Is Picard the best Captain on any vessel ever?
So is he going to time-travel back into Star Trek Discovery in an attempt to save that show, or what ?
Comment has been collapsed.
Lousy as it is, it doesn't look like it needs saving. It's been doing pretty well for some reason
Comment has been collapsed.
Well it's not a bad show per se, it's just not a good Star trek show.
Comment has been collapsed.
I actually liked the first 3 episodes. Then I got a little bored but still watched a few more. I just quit after I finished season 1. It just got more predictable and cliche-driven as time went by. I am aware of the change of writers and I guess the new batch of writers had a tough job but still it ended up doing nothing for me.
Comment has been collapsed.
B-but what about Captain Janeway? Of course nice to see Jean-Luc back into action. ^^
Comment has been collapsed.
Where can we vote for which captains we want new series from?
Comment has been collapsed.
So nice to get something at least quite modern vs all the ancient history series about stuff that can't affect anything.
Comment has been collapsed.
he was the best because it's the first star trek i watched, so i'm sure it's just nostalgia. 🤔
the current show, discovery, looks amazing and it's way better than any next generation story i remember. 😅
Comment has been collapsed.
It's prolly the first most people have watched. It is very optimistic and I love it for that and mainly for Picard being awesome.
The best Star Trek show that I've watched (I've watched all of Next generation, Deep Space 9, Voyager, a few seasons of Enterprise with Archer I believe, and a bit of Original Series) and I've got to say that Deep Space 9 is by far the best out of them all in my eyes. Some amazingly written and acted episodes, a great captain, and a much more grim and realistic picture of Star trek.
I still remember The VIsitor (for some reason that one really hit me hard), Duet, In the Pale Moonlight, Far beyond the stars...
Recently I finished watching Babylon 5, after you drag your way through the first season (which I really didnt have any problems watching, apart from the shock of getting through the first episode with Garibaldi's and Sinclair's stiff acting) the show picks up big time, and is a great example of how to do big story arcs right. I was really pleasantly surprised how good it turned out to be...
Andreas Katsulas as G'Kar and Peter Jurasik as Londo Mollari are pretty much the highlight of the whole series for myself and many others, given their character development and superb acting.
Sorry for the wall of text, I just felt like expressing some love for both franchises. :D
Comment has been collapsed.
I had a friend who could go on for hours about how good Babylon 5 is.
He was especially fond of throwaway plot hooks they'd drop in Season 1 and 2, then pick back up years later.
Comment has been collapsed.
Yeah, that is prolly cause JMS wrote pretty much every episode and had it planned out from the start I believe. It would prolly be even better if they didnt have the whole "we're gonna cancel you after 4th season" but ended up having a 5th season anyways.
Anyway, great show, up there with Battlestar Galactica as well.
In recent years The Expanse is a frakking (to borrow some vernacular from BSG) awesome though I've yet to watch the 3rd season.
Comment has been collapsed.
He will be too old to make a believable captain, he would either be an admiral, someone that gives advice to another character, some renegade.
Comment has been collapsed.
He was already too old in STNG movies. Stewart is too good to appear twice a season on screens for some boring captain like Chris Pine or the ST:D one
Comment has been collapsed.
I just hope its more like the old stuff and not some NEW RETRO SHIT ST:D
Even The Orville felt more trekkie then ST:D with WAAAAAAAAY less budget
Comment has been collapsed.
I love Discovery, and to have another Trek show with Sir Patrick is amazing. TNG got me into Trek 20 odd years ago. It deserved a better ending than it got.
Comment has been collapsed.
Interesting, especially regarding possible guest appearances of other old school trek cast members, maybe even reprising their legendary roles once more.
Comment has been collapsed.
Picard is a badass. I want to see him fight Batman some day :p
Comment has been collapsed.
Well he fought and befriended Magneto, so anything can happen!
Comment has been collapsed.
Sisko punched Q in the face, and Q's response was "You hit me! Picard never hit me."
Sisko is clearly superior.
Comment has been collapsed.
That was awesome, but I think I like Picard more even though Deep Space 9 is vastly better in my opinion.
Comment has been collapsed.
To me TNG was the show that made Star Trek annoying, so I don't have any nostalgia towards Captain Picard. I won't mind if Patrick Stewart returns to Star Trek as Professor X. That would be cool.
Comment has been collapsed.
Tribbles weren't annoying?
"Red-shirts" dying on every away mission wasn't annoying?
William... SHATNER'S... ridiculous overacting... and STRANGE pauses... when he... spoke... wasn't ANNOYING?
The only way to tell Klingons from anyone else was that Klingons had beards. That wasn't annoying?
Star Trek: The Motion Picture wasn't annoying?!
Comment has been collapsed.
Not as annoying as:
Q, Deanna's mother, Wesley Crusher, a whiny Klingon, an empath who can only get other people's feelings when they're obvious, and the only character who actually made the show worth watching, Tasha Yar, getting killed in a meaningless way (and the script going on about how meaningless it was). (Sorry, that was an unintended insult to Guinan, who was certainly an enjoyable character, though couldn't make up for the rest of the cast.)
Long shots of conference room discussions moving from face to face.
Everything ending up being meaningless, random, or just a misunderstanding.
Entire episodes spent in the holodeck.
And lots of other stuff that had to do with bad writing.
Sure, the later seasons picked up a bit (the Borg were neat), but not enough to really elevate TNG in my mind from the 'annoying' niche.
That said, I did enjoy First Contact quite a bit. Would be interesting to see it again to see how it holds up.
...
Edit: And regarding the annoying stuff in the original series, well, no, that wasn't at all annoying. Sure, not every episode was great, the acting could be hammy and the Styrofoam rocks were amusing, but the series carried itself well. ST:TNG was simply a mess in the first seasons.
Comment has been collapsed.
It's all a matter of perspective, and personal taste. Objectively, TNG was no more a "mess" than TOS.
Comment has been collapsed.
Objectively, it was a total mess. See 'William Shatner Presents: Chaos on the Bridge'.
Comment has been collapsed.
When you need a character in the show who is literally God, to pull you off with deus ex machinas every time you write yourself in the corner and you need that tool so often he is actually a main character to regularly do that… and when you managed to start a meme of incomprehensible and random technobabble to write yourself out of everything else… then yes, the show is a mess, even if it has memorable and great characters.
Comment has been collapsed.
If it requires a mess to result in the generally most beloved and appraised Sci Fi series, then I'm all for creating more mess.
Comment has been collapsed.
It is generally most beloved in spite of it being a mess, not because of it.
OS: old as hell, cheesy etc (I havent watched it all yet so cant comment on the whole run), Voyager - kinda shit also cause of some bad writing, not very interesting characters, generally alright but not as good as TNG or DS9, DS9 - some of the best Sci fi on screen (at least that I know of), maybe people were put off by it being on a space station and therefore havent given it a chance, even though it might be the best of them all.
Many people were mostly likely first introduced to TNG so that will always be a big plus in their eyes.
It had freakin Picard as a captain who's awesome, wise, and has amazing monologues/dialogues whatever. I know I always enjoyed different philosophical views that were being expressed and tackled in the show, even though compared to DS9 it was a bit subdued, and everything was a bit too optimistic...
I love it a lot, and it was the first one I saw on TV when I was a little kid, but it definitely had a ton of shitty moments.
I actually liked watching the Luxana Troy episodes where Picard was always trying to avoid her lol. :P
Also, Q is awesome. :D
Comment has been collapsed.
I tried to defuse their topic with my reply. ;)
DS9 is my favorite as well, mostly because of the fantastic setup and chemistry between the characters.
Yet when I remind myself about the most unique and memorable episodes, TNG wins by far. Just play that song from The Inner Light and you'll have me tear up in few seconds. Always, till the end of times.
Comment has been collapsed.
I prefer the directors cut version:
https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2017/10/21/355b70082970bbd3.mp4
Besides a few episodes with Riker, all top episodes are with Picard in the main role, at least the ones i remember. The other characters just really didn't develop well enough in my opinion.
Not sure if that's "a mess" though.
Comment has been collapsed.
I listed a few episodes from DS9 in another comment:
The Visitor - I cried watching that shit, Tony Todd did a wonderful job in that episode. I think he mentioned that his nan died shortly before doing that episode which made him decide to do it...
Duet -Two amazing scenes between Kira and the Cardassian who wasnt really the murderer he was making himself out to be...),
In the Pale Moonlight - I think thats the one where Sisko agrees to let a man die to ensure Romulan support in the war..
Far Beyond the Stars - tackled racism from what I remember...Anyway amazing scene
And a few from Star Trek:TNG:
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
SHAKA WHEN THE WALLS FELL!
Any episode where Picard drops knowledge bombs. :D
Yeah, The Inner light episode was pretty awesome from what I remember. :)
Comment has been collapsed.
If I had the money, the first gift I'd make to humanity is to pay for a HD conversion of DS9. ;)
Comment has been collapsed.
that is great news indeed.
you just can't go wrong with picard.
i wonder if they'll finally be testing the acid drive.
Comment has been collapsed.
where's the 2000/01 meme of captain jean luc picard of the uss enterprise?
btw never watched any thing i know him only for the meme i dont watch movies or tv series =(
Comment has been collapsed.
If this is going to be locked behind CBS's paywall, CBS can go screw themselves.
Comment has been collapsed.
The first episode might be free. But the rest is very likely to be part of CBS All Access.
Comment has been collapsed.
Patrick Stewart - Surprise at Star Trek Las Vegas 2018 - saw this video today, here ya go if someone is interested in it...
Comment has been collapsed.
Hmmm... "The crew mans their stations..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-pm8uxw1MM
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd5yB9Vmd6I
Comment has been collapsed.
Hah awesome, good ol SG1...and ofc the other animation :D
Comment has been collapsed.
Star Trek: Picard – Official Teaser Trailer - YouTube
The time has come!∑(･θ･ﾉ)ﾉ
Comment has been collapsed.
Patrick Stewart's announcement via Twitter
I'm sure you'll find more news and details on the scene site of your choice. ;)
Edit: This article seems to have the most information.
Comment has been collapsed.