if they worked i would have noticed im trading with a scammer, but they did nothing even after 3 users report him
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Its a known fact that steam policy allow scamming. Occasionally their support will clean some bugs and scamming bots but they will never do any real action against those who abused system... Thats the reason why blizzard, ubisoft and other companies have bigger market share even thou steam is great platform.
p.s. Steamrep is helpless to do anything to help steam users
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as long as people can use keys for real value a scam will always be going on
and i am sure the others have people getting scammed it just not as common or knowing because steam is a lot bigger then all the others more users=higher scammers
just like more Windows users=more hacking and viruses
rep will always be a broken system as it is only someone else saying you can trust the person when they in fact could just be some random person giving rep to a scammer
the other thing is those damn keys and other items that hold value as long as that is in place scamming will be a lot higher if that was removed then a lot of it would be eliminated
people who use paypal for that risk not only not getting the game but lose there account so why even risk it period i still have not figured out i had to learn the hard way using paypal
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Steam is a platform.
Blizzard/Ubisoft/Activision are developers/publishers.
The developers/publishers go to the platform.
What.
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Sounds like the Support Forums on SteamGifts... Kappa
But really though, there's stuff from 5 months back that I don't even know if anyone's taken a single look at.
And then there was one of them, they gave me an answer but just went ahead and closed it, that's that.
"It's a known issue." So what? Is this issue being worked on, is it gonna be around forever? What the heck man?
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Maybe it's just by the time anyone actually checks it, the things I'm reporting are irrelevent.
Or fixed without any response back...
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Haha, oh man, that's a good one.
I think I've heard it before...
Is SGv2 still being developed? @_@
(Yes, I was acting like it was a joke, please don't take it the wrong way but... I've been seeing stuff about SGv2 ever since I registered here or whatever, where the heck is it?)
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I think a browser extension using steamID could let us mark scammers (and good traders) in real time, and if there was a tiny fee, like an item being used as a caution by every participant, to get in the system im sure it could prevent most abuses. To judge reports 3 active users would be selected randomly to decide.
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I reported a scammer and they never responded to it
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Yea, it is pretty much useless. The problem is they have no real power at all. If a scammer is reported to Steamrep they either create a new account or keep scamming under their same name as theres many people who never bother to check SR anyway.
I dont think its entirely useless in certain cases, but for the most part its not a very viable tool. I also think its important that if you are scammed to report them there anyway as spreading the word about scammers is one of the only things a victim can do.
And yea, they don't "do" anything if its a CD key trade.
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They do reverse trades with scammers that happen within the trade window. How in the bloody hell would they be able to reverse a bloody key trade? "I paid 20 USD via paypal for this game key and ended up being scammed". No way to prove either for or against either party in that situation.
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They have no power to reverse any trade. The only ones that can do that is Steam Support. The only thing SR can do is help support someone's case and have them banned from affiliate sites and theres been instances of them putting pressure on a scammer just by threatening them with this to get people's things back. Valve are the only ones who have the power to actually reverse the trade.
And yes, it would absolutely be possible to prove a key scam. Obviously not all, but lets say I paid you 20 for a key and you gave me a non-working key or a key for a different game. I'd have chat logs and I'd have my Paypal receipt as well as the key you gave me that could be checked for legitimacy. Since the game was purchased outside of Steam though, Valve really can't do much. Its less an SR issue than a Valve issue and I understand why they dont bother with those. Besides, if I paid via Paypal, Id just dispute there or reverse the charge on my credit card.
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Your method of proving a key scam doesn't work. Here's the problem:
How do we know you're not lying about failing to receive the key (or receiving a bad key?)
You could just receive it, then turn around and sell it to someone else. You can edit the chatlogs. You can make up a bad key and show it as "proof." There's no way for the other user to prove to anyone that the key they have has or hasn't been redeemed without redeeming it themselves, and (if you traded it away to a third party) there's no way for them to prove that it wasn't already used when they gave it to you.
...actually, though, now that the Steam API allows you to sign in through another site and give that site permission to redeem keys on your account, someone could set up a trusted Steam Trading Site. Here's how it would work:
In order to sign up for the site, you have to publicly link it to your Steam account, which must have a certain value of games and a certain age.
When two people want to trade, they give the site their keys. The site then redeems the keys on the respective accounts in a random order. If the key you gave fails to redeem, you're flagged as a scammer on the site; if it was the first key, of course, the second key is never redeemed.
Obviously this won't prevent all scamming, but it would detect key-scammers flawlessly, and give them a 50% chance of failing every time they're attempted, with any scam getting your account banned... and since it requires a certain value for accounts, while making them public, it would be fairly difficult to scam there repeatedly.
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For me steamrep was gone long time ago.
Idk why if someone take a pic of proof that someone was scammed ( like on steam wallet method - you need one pic and you know everything) and steamrep wait when more people will be scammed. It's just ridiculous. I even try understad this that maybe is only 1 scam of this person and dont do anymore but if someone will be banned for 1 scam oter people will be afraid.
Maybe some day i do competition for steam rep because my 2 it work on this problem for a year and we maybe finish 1 program to block scammerson your own account. This is simple - you just log in on page like steamgifts via steam account and update list of scammers on your account ( all this account will be blocked on your steam account - then you dont need to worry that someone from this scammer added you)
I work a lot with steam api and see scammers everyday and i dont realize why so big page like steamrep dont do anything on this way.
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