift to your friends and play with them...

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The issue here is that they are dropping the price on content that isen't even out yet.

People who bought the season pass (a.k.a. Premium) only got the first DLC a little earlier... the second DLC just came out and that's it. No more content has been released yet.

Meaning that people who buy it now will be paying a lot less for future content that the people who bought it early paid much more for... and both groups will get that content at the exact same time. Something like this would have made sense if all the DLC content had already been released - but not before then.

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I disagree. Lets say the game has a 2 year long life span. They paid twice as much to get twice as long to play with an active playerbase. I think they won in this case.

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sooner or later there will be a complete edition for cheap. it's the case for everygame, they gonna have price decrease or pack one days or another.
but if everyone did like that and waited, most games wouldn't sell at lauch and just die without more contents at cheaper prices later.

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I don't wait until it's super cheap and complete for every game. I bought Rising Storm 2 Vietnam at launch because I couldn't wait. I used to buy all the Halo games day 1. There's always someone there supporting it at launch even if a lot of people wait.

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What's wrong ? he enjoyed the game 1 more year than the people that are going to buy it now. He has unlocked tons of items in game that people don't have now, so he will have upper hand on people starting the game. The only REAL downside is about pre ordering goodies, i think those thing should stay exclusive to those who made an effort to support the game early. But for the rest, there's nothing wrong with EA. All game now have somehow a "complete" version coming a year or 2 later for a better price. People that preorder knows this and just want to enjoy the game as early as possible. People that want complete experience will wait later. The crying babies should just learn how gaming industrie work, and never trust what developper tells. Just be patient, or be ready to pay full price has always been the rule.

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The problem lies in the unreleased content.
People who bought the season pass before the paid $50 for 4 promised DLC, by the time the Revolution edition was released only one of these DLCs were playable.
So the extra $50 only bought you the ability to play one DLC earlier.

That's simplyfyilng a bit because people who bought only the base game at launch are ever more screwed - for them the only option to get the DLCs is to eithe buy each DLC as it is released ($15 per each) or pay $50 for the season pass now. All the while seeing that the full package costs only $60.

Devaluing of the games over time was common, but with BF1 it's really striking. EA actually devalues unreleased content:

Item Price on initial release Price on "Revolution" release
Base Game 60 40
Season Pass 50 50
Full package 110 60

So how does the Revolution edition price split? Is is the base game with free season pass, base game with season pass devalued to $20, season pass with base game devalued to $10, or just the full package with almost 50% discount?

And remember, at the time of writing this, whatever you pay, you still pre-order two DLCs! You never know how much will the full package cost when all content is released.

TL;DR: the season pass was overpriced in the first place.

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I mean, they payed knows the $130 price. If they are willing to pay that for a game than it's their fault. EA only lowered the price to increase a dying community.

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its been 1 year. nearly every game gets 50% discounted after a year. That is completely normal. nothing to be upset about. i dont like season passes and dlc's so i bought the normal edition for 29 euros 6 month ago. no regrets.

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The thing is, the DLCs (the Season Pass) also get discounted.
And half of the DLCs isn't even out yet.

That's why people feel screwed. There's no "I paid more, but I had it earlier" consolation here. Those who bought Premium Edition at launch only got the base game and 1 of 4 DLCs earlier than people who buy the Revolution edition today.

btw, I don't own any of BF1 content, I just find it amusing that it had to come this level of devaluing over time and pre-order bullshit for people to realize that day one prices are inflated beyond imagination.
That buying at launch is the worst option ever. Even moreso considering games being bugged at launch (this may not apply to BF1)

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I learned about that of not buying NEW games /preorder but on console :( , bough ac syndicate and the division for 70€ each one, those 140€ that i will never get back and could make better use, feelsbad.

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