Level 1 giveaway
Question to fellow puzzlers: should I say here the name of the game that puzzle leads to?
Yes, please do and do include the level as well. I also wasted a lot of time answering jigidis, only to end up in a giveaway meant for higher levels. Nonos, at least, are much quicker and more fun to solve.
Thanks for the nono, BTW. I enjoyed it.
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i got banned in other thread for asking the same, but my opinion did not change - you should say a game name and level required to enter a giveaway
I also wasted a lot of time answering jigidis
me too or found out a game in that i am not interested
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I only made 1 invite-only giveaway so far (I plan to make more on my cakeday if nothing bad happens to me financially in the next few months) but I made sure to mention the name, level, and regional restriction because it's just common sense to respect everyone's time.
The daily jigidis last month, especially the ones with abstract image, was traumatizing. Some of them took me 4 hours to solve just 1, only to find that it's meant for higher level. Solving puzzles are no longer fun when they take a huge amount of time for a false promise of reward.
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I don't particularly have fun solving jigidis, so I made a rule for myself that I'll only solve it if there are less than 50 pieces, even if I really want the game being given away
If spending that amount of time was a guarantee of getting a key (like solving the Pantaloon puzzles), I'd do it, but we spend a lot of time for a meager chance to maybe who knows win a game. Time that could be spent .... gaming and clearing the backlog!
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I love nonos too! My favorite type of puzzles. It's just sad that on this website you can only randomly generate a nono. I really love nonos that actually make a beautiful picture in the end.
About level, I am not really sure if I am gonna make big level restrictions, but if I ever will, then I am gonna mention it. But I will definitely not go lower than lvl 1.
Thanks for feedback
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I discovered nonograms on this site when I joined here last year and ever since learning how to solve them, I also solved the ones meant for higher level giveaways. It's like solving sudoku but with less headache. And it's so satisfying to place that one last block to complete the puzzle.
On the levels, I only mentioned it because you didn't include it in your post. You don't need to raise or lower the level restriction for this giveaway. It's just to inform those on lower level if it's worth their time to solve the nono.
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I haven't thought about it, but on the other hand, I think I just had some wrong perception that everybody had at least lvl 1. I thought that it's a weakest bot protection possible, because for me only bots have 0 level. Anyway, thank you for pointing that. Maybe there really are real active people with 0 level here too!
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I used to be level 0 until last week when I had an extra key for a game no one in my family share wants. It's kinda hard to find a key that isn't more expensive than the Steam regional pricing for my country. And due to the regional pricing difference, a lot of known 3rd-party stores don't offer keys for AAA games. The most I can get where I can still somewhat save money are indie games in "deep discounts" such that it equals the non-sale regional pricing on Steam.
I'm not saying that all level 0s are in this situation. I do think these puzzles are enough to ward off the actual bots.
Anyway, in my case, Steam gifts would be the easy solution but that requires adding friends and limiting the giveaway to my region.
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I randomly had an idea to give away something to citizens of my country, so I gifted the game through steam via adding to friends and had no problem with it. I think it's even safer than sending a key, since you 100% the other party won't steal a key or anything. But yeah, I know your problem. Sometimes it's cheaper for me to buy all games from humble bundle individually directly from steam, than buying it bundled in dollars. But most of the time humble or fanatical are still dirt cheap even compared to low income regions.
But that's sweet, that you think about your steam family before everyone else. Maybe I would have given something to my steam family too, but I just know they won't even bother playing those games.
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+1
I don't understand how hiding the information on what game is being given and the joining restrictions improves the puzzle. Sharing that information feels like basic courtesy and respect for everyone's times. I also have been reprimanded in other threads for asking this kind of question
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I am sorry for all of you, that had this situation. When creating this discussion, I haven't really thought this would bring so much people with the same problem as I had. I thought here would be 2 or 3 bumps and that's all, but turns out it's a well known problem. 0_o
Next time I will definitely list every entry requirement I can, so people wouldn't lose time.
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Don't worry, just the fact you bothered to ask whether you should include the game or not already shows a great sense of empathy. And turns out creating this safe space for people to vent about it was indeed needed :)
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Hey! If it is your first time, it's fine. I also was in your shoes.
I would really suggest, that you check out this guide below. Some sweet people helped me by sending it, so now it's my turn I guess.
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/TLR8m/zelgh-magic-guide-to-basic-sg-puzzling-update-october-2017
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I own way to many nonogram games on Steam, it's awesome!
The game, well, it's easy at first but later on gets complicated so I needed a guide, but you need to think very strategically and plan ahead but it was a game I enjoyed playing for most levels so that is always good ^^ People who are into such puzzle games should enjoy it, I just kept forgetting how stuff worked or what I tried which made it harder for me sometimes and made me do a lot of error and trial on some levels, but again, I did enjoy the game enough to give it a positive.
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Oh I love puzzles! It's just sometimes it feels like I don't have enough brain power to solve them, but when I realise I actually can solve it and just have to push myself a little, I already have no motivation. But now, after your response, it's a must play for me. Thank you :)
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For me, for such games, it's important that there is a guide since yes I want to beat it myself but I also know I won't ever be able to beat some hard levels and being stuck in a game is so frustrating, so I do my best to play it but when it gets to hard, I get some help, that way I can still enjoy the game my way since I KNOW I am not smart enough for some puzzles ^^
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I actually figured that I have some spare time to try out this game, and come back to you with actual response about the game.
Long story short: it feels unbelievably easy, and for this I don't like it. And sometimes it's soo easy, that it starts to irritate me. If you have time, just google 37, 38, 39 levels. Just one move level with no thinking required. Makes it boring. Previously I played, for example, tis-100 and baba is you, and that's totally another level. Both of those I still can't end, not even half of them.
And regarding what you said, I am truly glad that you can enjoy those games that way. When I played baba is you, I couldn't beat a pretty easy level for two days, and I figured out I would just search for some guide to help me get through. And exactly 2 seconds after I beat this level, I became very frustrated. I, personally, don't enjoy to beat those games with any external help, and, to this day, I regret using the guide for that level.
But there is another side to this, since I am not willing to use guides or any help at all, my progress is snail speed. If I am stuck on some level, mostly I just drop the game and comeback a couple of months later. So, even though progress is very slow, I still know it's only me who done it.
Still, thank you very much for stopping by, and thanks for your responses. I am still definitely gonna platinum this game, but it's just low key say it is that easy. I love the visual style tho!
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Thank you for helping me out the other day. This puzzle is pretty simple, it only requires some time to be spent, but I have plans to do something devious one day. And I already have a game ready for it, just have to figure out how to torture people here. Have a good day!
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Thanks for letting us know what game is being given away. I enjoy doing nonograms when I want access to a giveaway with less entries for a game I am interested in playing, but I hate doing jigsaws or nonograms when the game isn't listed because I have almost 28,000 games hidden here and the vast majority of time I will solve the puzzle and not want to enter anything. I really don't understand why people don't post the game name unless they are trolling and want to waste peoples time. If I wanted to solve these kind of puzzles for fun, I wouldn't come here and look for people posting them since I could solve them as much as I want any time I want without people having to post them here.
Sometimes I feel like I spend more time on this site trying to win games than I actually spend on playing the games I own and that feels wrong. I have a backlog of around 1000 games I want to play and I am trying to dedicate more time to those instead of using that time to acquire more.
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Makes sense. I really love nonos myself, so I, for example, would rather do some nonos that are 2-3 times harder, but at least there is a cute picture, rather than some random lines like here. But I also, from the bottom of my heart, hate jigidis, so it was infuriating, that after spending literal hours to solve it, I got a game I already own, that costs 0.5$ on steam and level is higher than mine... I could literally work for this hours and earn more money than this games value. So I totally agree with you, and that's why I didn't overcomplicate this puzzle. I just imagined some person coming home back from work, and instead of spending quality time with their family, they would spend 2 hours for a link to a 1$ game. But, unfortunately, since I am a student and I don't have a proper income, I can't give out something more valuable, so I figured I would just ease off on the puzzle itself. Thank you for your feedback!
(btw I don't hate jigidis, I started hating them after joining this website. If it is a physical jigidi with a nice picture, then I would LOVE to solve it. But digital are a no-no. Especially with those weird ass pictures where color is changed on purpose to make it even harder. I remember spending 7 hours on one 400+ parts jigidi with impossibly shitty small picture, that was cloned 10 times with different look alike colors, and getting a link without 3 symbols, that I had to find somewhere, to a 1$ game. It really is a trolling from them. I understand that people give games based on their finances, but I think there should be a proper correlation with games value and how hard puzzle is.
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I don't really care how hard the jigidi is as long as they say what game is being given. Then I know if I want to dedicate the time to it or not depending on how interested I am in playing the game. A harder jigidi would be good for a game I really want because less people will want to solve it so there are less entries and I have a better chance of winning. This helps get the game to people who really want to play them, but that has issues to because some people have a way to cheat the jigidi puzzles.
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One suggestion that I have used in the past: not sure if you're familiar / comfortable using uBlock origin, but with it you can block HTML elements from loading. For a while, I blocked the "Discussions" button on the header, so I couldn't access the forums, and the amount of time I got back was mindblowing.
Of course you miss cool events and such, but if you don't know they are happening you're not missing anything! Hahahah
Clearly I'm back to the forums but it's a subtle way of getting back some control over your time :)
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I use ublock origin to block a lot of stuff, but I would never block the discussions. I enjoy my time here on the site and I check every discussion, I just realized that I spend more time solving certain puzzles than I do playing games sometimes. That is why I stopped doing most jigidi puzzles. I do really enjoy the more elaborate user created puzzles. I find those fun to solve.
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I'm gonna go against the grain here, I think the only rule I adhere to is citing the Level requirement. Lower levels have no choice whether they can enter a higher level giveaway, but people that meet the requirement do unless they're blacklisted. Whether they choose to try a puzzle to see what's in it is totally on them. I'm all for stating what game and puzzle if it's a single game and straightforward puzzle, but a lot of people do secret puzzles within puzzles and well, it wouldn't be much of a secret if they told you what it was or how to do it. In the end it's all up to the person making the puzzle/giveaway, just do what you want to do.
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Yeah, makes sense. I already had an idea of making a train, but it would be a puzzle inside of a puzzle type train. So, in this situation, it would make little to no sense to say that there is another game and which one.
But I still kinda think it depends on how complicated puzzle is, because I already responded to the other person, that I spent 7+ hours on a jigidi with an unknown game, and got incomplete link to a game that definitely wasn't worth that much time. Maybe if you are a generous person and giveaway some expedition 33 or something really valuable, then it would make sense to not say anything and make it extra hard and complicated. Otherwise, it's just mentally painful solving something really hard for nothing. Maybe I am just greedy about it, but if you give away some shovelware, then better state what is it.
Thanks for your opinion
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For me, where my free time is limited, I prefer knowing the name of the game and restrictions if there are any so i can decide whether to spend my time on it or not. A poll with different options would have been a great way of finding out how the majority of the people think and not just the vocal ones.
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https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/JoQ5Y/should-you-tell-a-name-of-a-game-you-give-away-when-making-invite-only-ga
done. I guess I should have done it beforehand, but again, I never thought that much people would even notice my discussion, let alone write so much opinions. Thanks for the tip
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Congrats on the fun puzzle - please keep up the good work :)
As you have mentioned, it is good to post the name of the game, especially if the puzzle is harder or it involves a more tedious task, such as 5K jigidi ..haha :D
However I personally do not mind finding out that I cannot or do not want to enter a GA. I Play or the fun of it, as I did in this case. I am not interested in the game, but did the puzzle anyway - Thanks !
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This is my first puzzle. I've tried to overcomplicate it as hard as I could, but then figured it makes not much sense to do it, and also game itself isn't that valuable. Question to fellow puzzlers: should I say here the name of the game that puzzle leads to? Because I genuinely hate jigidis, and after spending hours on solving it, I got a link to a game I already own. I think I am gonna do it, so people wouldn't lose their precious time.
Mars power industries deluxe
https://rosiminc.github.io/sg-nonograms/?id=j9ruHVy0BBeuMcUbUq8pWC5C39HRJO_xGMND5sRdPm8Qyqgw78Y4Ar41598R4K4x9DE1
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