If making suggestions for improvements, wouldn't a better one be to have Steamgifts recognize ownership of these games? ESGST is able to identify that members own this games. Why can't Steamgifts?
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"ESGST is able to identify that members own this games."
Really!? That's interesting. I've seen this same problem of not being able to identify ownership of "features limited" games, as well as DLC, on a number of sites, and various statements to the effect that it's a problem in the API. I wonder how ESGST does it.
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Me too. All I know is that it works. I thought this was well known
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ESGST doesn't prevent me from entering giveaways for "profile features limited" games that I already own, are you sure it works? SGTools handles these situations by assuming all DLC and PFL games are activated on the users account because they aren't properly detected
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All I can do is share my experiences. We all know that SG does not identify many owned games. I use ESGST to identify owned games so that I can 'ignore' them on SG. I have not seen an instance where ESGST made a mistake, that is mark a game as owned when it was in fact not owned by me.
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The comment is directly related. Rather than spend resources to create a workaround for a bug, why not fix it?
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The complaint was that with 'hidden' games you can still enter and that the only indication was the lack of the 'hide' button, which is easily missed on long trains. If the games were recognized as owned, you would not be able to enter the giveaway at all. So it's a different, arguably better, approach to the exact same issue. You don't like the suggestion? Fine. One person's opinion, but its kind of silly to argue that I shouldn't even make the suggestion and then blacklist me for it. Last time I checked I was a member in the same good standing as
you, so I'm happy to follow my own judgment of what to post and don't recall needing or asking for your approval. You have my permission to post here as you see fit (guess I'm a bigger guy than you) and feel free to ignore any comments that you wish. Nothing else is wanted or required from you.
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Actually, it puts icons beside the game link. Not a warning per se. By default it shows a green check mark for owned games and DLC and a red x if not owned. It also has icons for bundled games or games that give cards among other things
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I'm one of those, that for security reasons very much avoid using add-ons (currently just NoScript, ABP and 3 other very well known add-ons installed). Still, seeing that ESGST is an Firefox certified add-on, not a GreeseMonkey script, this may be one of the reasons, which will finally convince me to use it.
However, it's a very small minority, that is using it and that is likely to use in the future, so even if I install it myself, I still believe, that implementing the warning directly into the site would be a significant improvement. Also I would prefer the warning/marking to be directly linked with the "Enter Giveaway" button, either by creating a confirmation pop-out, or at least by changing the color of the button for such GAs.
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I don't know why nobody mentioned it yet, but ESGST has a feature you're looking. It's called "Hidden Game's Enter Button Disabler" and makes the button red and unclickable.
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I hear you, but, rather than spend resources to create a workaround for a bug, why not fix it?
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I second this. This would be really a nice-to-have feature!
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you see if it's ignored if GA doesn't have this one thing when you open it's page
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"Without checking Steam they are only identified by a lack of ignore button next to game's name." ;)
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Please, add a warning, when entering ignored GAs
As I noted in boloxer's spin-off thread, SG can't receive much of your personal account information through their access, so there likely isn't any method by which they can interact with your ignore list or such, and thus no method by which they could present a warning to you. A more feasible option would be to rely on a script for that functionality, as scripts shouldn't have any trouble accessing your ignore list.
encounter many GAs for games on my ignore list
If it's information that SG can't pull directly, then there's still the option for SG to implement the ability to allow the user to manually upload the information. Barter.vg already offers ignore list upload functionality, and it works rather well. That said, we've been asking for that functionality from SG for years now, so it's probably not worth putting much expectation towards.
Of course, you can already hide games on Steamgifts through their giveaway page, so it seems to be pretty straightforward to simply check against whether the game displays a hide icon or not, and to just manually hide games as you get them. Of course, the fact that you can't easily hide games without having to dig down a giveaway for them brings us right back to "SG really needs a way to easily add games to your hide list [by appid]". So regardless, that does seem to be the best fix for the matter.
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I'm sorry, my wrong. I should not use the word "ignored", when I mean games, that I have decided to hide on SteamGifts.
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Okay, sorry, I get what you're saying now. Yeah, it's bizarre that we still have the option to enter for hidden games.
A more natural design would have it so that hidden games have their entry button disabled, while also having their hide icon replaced by a "reveal" icon, rather than simply having the hide icon vanish. That way we'd easily be able to recognize ignored games, while still also having the ability to easily enter the games in question (which presumably is the functionality that not blocking the entry button is intended to maintain).
[Though it is worth noting that there are already some scripts which grey out the entry button for hidden games, ignored games, and owned DLCs, as a more immediate solution option.]
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More than a warning, it would be nice to have an option to fully prevent us from entering GAs marked as hidden. I.e., a game marked as hidden would behave similarly as an already owned/won game.
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I enter a lot of trains and private GAs, and in this way I encounter many GAs for games
on my ignore listthat I have decided to hide on SteamGifts (mostly already owned "features limited" and removed). Without checking Steam they are only identified by a lack ofignorehide GA button next to game's name. It's very easy to miss it, especially when entering in hurry a long train.Please, don't take me wrong. I usually check each game on Steam, both for ownership and reviews, before entering a GA. However, there are times, when discovering a long train, I don't have time to do so. Also, there are some folks, that rarely, if ever, check Steam for ownership, so this could be a "quality of life" improvement, that could also lower the number of rerolls (at least I always check Steam for ownership, before revealing a key from a won GA).
Edit, May 5th: It's been pointed to me, that I should not talk of "ignore list", when I really mean "GAs hidden on SteamGifts". Sorry for this.
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