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Feb 23 2022: Original post

As a Russian-speaking Ukrainian currently living in Poland, I have a complicated relationship with my home country. I have relatives and friends hailing from Russia; half of my family speaks Russian. Everybody in my school in Kyiv (i.e. Kiev) spoke Russian back in the early 2000s. It is true, there are millions of Russian-speaking Ukrainians. But just so you know, Ukraine is not a part of Russia; it was not created by fucking Lenin. Many Ukrainians have never been and do not want to go to Russia or be its part. The language vs. culture question is absurd. The Russian language was forced upon Ukrainians for centuries, and still, Ukrainians are different culturally. The mad tsar Putin is literally a blackmailer who imposes fear and anxiety on the entire Ukrainian nation. Everyone I know back in Kyiv prepares alarm briefcases with water and medicines, just in case of bombing, or plans to move, as I did after 2014. This is a fucking nightmare. I have anxieties of my own; I cannot stand this shit anymore. Please! This is an awareness thread. You have to know.
Ukraine is not Russia and does not want to be a part of it!

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Feb 24 2022: Update

It happened. Russia invades Ukraine with another idiotic pretext of 'liberating'. To all the people who support Putin, you are accomplices of yet another crime and ensuing killings. You are responsible. Sleep well with that in mind.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrgPVLjddY
Ukrainian Pensioner Who Took On Russian Column Shares Phone Video Of Destruction

Got to love this guy

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What a freaking legend!!! Hope to be even as half as badass when I'm his age

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At the end, he suggests a diplomatic solution that benefits both Ukraine and Russia:
"What can I say? Putin shouldn't waste time; he should take his medication, go to his bunker and rot to death there."

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https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/
So according to Amnesty International, Ukrainian military's tactics "violate international humanitarian law and endanger civilians" by operating weapons out of bases established in residential areas while civilians are present.
You can be sure that Russia is doing the same and worse.
Not a single word about the "nuclear shield" Russian tactic at Zaporizhzhia, this is the highest level of "endangering civilians".

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Convenient, isn't it? =)
Orc forces stationing on the territory of a nuclear power station is a highest priority danger, yet it's omitted, like it's nothing. Fucking hyporites.

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Zelensky Slams Amnesty International Over Report: 'Cannot Be Tolerated'

The report sparked a furious backlash, with Garry Kasparov, the Russian chess player and anti-Putin dissident, telling Amnesty International to "go to hell."
He tweeted: "Pathetic. Amnesty International can go to hell for this garbage. Or go to Ukraine, which Putin's war is trying to turn into hell. As with their actions on Navalny, it reeks of Russian influence turning Kremlin propaganda into Amnesty statements."

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Makes sense they would turn a blind eye on russia's actions, then, yeah.

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Russian APC's and BMD's hiding near the civilian buildings in Bucha (March 24, 2022).
Source

View attached image.
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Could you confirm here that this is what you truly believe.
Because I really think you don't believe yourself what they said in the article.

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I have no idea what's the story here but he ain't confirming nothing no more 😅

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrVwtlWs_q4
Ukrainian forces fire US supplied HIMARS rockets at Russian targets

Look at those rockets go,
May their aim be true.
Glory to Ukraine.

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Glory to Ukraine! Add me as a friend!
Together we will win!

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-says-russia-not-interested-in-war-raising-hopes-for-diplomatic-breakthrough/
1 week before the invasion

This part really stands out

Moscow calls reports of imminent invasion failed ‘Western war propaganda’
Moscow brandished Tuesday’s pullback announcement as proof that fears of war were fabricated by a hostile, US-led West: “February 15, 2022, will go down in history as the day Western war propaganda failed. Humiliated and destroyed without a single shot fired,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova tweeted.

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It was pure bullshit. Everyone now knows who the aggressor is.

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It was apparent from the start, but now, thanks to all of the talking heads on tv, internet, and the top heads like Poopoo or the smaller Poopoo (Medved), the world can clearly see how fucked up russia is, and how big their plans of conquering are. They want Alaska, they want Ukraine, they want Europe... Might choke on that if they somehow get it lol

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Meanwhile on Russian state TV: top propagandists no longer try to pretend that the invasion of Ukraine is about anything other than territorial expansion and bloody conquest.

The TV presenter ,Vladimir Solovyov: "What part of the world's land surface are we now? One-seventh? One-sixth? One seventh - for now. As they wisely say now, don't rush to buy maps for the new school year. It would be simply pointless. For now, we're one-seventh - wait a little while longer."

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Let them dream for now. They will have many more long years to dream, behind bars.

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i think they wanted to point out, how russia is calling the truth some western war propaganda
thx for this piece of information @Bakarina

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Read carefully. Do not forget about another factor that is just there, almost no one takes it into account. This factor is Time. February 15, 2022 was one situation, but February 23 was completely different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqH3aIcjyss The West could turn a blind eye to Ukraine's military invasion of Donbass. This statement was made on the air of the video blog of the former adviser to the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Alexey Arestovich by the representative of the Kiev-controlled part of the Donetsk region in the trilateral contact group for the settlement of the situation in the south-east of the country, Sergey Garmash.
"As one Western diplomat told me: "Winners are not judged. Even if you (official Kiev – Ed.) enter Donetsk by military means, no one will say a word to you," he said.
However, according to Garmash, Ukraine may have problems from the West if it takes more than a week for military operations in the Donbass.

https://ria.ru/20220216/donbass-1773024697.html as you can see, the article from 02/16/2022
Those who take this factor into account are historians.

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russia has been pulling troops to belarus and southern areas near Ukraine's border since late 2021, so fuck that rhetoric about "1 week made all the difference". This was a carefully planned operation, probably took years to prepare.
Also, double fuck the phrase "Ukraine's military invasion of Donbass". Donbass region belongs to Ukraine, is it's lawful territory. Only ones who invaded it were the fucking russian troops, with the help of local criminals.

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russia has been pulling troops to belarus and southern areas near Ukraine's border since late 2021, so fuck that rhetoric about "1 week made all the difference". This was a carefully planned operation, probably took years to prepare.

The armed forces can be located anywhere in the country if they are from that country. Or are we going to argue with this?
As for Belarus, the exercises took place and after the withdrawal of troops took place, but then why can't there be a rotation of troops, which is also in NATO?
As for the operation, yes, it was planned since 2004 (the Orange Revolution), although it is more likely to be 2005, although what happened in 2014 went out of plans and then went down a different road.

Also, double fuck the phrase "Ukraine's military invasion of Donbass". Donbass region belongs to Ukraine, is it's lawful territory. Only ones who invaded it were the fucking russian troops, with the help of local criminals.

Well, there were no objections until 2022, there were only requests for a peaceful settlement, which resulted in the signing of the Minsk Agreement.

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February 15, 2022 was one situation, but February 23 was completely different

That doesn't make much sense, nor do you bring up anything why the situation was completely different (Hint - it wasn't)

Your country went from

Russia has denied any plans to invade Ukraine
Moscow calls reports of imminent invasion failed Western war propaganda

To literally 1 week later invading Ukraine

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So I brought the article from February 16, not February 15. That's how the changes started from 15, when there were no plans for an invasion.

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sure mate, whatever you say, there isn't even an invasion going on right now, right?

it's just a special war crimes operation, blah blah blah

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don't accuse me of your misbehavings, when you were already suspended for spam

your hilarious statement about everything changed in just one week isn't an irrelevant comment?

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reading carefully suddenly doesn't turn water into wine, the truth into a lie or some russian propaganda into the truth

good you're providing some yt video in russian and some propaganda from government-funded media once again, which was called inappropriate by mods before and can be thrown into the dumpster right away

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good you're providing some yt video in russian and some propaganda from government-funded media once again, which was called inappropriate by mods before and can be thrown into the dumpster right away

It's not my fault that Arestovich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksiy_Arestovych conducts his interviews in Russian, ask him a question about this.

reading carefully doesn't suddenly turn water into wine, the truth into western propaganda or some russian propaganda into the truth

And your unwillingness to understand the whole picture is understandable, on this occasion I saw your message. https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/sMgei1O

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It's not my fault that Arestovich https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksiy_Arestovych conducts his interviews in Russian, ask him a question about this.

how is that related to the inappropriateness of your links?

And your unwillingness to understand the whole picture is understandable, on this occasion I saw your message. https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/sMgei1O

you're cherry picking again, only pointing out things, which suits your propaganda infused opinion
maybe read that one https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/udHwj2f

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how is that related to the inappropriateness of your links?

Although he speaks Russian, but he is Advisor to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine. And so the video is presented, which is referenced in the article.
And I'm not slipping into the fact that you also provide propaganda from government-funded media.

you're cherry picking again, only pointing out things, which suits your propaganda infused opinion
maybe read that one https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/udHwj2f

As I understand it, there are no objections, but at the same moment you are now starting to breed SPAM. That's just please follow the moderator's advice and stop writing off topic. I will ignore everything that follows.

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Although he speaks Russian, but he is Advisor to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine. And so the video is presented, which is referenced in the article.

your still not pointing out, how it is related to the inappropriateness of your links

And I'm not slipping into the fact that you also provide propaganda from government-funded media.

of which medias you're speaking of exactly, so i can avoid them in the future and provide reliable information from independent sources

As I understand it, there are no objections, but at the same moment you are now starting to breed SPAM. That's just please follow the moderator's advice and stop writing off topic. I will ignore everything that follows.

don't accuse me of your misbehavings, when you were already suspended for spam

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Russian lab head supporting hypersonic missile program held for treason, TASS reports

MOSCOW, Aug 5 (Reuters) - The director of a Russian laboratory working on hypersonic missiles, a weapon where President Vladimir Putin claims a strategic advantage for Russia, has been arrested on suspicion of treason, the state-run TASS news agency reported on Friday.
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A number of Russian scientists have been charged in recent years with treason, punishable by up to 20 years in jail, for allegedly passing sensitive material to foreigners. Critics of the Kremlin say the arrests often stem from unfounded paranoia.

Treason or maybe a Russian attempt to hide a failure. On July 31, Putin said hypersonic missiles would be deployed with his navy in the coming months.

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Poopoo is really paranoic, not sure how much sanity is left in him. Shame nobody with access to him can really do what needs to be done.

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https://tass.com/politics/1490063
The original of the article what is it about.
And then the question is "How is this connected with Ukraine", although you can not give an answer, I have already written an answer.

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wouldn't surprise me if Poopoo will threaten Zelensky with blowing up the nuclear plant if we don't immediately surrender. Old fucker is out of moves, so he might want to take half the continent down with him.

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Ukraine really needs it's own version of "Mossad", to pay back all the fucking animals that hurt our people.

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Russia, which inherited worst Stalinist traditions, has become terrorist state that poses danger to whole world – MFA
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/850721.html

Russia deliberately kills Ukrainian POWs in Olenivka, figters of Wagner PMC mine their place of detention – Ukrainian Main Intelligence Agency
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/850320.html

Pieces of S-300 missile found on night attack scene in Kharkiv – prosecutors
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/850968.html

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Pieces of S-300 missile found on night attack scene in Kharkiv – prosecutors
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/850968.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_missile_system Description of the missile system. Bad, but if necessary, I can find a better one. True, only the export version, but there will be a restriction on the operation of the station itself and the guidance heads, and not on the complex as a whole. The iron part is similar there.
As it is, it is a ground-to-air system and is not designed to attack ground targets.

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As it is, it is a ground-to-air system and is not designed to attack ground targets.

Bullcrap. It is designed mainly for ground-to-air use, but developed with possible ground-to-ground use in mind.

Another example is X-22 which is an anti-ship missile launched from aircrafts and is not designed to attack ground targets either. Yet it was X-22 that hit the shopping mall back in June, and there are several other cases of using X-22 against buildings.

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Bullcrap. It is designed mainly for ground-to-air use, but developed with possible ground-to-ground use in mind.

And now the question. There is a Caliber, There is an Iskander, why use something that is not very suitable? I understand if there are no missiles and we shoot from what we have. But here and then you can get Krasnopol from artillery, if there is such a need. It will be much better.

Another example is X-22 which is an anti-ship missile launched from aircrafts and is not designed to attack ground targets either. Yet it was X-22 that hit the shopping mall back in June, and there are several other cases of using X-22 against buildings.

The X-22 is an air-to-ship missile system. Here it is still possible to understand the application for a ground target. https://topwar.ru/37561-krylataya-raketa-h-22.html

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And now the question. There is a Caliber, There is an Iskander, why use something that is not very suitable?

Direct that question to Russian MOD, no? Why use X-22 when there are Calibers, Tochka-U, or even FAB-500?

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Are we not confusing the troops? What a "Tochka-U". The one that is, it does not fly, it is a monument. If only the troops of the Republic of Belarus, but they do not take part. Or was "Iskander" meant?

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I meant Tochka-U's missiles can be used, but since there are too many modifications of them I simply used 'Tochka-U'.
And are we at it again? It has been debunked numerous times already that Russia is in fact still using Tochka-U platforms despite all the denial.

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get educated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka

If russian propaganda claims other things, it's not the truth by default, more like the opposite
Fact checking: https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-russia-kramatorsk-missile/31793971.html

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A little earlier it was written or already forgotten. A lot of "if" and "maybe". If it were in reality, then everyone would write about it.

If russian propaganda claims other things, it's not the truth by default, more like the opposite
Fact checking: https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-russia-kramatorsk-missile/31793971.html

We also remember how this investigator wrote "Iskander" right away, although after the first photos he had to shut up. Or make a fool of himself.

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you mean everyone except russia?
thats already the case, if you look up all the citings in Wiki

and i may have used the wrong word, when i actually meant when
also it doesn't matter if, when, maybe, that doesn't add anything to the discussion, it's just more mumbo jumbo inflating the topic and it's happening all the time, when you're lacking arguments

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thats already the case, if you look up all the citings in Wiki

https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2019/07/06/81154-diversanty-i-vikipediya This is a Новая Газета. Refers to Medusa-type media. Even they were outraged. That's when the trust went away.
https://goodspb.livejournal.com/1522435.html https://jpgazeta.ru/20-let-vikipedii-kak-rossijskaya-viki-prevratilas-v-rassadnik-lzhi-i-rusofobii/ And this is just in addition.

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i explicitly talked about the citings not Wikipedia itself

LiveJournal is just another blog you bring up, reliable source, i doubt that, i will write my own blog, when i don't have to disprove russian trolls on a daily basis and will write about how reliable Wiki is
both other two links explicitly talks about the russian Wikipedia, so not the links i'm posting here, because they're from the english Wikipedia, but i'm not surprised that the russian Wikipedia is aimed at by russian trolls, you already show us here, how you try to deflect, distort and twist and bend things

so all of your links doesn't add anything, well distorted; debunked, disproven and embarrassed again

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I will not write any more except for this link https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/sMgei1O
And about the quotes. Now the moderator considers this quote correct, and a year later it is no longer correct. They can also be edited by everyone. So we don't separate the wheat from the chaff.

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you're feeling cornered, lacking arguments and start deflecting again, adding your Permalink a second time doesn't make it more viable and i already answered it there and earlier here, not to mention i don't see the correlation and how it's even suited as an answer. More mumbo jumbo inflating? most likely

And about the quotes. Now the moderator considers this quote correct, and a year later it is no longer correct.

i wasn't talking of the citings in a year, i gave them as an example and how they are valid now to disprove you once again, but i see you edited your post

They can also be edited by everyone.

you were already disproven before that your claims were untrue and yet you repeat those claims. I've wrote it before, if your repeat your propaganda lies a thousand times it won't make them more true

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i wasn't talking of the citings in a year, i gave them as an example and how they are valid now to disprove you once again, but i see you edited your post

A small asterisk next to the time indicates that the post was edited. If about this post https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/AITJw3C then it was not edited. And it can be seen.

you were already disproven before that your claims were untrue and yet you repeat those claims. I've wrote it before, if your repeat your propaganda lies a thousand times it won't make them more true

If you don't know how Wikipedia works, it doesn't mean that others don't know it. I personally made the edits that were accepted, and I just attached another excerpt from the document with a link to it, which is why these changes were accepted.

you're feeling cornered, lacking arguments and start deflecting again, adding your Permalink a second time doesn't make it more viable and i already answered it there and earlier here, not to mention i don't see the correlation and how it's even suited as an answer. More mumbo jumbo inflating? most likely

https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/9srvCs0

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A small asterisk next to the time indicates that the post was edited.

yeah, i'm not that dumb, i checked the mentioned post and you can see it in my answer, that i'm referring to something, which isn't there anymore: https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/4I3bLNe

I personally made the edits that were accepted, and I just attached another excerpt from the document with a link to it, which is why these changes were accepted.

that's not the place to talk about the things you dreamed last night

https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/9srvCs0

good you're linking to that piece of your spam, hopefully it gets you suspended faster

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there were several news, how russia is refitting them to hit ground targets, because they're lacking usual artillery shells and have an abundance of S-300 rockets and how they are inaccurate and causing civilian losses
but i see propaganda sources not telling you this, because it would show weakness, something Pootin eagerly tries to avoid, because russia stronk, Kappa

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there were several news, how russia is refitting them to hit ground targets, because they're lacking usual artillery shells and have an abundance of S-300 rockets and how they are inaccurate

A target rocket is much better suited for old missiles. And if there is data about re-equipment, then you should immediately link, otherwise it's news that there are few missiles. Only it's not Interfax-Ukraine, and then they often write incorrectly there, in connection with that. that this is news for Ukraine only.

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i can provide these links with ease:

first a video from yt with 250k views:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVTNVscw1h0

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/britain-says-russia-has-increased-its-use-air-defence-missiles-2022-07-22/

British intelligence says ‘critical shortages’ of Russian ground-attack missiles force Putin’s army to use S-300 air defense missiles instead.
https://defence-blog.com/russia-uses-soviet-era-air-defense-missiles-to-engage-ground-targets/

There is a high chance of these weapons missing their intended targets and causing civilian casualties because the missiles are not optimised for this role and their crews will have little training for such missions, the Defence Ministry said.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/britain-says-russia-has-increased-its-use-of-air-defence-missiles-for-ground-targets

or
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/04/us/politics/russia-weapons-ukraine.html
https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-uses-s-300-air-defense-missiles-to-attack-ground-targets-in-ukraine/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/07/11/desperate-russian-troops-apparently-lobbed-anti-air-missiles-at-ukrainian-targets-on-land/

and there are many more articles or videos, who covers the case

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So the British military intelligence gave this data. Actually here https://naviny.by/rubrics/politic/2011/10/17/ic_articles_112_175478 this is an article about what we are talking about.
And so there is no real data. Here the rockets fell, they flew at us. The operators of the S-300 are not only Russia, but also Ukraine. And if the self-destruct system does not work, the rocket will fall to the ground.

According to Lieutenant Colonel Sergei Nechitailo, the S-300 PS provides for the possibility of firing at ground-based fixed targets. However, it should be noted here that this mode is atypical for the S-300P SAM. Therefore, it can be used only as a last resort when there are no other means to defeat ground targets or for self-defense in the absence of other means.

https://building-tech.org/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%89%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE/zrk-s-300-mozhet-porazhat-nazemnie-tsely:-kak-ym-protyvostoyat (Ukrainian resource)

And so all the articles are made on the message of Vitaly Kim, there are no others. And on the basis of only one message and it is in Nikolaev. Although Interfax-Ukraine wrote about Kharkiv. So Kharkiv or Nikolaev?
The New York Times writes inaccuracies, but this is understandable, they look at the data that they can get, and not at the data that is received in Russia itself, which has already been noticed earlier. The most complete data can be obtained as close as possible to the source, but under the condition that you will be given to do it.

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The operators of the S-300 are not only Russia, but also Ukraine. And if the self-destruct system does not work, the rocket will fall to the ground.

is this the pro-Kremlin propaganda tale of Ukrainians shooting their own stuff again?
i'm so tired of your continuous blah blah blah

The most complete data can be obtained as close as possible to the source

this would be true, if the source media would be reliable and independent, which isn't the case for russias government-funded medias, as already shown several times before
When i steal something and someone accusing me of stealing, but i as source deny everything, then i'm the reliable source of information? i don't think so and when there is evidence, the evidence speaks more truth, which is the case with S-300 rockets hitting civilian infrastructure

It's this also the reason, why your guys don't let anyone near that prison which was blown up? Beacuse else your lies would literally be blown up too

and something which is still valid:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/01/russia-trolling-ukraine-traction-tiktok
Linvill said the IRA’s strategy was not to cause people to believe something new, but rather to sow doubt and cause distrust in information sources that are usually seen as legitimate, in particular to deter domestic opposition to the Russian president. “If you don’t believe in anything, you’re not going to fight for anything and you are more likely to go along with Putin,” he said.

the most legitimate source here is Reuters, but if you trust your government-funded media more, how about you get lost and start writing in RAT, where like-minded people like you would care or is your goal to join the ranks of your fellow permasuspended comrades?

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is this the pro-Kremlin propaganda tale of Ukrainians shooting their own stuff again?
i'm so tired of your continuous blah blah blah

If you didn't know, then the anti-aircraft missile has a self-destruct device, which destroys it if the rocket stopped obeying the controls or missed the target, just so as not to fall and explode on the ground.

this would be true, if the source media would be reliable and independent, which isn't the case for russias government-funded medias, as already shown several times before
When i steal something and someone accusing me of stealing, but i as source deny everything, then i'm the reliable source of information? i don't think so and when there is evidence, the evidence speaks more truth, which is the case with S-300 rockets hitting civilian infrastructure

Well, if you look at the ground and in the other direction, you can come up with anything, at the same time asking those who just received information by interviewing people from a neighboring country. Stop disbelieving the media, just perceive them as another source of information, but which needs to be checked. Although the EU is doing everything to ensure that the truth is not found out.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/01/russia-trolling-ukraine-traction-tiktok

Is there nothing else left besides this SPAM?

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You want info about using S-300 against ground target from russian sources? OK
You posted info from Wiki, if you read it carrefully, there are also notes about possibility of use it against ground targets

I found some informations in this article:
First link is from there, I think official info from russian army is good proof. Or no???

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BuT tHeY'rE nOt ShOoThInG gRoUnD tArGeTs In UkRaInE aNd UkRaInIaNs ShOt ThEiR oWn 11111111

fucking propagandism

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You want info about using S-300 against ground target from russian sources? OK
You posted info from Wiki, if you read it carrefully, there are also notes about possibility of use it against ground targets

And as you can see, I did not argue about hitting the target with a missile, I just noticed that it was not very convenient and effective, that's all.

I found some informations in this article:
First link is from there, I think official info from russian army is good proof. Or no???

I repeat the question. So the target was hit in Kharkov or in Nikolaev? Interfax - Ukraine writes about Kharkiv, and everywhere about the defeat of the target in Nikolaev, as Vitaliy Kim wrote about.

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About Olenivka detention centre: Absolute evil’: inside the Russian prison camp where dozens of Ukrainians burned to death

Screams from soldiers being tortured, overflowing cells, inhuman conditions, a regime of intimidation and murder. Inedible gruel, no communication with the outside world, and days marked off with a home-made calendar written on a box of tea.
Anna Vorosheva was trying to deliver humanitarian supplies to Mariupol, her home city, which the Russian army had besieged. The separatists arrested her and drove her in a packed police van to the prison, where she was held until early July on charges of “terrorism”.
Now recovering in France, Vorosheva said she had no doubt Russia “cynically and deliberately” murdered Ukrainian prisoners of war. “We are talking about absolute evil,” she said.
“Russia didn’t want them to stay alive. I’m sure some of those ‘killed’ in the explosion were already corpses. It was a convenient way of accounting for the fact they had been tortured to death,” she said.
“We were frequently called Nazis and terrorists. One of the women in my cell was an Azovstal medic. She was pregnant. I asked if I could give her my food ration. I was told, ‘No, she’s a killer’. The only question they ever asked me was, ‘Do you know any Azov soldiers?’”
Vorosheva said the Red Cross were allowed into the camp in May. She said the Russians took the visitors to a specially renovated room and did not allow them to talk independently to the prisoners. “It was a show,” she said. “We were asked to give our clothes’ size and told the Red Cross would hand out something. Nothing reached us.”
Other detainees confirmed Vorosheva’s version of events and said the Azov soldiers were treated worse than civilians. Dmitry Bodrov, a 32-year-old volunteer worker, told the Wall Street Journal the guards took anyone they suspected of misbehaviour to a special disciplinary section of the camp for beatings.
They emerged limping and moaning, he said. Some captives were forced to crawl back to their cells. Another prisoner, Stanislav Hlushkov, said an inmate who was regularly beaten was found dead in solitary confinement. Orderlies put a sheet over his head, loaded him into a mortuary van and told fellow inmates he had “committed suicide”.

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pigs reviving Stalins gulags

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUYhgtQo4Tc Orwell was right, but didn't guess nation.

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Russia shelling Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant AGAIN!

KYIV, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Ukraine accused Russia on Sunday of again shelling Europe's largest nuclear power plant, the Zaporizhzhia, and called for new international sanctions on Moscow for "nuclear terror".
Ukraine's state nuclear power firm said Russian forces damaged three radiation sensors at the facility in renewed shelling on Saturday night, wounding a worker with shrapnel.

Russia wants to terrorize the Ukrainian people. The other reason for the Russian shelling of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is to disconnect it from the power grid. In early July, President Volodymyr Zelensky announced that Ukraine was exporting electricity to the European Union.

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https://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2022/08/05/15231164.shtml TThink about it, and then give an answer, why shoot at an object that is controlled. And the Zaporozhye NPP (the city of Energodar) is under the control of the Russian Guard.

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good propaganda from state-owned media again, known for spreading lies

Gazeta.Ru (Russian: Газета.Ru) is a Russian news site based in Moscow. In 2012, ownership of Gazeta.Ru was transferred to Alexander Mamut. In 2020, the state-owned company Sberbank became the sole owner of Gazeta.Ru's holding company, Rambler Media Group.[1][2][3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gazeta.Ru

TThink about it, and then give an answer, why shoot at an object that is controlled.

read his article and all your questions will be answered, there is no need to inflate the thread with pointless questions and take it as a chance to spread your propaganda, which is better suited for RAT, where you could spam your BS all day, i promise, i won't be there, heck all this propaganda can't even be called an opinion, but no you come here and offend and provoke people on a daily basis

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read his article and all your questions will be answered, there is no need to inflate the thread with pointless questions and take it as a chance to spread your propaganda, which is better suited for RAT, where you could spam your BS all day, i promise, i won't be there, heck all this propaganda can't even be called an opinion, but no you come here and offend and provoke people on a daily basis

I realized there is no answer, because it does not fit, so we believe that it does not exist. And so the Russian armed forces will not shoot at the Russian armed forces. As well as there is no data about the fact that the Energodar has been repulsed either. I hope you can add up these numbers yourself?
Although if you find evidence that Energodar is again under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then I will immediately understand that they are lying to me. I don't know about it yet.

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I realized there is no answer, because it does not fit, so we believe that it does not exist.

it's already clear by now that you only believe in state-funded propaganda lies, you don't have to point that out.

but i, living in a liberal country with access to independent media, was able to learn how to form my own opinion and with all the war crimes and terror acts russia executed is see different reasons, why russia could have shelled the nuclear plant

  • cutting it off of the Ukrainian energy grid, so Ukraine couldn't sell the energy
  • to blame Ukraine once again and be able to throw dirt at them again
  • terrorizing the civilian population
  • feeding a narrative
  • blaming Ukraine for it and portray themselves as the reasonable side
  • deflecting from the prison, which they've blown up, sowing distrust and blurrying the lines
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it's already clear by now that you only believe in state-funded propaganda lies, you don't have to point that out.
but i, living in a liberal country with access to independent media, was able to learn how to form my own opinion and with all the war crimes and terror acts russia executed is see different reasons, why russia could have shelled the nuclear plant

As you can see, I had a request to provide an alternative to the news, and not just about the shooting, namely about control. But as far as I can understand, you don't have an answer to this and you started writing a near-like statement trying to divert the conversation away. So I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about city control. https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/U83NMUf

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i know you provide "alternative facts" that's the stuff conspiracy theories made out of
i mentioned earlier that's no surprise Trump and Pootin were best buddies, because both are feeding the narrative

As you can see, I had a request to provide an alternative to the news

btw who requested it?

But as far as I can understand

u completely understood it wrong, it wasn't meant that way, maybe read carefully again, i gave several reasons, why russia could shoot at russian occupied territory, did you took them into account?

and once again, please don't accuse me of your misbehavings, when i clearly stood on topic and tried to give answers, because you couldn't realize any and in fact you're the one always coming up with new things, deflecting, distorting and twisting things

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The POWs from Olenivka where also under Russian control.
Bucha was also under Russian control.
So yes, I trust Russia to use treacherous subterfuge to target the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and the Ukrainian workers there. Russia's goal is to terrorize the Ukrainian people and shut down the nuclear power plant.

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So yes, I trust Russia to use treacherous subterfuge to target the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and the Ukrainian workers there. Russia's goal is to terrorize the Ukrainian people and shut down the nuclear power plant.

I repeat the question. Who controls the Energodar at the current time. If Russia controls, then it makes sense for them to aim weapons and invite a MAGAT if, according to your statement, they want to close the station.

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If Russia controls, then it makes sense for them to aim weapons

you're justifying the shelling of a nuclear plant?

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Of course he is. He is russian, and russians will justify every possible crime if it's made by russians.

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Could you explain why they don't do it with Rivne Nuclear Power Plant, Khmelnytskyi Nuclear Power Plant, South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant?

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It's simple, there are no swarms of Russian soldiers around the other nuclear power plants, so Russia cannot lie and claim that Ukraine did the shelling.

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So Russia can strike only those objects which it controls?

And how do you determine who struck the objects that are under Russian control? Is Russia also striking at its warehouses? Attacks on Donetsk? Attacks on Yelenovka? Attacks on the Antonovskiy bridge? Attacks on the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station?

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Yes, russia attacks on Donetsk. Since 2014. Is that surprise for you? Maybe the fact that Germany attacked european countries in 1939 is also surprise for you?

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So according to you Russia strikes cities where stands Russian army? Russia is hitting the Russian army? What positions does it hit from? Or maybe you think that Ukraine controls Donetsk? Or maybe there were no Russian army till Feb 24 2022?

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Russians never attack an army of course, only civilians. They are too chickens to fight against an army.

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Seems like you can't answer on my questions

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One idiot can ask more questions than ten wise men can answer.

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Or maybe there were no Russian army till Feb 24 2022?

Please stop repeating these lies, which were already disproven several pages before

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Then what is the date when Russian army entered in Ukraine? And how question could be a lie?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation#Russian_takeover

And how question could be a lie?

a rethorical question isn't a question per se
funny how you try to distort even simple things

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Probably you do not understand, but Russian army was in Crimea since 1783, and never left it after that.
Also if you didn't know Crimea declared it's independence from Ukraine after coup d'etat in Kyiv and after that joined to Russia. So it's doesn't answers my question when Russian army entered on Ukrainian territory.

a rethorical question isn't a question per se

It's simple question. Answers could be like "No, there were no Russian army", or "Yes, they entered on __ date in Donetsk"

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do you got proof for all of your claims from reliable independent sources?
and probably all your claims were already disproven several pages before, so it would answer your question very well, just not, if you stubbornly trying to ignore any truth and looking only at "alternative facts"

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Yes, from their government, choosed on election on 2010.
Also I already shgowed you the situation about Crimea and you can go back and read it again
And again, you breed empty chatter instead of giving a clear answer to a direct question.

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you mean that law discussion where you was proven wrong?

do i get this right, that you haven't any more proof from reliable independent sources?

And again, you breed empty chatter instead of giving a clear answer to a direct question.

the only one inflating here is you, as i already gave a clear answer with my very first reply, i'm sorry that it doesn't suits your opinion and aren't some "alternative facts", but i rather rely on reliable sources

It's simple question. Answers could be like "No, there were no Russian army", or "Yes, they entered on __ date in Donetsk"

or just "Yes, there were Russian army" i will opt for that
it's not so easy to call an exact date, because russian army was operating very carefully and tried to hide their presence, but as always, truth found its way

Also if you didn't know Crimea declared it's independence from Ukraine after coup d'etat in Kyiv and after that joined to Russia. So it's doesn't answers my question when Russian army entered on Ukrainian territory.

and if i remember the facts that i read correctly, there were russian troops in disguise in Crimea, before that illegal referendum was held and who "watched" over the ballot and i mean russian troops outside the Sevastopol naval base
maybe just read the given links and don't go on with your "alternative facts" inflating the thread

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you mean that law discussion where you was proven wrong?

And again complete lie. How comfrtable to call black as white

or just "Yes, there were Russian army" i will opt for that

Then you can continue and answer on other questions

So according to you Russia strikes cities where stands Russian army? Russia is hitting the Russian army? What positions does it hit from? Or maybe you think that Ukraine controls Donetsk?

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And again complete lie. How comfrtable to call black as white

thanks, please don't accuse me of your misbehavings again, it seems a common thing lately, that you trolls do it in every second post

Then you can continue and answer on other questions

Why should i? I'm not your explicable to give answers to all of your questions

not to mention you still owe me proof from reliable independent sources about your claims

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not to mention you still owe me proof from reliable independent sources about your claims

And resolution of the constitutional and legally elected (on 2010) government of Crimea not enough for you? You should then read more about it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence . In Crimea was completely the same situation.

I will not further respond to your empty chatter, with which you are trying to get away from the topic of the discussion about the shelling of Russian-controlled territories

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In Crimea was completely the same situation.

so you say, there were army of a neighbouring country in Kosovo, who "watched" over the ballot and made sure, everyone made the "right" mark? otherwise, it would be just another poor attempt to twist and bend the truth

I will not further respond to your empty chatter, with which you are trying to get away from the topic of the discussion about the shelling of Russian-controlled territories

I already answered this earlier, i gave a simple answer to your question and YOU started to inflate everything with claims you have no proof about (i haven't seen any links) and thus should be considered untrue, and all of that because my answer didn't provided "alternative facts" and wasn't to your liking, i'm sorry that i rely on reliable sources

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who "watched" over the ballot and made sure, everyone mede the "right" mark? otherwise, it would be just another poor attempt to twist and bend the truth

Any proofs from media independent from western government? Or it would be just another your poor attempt to twist and bend the truth

so you say, there were army of a neighbouring country in Kosovo

Probably you didn't know about it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
I agree with you, in Crimea it was much more peaceful then in Cosovo. There were no any attacks.

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Any proofs from media independent from western government? Or it would be just another your poor attempt to twist and bend the truth

i see you didn't understood the concept of reliable independent media, a problem not new to those pro-Kremlins as it already occured earlier, i even asked cement to point out the propaganda media he accused me of using, so that i can avoid them in the future, but as expected no answer... which speaks volumes

Probably you didn't know about it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia
I agree with you, in Crimea it was much more peaceful then in Cosovo. There were no any attacks.

it's annoying as fuck, that you tend to edit your posts later and add additional information
If you cite me, please cite me in full and don't shorten it, so the citings are out of context and you can deflect the topic from declaration of independence of Kosovo (2008), to war in Yugoslavia (1999), which just mixmatch things, even the years don't fit, but i see you learned some lessons at the troll farm
and isn't it the, "but US" argument again, well played by the propaganda rule book for beginners

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I also haven't answers on my questions yet ,,, which speaks volumes

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I also haven't answers on my questions yet

you're distorting again, this question wasn't part of our discussion until you suddenly brought it up and wasn't asked to me before, but maybe you got confused with all your inflating, that you asked this question to another user
or are you just some poor begger, who asks everyone around the same question? and i said no, not feeding trolls with this

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this question wasn't part of our discussion until you suddenly brought it up and wasn't asked to me before

You may not have noticed, but you started replying to me starting from this message.
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/RCjZhxI

I just referred to it again https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/LyTkEGS

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You may not have noticed, but you started replying to me starting from this message.
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/RCjZhxI

and i cited your part, which i was referring to, so it wasn't part of the discussion until you brought it up later and wasn't part of the discussion before, because we discussed other things there, is it that hard to understand?

I just referred to it again https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/LyTkEGS

like i said, running around and asking everyone the same question, which has nothing to do with the question which stood unanswered by cement and does only speak volumes about yourself
it's just another poor attempt of trolling, when we had the discussion about the why before and you tried to reheaten it.
Try to read the discussions and don't drop stupid questions without reading anything which was posted before

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Aug 7
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Sunday that if Russia proceeded with referendums in occupied areas of his country on joining Russia, there could be no talks with Ukraine or its international allies.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-no-talks-if-russia-stages-referendums-2022-08-07/

Aug 8
Russia-Imposed Leader Of Ukraine's Zaporizhzhya Region Orders Referendum On Joining Russia
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-leader-ukraine-zaporizhzhya-referendum/31978794.html

Guess that settles it then?

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Russia is threatening to blow up the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.

According to Energoatom, it was Vasiliev who announced that the Russian occupiers had mined all the important facilities of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant.

"As you know, we have mined all the important facilities of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant. And we do not hide this from the enemy. We warned them. The enemy knows that the plant will be either Russian or no one's. We are ready for the consequences of this step. And you, warriors - liberators must understand that we have no other way. And if there is the toughest order, we must fulfill it with honor," Vasiliev told his soldiers.

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/851190.html

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This cannot be, because according to Reuters, there is a shelling of the Ukrainian Troops who are at the nuclear power plant, or is Reuters lying? https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/SMlytgl

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@cement - This cannot be, because according to Reuters, there is a shelling of the Ukrainian Troops who are at the nuclear power plant, or is Reuters lying? https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/SMlytgl

Unless you have a quote from the Reuters article to back up your claim, I would think you are a moron and a liar.

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Unless you have a quote from the Reuters article to back up your claim, I would think you are a moron and a liar.

The link to your post, there it is. If necessary, I will take it from your post.
That's why I attached a link to the post.

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Go on, try to prove you are right. Here, now choose a quote. I'm waiting.

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you have to articulate yourself more precisely, it's not comprehensible what you mean

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you have to articulate yourself more precisely, it's not comprehensible what you mean

Is my question so complicated. I just wanted to clarify whose truth to prove. The truth of Reuters with the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who are at the Nuclear power plant, or the truth of Interfax-Ukraine about the fact that everything is mined and there is no intention to let the Armed Forces of Ukraine go. That's the whole question.

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you were already asked to cite, where Reuters wrote about the AFU being at the nuclear plant
and now you're making up even more things, that the AFU will be prevented from leaving the mined nuclear plant

cementales back in full swing

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you were already asked to cite, where Reuters wrote about the AFU being at the nuclear plant
and now you're making up even more things, that the AFU will be prevented from leaving the mined nuclear plant

It turns out, in accordance with your conclusion, that it was Russian troops who fired at Russian troops? I'm sorry, but even the French don't believe in this anymore. https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/guerre-en-ukraine-les-autorites-d-occupation-accusent-kiev-d-un-nouveau-tir-sur-la-centrale-de-zaporijjia-20220807

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you were asked other things
you made empty claims without proof once again?

I'm sorry, but even the French don't believe in this anymore. https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/guerre-en-ukraine-les-autorites-d-occupation-accusent-kiev-d-un-nouveau-tir-sur-la-centrale-de-zaporijjia-20220807

please cite the related passage, i only see them reporting what every other independent media reports, that both sides accuse each other and we weren't discussing who did it here, we discussed the reasons, why russia could have done it, until you came around spreading propaganda and distorting things, not understanding what was going on aka spamming the thread

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please cite the related passage, i only see them reporting what every other independent media reports, that both sides accuse each other and we weren't discussing who did it here, we discusses the reasons, why russia could have done it, until you came around spreading propaganda and distorting things, not understanding what was going on aka spamming the thread

Comments. There is the news itself and there are comments on this news. They usually go together.

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oh lord have mercy, after relying on unreliable propaganda sources and private blogs the next step are comments?

not to mention the lefigaro thing doesn't even have a comments section, or maybe i just missed it.
and why is it suddenly comments when you talked here (https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/azsTgdq) about Reuters and Interfax themselves?
also they don't go well together, because the news itself is objective and the comments are subjetive, your making things up again

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i see you're making up mumbo jumbo again, most likely misunderstood something

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If it goes wrong, it would make the Russians the first accomplished nuclear terrorists.

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which suddenly decided to blow themselves, right.

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as stubborn as a lot of russians usually are, yes

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Perhaps Russian deserters should be allowed to return to Russia without being imprisoned. They are your compatriots, they deserve your respect. They were on the front line, while others are relaxing behind their computers. Just saying.
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/OdDuHYF

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And how it's connected with petition? This is Ukraine Awareness Thread. Your message you can post in Russia Awareness Thread

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like you guys post all of your stuff there, right?
you're the shining examples, don't blame others when they copy your behaviour
don't throw bricks when you live in a glass house

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And where I posted any news about Russia? Or maybe you admitted that Donetsk, Luhansk, Crimea, Enerhodar are not Ukraine anymore?

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i said you guys, not only you, because it's a common thing for pro-Kremlins trolls to bring up russian matters
maybe you're the exception there, but never rose your vioce, when russian trolls did it many times before, but suddenly now, double standards cough

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml373MHAtXo&ab_channel=CNN

If Roger Waters was Ukrainian musician, he probably would be already killed, like Oles Buzina was

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Why you didn't post direct link on interview and this one?
If you look closer, you will see that his interview to RT was 18 Feb. But after that there was 19 Feb, and Zelenskiy in Munich claimed that he is going to return nuclear weapon to Ukraine, which triggered all further events.

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Even after everything the Russians have done, Ukraine did not want to produce nuclear weapons.
With all the Russian threats, no one will forget Russia's nuclear status.

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Being such explicit and undisguised russophile as you are though you should clearly realize the difference between Ukraine and your lovely maza-russia: without any risk you can write such bullshit against the country you are living in (Ukraine). And in opposite situation, say living in russia writing something against putin and his terrorist state, you will be already siting on the bottle in the torture-chamber of FSB.

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Probably you didn't read my message, but I call Oles Buzina there. Google who was he, and what happend with him in Ukraine. On the other side in Russia there is Marina Ovsyannikova. And suddenly she is alive and still isn't "siting on the bottle in the torture-chamber of FSB". Moreover she traveled in other countries, worked in Die Welt, and after that even decided return to Russia. So I "clearly realize the difference between Ukraine and your lovely maza-russia". Seems like you don't

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"On the other side in Russia there is Marina Ovsyannikova"
I smell a FSB ploy. It's nothing new really, practically all Soviet dissidents were KGB collaborators.

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Guy, you manipulate here a lot. You picked some random, even not compared facts and trying to build some strategy proving your line - saying something like "human temperature degrees are less then degrees in right angle".

In your post above, that I answering now, you clearly stated that its Ukraine is the terror country for it's citizens and russia otherwise is literary the cradle of humankind liberty and freedom. It is so russian to behave such, it is'nt even funny.

Let's study what you did from the beginning.

1) You are comparing the Roger Waters (with his vision in the range of "lets stay out of politics on my concerts" to "may be russia had a reasons to start the war [this horrific, horrendous war(c)Roger Waters]") and Busina (I know what fruit he was). Busina, who was the rusophilic like you, who was denying the Ukraine independence and writing books like "Taras Shevchenko, the Ghoul". And all his life was dedicated to work against the Ukraine, and he gladly participated in all those bullshits kremlin propaganda shows of Soloviov and alike. And in the end Busina was killed by bunch of morons - in very convenient timing and manner btw - to throw some new wood on the fire of your side propaganda.

Frankly speaking, I disrespected Busina so much for all what he was doing against the country he was citizen of (btw, you are so like him) but killing is not an option, that's true.

So, in your starting post you did compare the musician who state "not everything is so clear" (не все так однозначно) with the clear public enemy of Ukraine as a independent state itself and it's culture.

2) I'm replying you that in Ukraine you (yes you) can do all those thing like you are doing right now - saying everything against Ukraine and his government like you do in this thread every time - without any consequences from the Ukraine as a state machine (police or SBU).
And you can't do that in the Russia, where everyone dread that FSB can monitor their internet traffic (not saying listening phone conversations) and punish them for that. Don't pretend you never heard of the cases being jailed for the posts in twitter in your lovely russia.

3) And you again replying in your "degree-comparing" manner - what about Ovsyannikova case? Judging by you, only this case proves the russia is free state and everyone can jump into live broadcast of state news show (rly, live broadcast russian TV news? what a joke) with anti-war slogans and stay safe!

From all the posts of yours on this thread I see your naked pain of living in such horrible country like Ukraine - I don't understand how you even bare such every day of living here. Don't be masochist. Go to the most beautiful free and safe country in the world, russia, populated by people of the same mindset as yours and be finally happy.

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You picked some random, even not compared facts and trying to build some strategy proving you line

That has unfortunately been the go to strategy for Kremlin bots here. Very transparent since the beginning. They come in waves, apply same strategy, get banned, new one comes in place... Now that some of the most loudest have been suspended permanently HammerFall has started pushing more and more comments from his side... At this point I think we've seen at least 4 or 5 people doing the same thing and IMO that can't be a coincidence.

Every single time - taking facts out of context, trying to compare it to some event in west, denying everything. And of course posting links to provocative articles from pro-kremlin media sites. It's always one at a time. And the other comes in only when previous one is banned.... must be one hell of a coincidence.

I think it best simply not to answer them... let them dig their own graves for permanent suspension.....

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In your post above, that I answering now, you clearly stated that its Ukraine is the terror country for it's citizens and russia otherwise is literary the cradle of humankind liberty and freedom. It is so russian to behave such, it is'nt even funny.

You exaggerate and twist my statements as you please. I suppose I have the right to do the same with your statements then. Since you justified the killing of Jews in the post above, I suppose that you are an undisguised Nazi, anti-Semite who comes here and glorifies Hitler and his ideals.

You are comparing the Roger Waters..... and Busina

I can give you other examples besides Buzina. Ruslan Kotsaba, Dmitry Vasilets, Sergey Timonin and many many others.

2) I'm replying you that in Ukraine you (yes you) can do all those thing like you are doing right now - saying everything against Ukraine and his government like you do in this thread every time - without any consequences from the Ukraine as a state machine (police or SBU).
And you can't do that in the Russia, where everyone dread that FSB can monitor their internet traffic (not saying listening phone conversations) and punish them for that. Don't pretend you never heard of the cases being jailed for the posts in twitter in your lovely russia.

Yep , Ukraine is country of freedom. Oh, but wait, why then in such a free country do people get jail terms for likes on social networks. As we can see your propaganda didn't work here. As for me, I'm Anonymous (at least to some extent). I am not a public person who calls for anything, I do not broadcast to a large audience of people, therefore I am not interesting to police or SBU (for now). By comparing me to the examples above, you are comparing warm to soft. It will not work

From all the posts of yours on this thread I see your naked pain of living in such horrible country like Ukraine - I don't understand how you even bare such every day of living here. Don't be masochist. Go to the most beautiful free and safe country in the world, russia, populated by people of the same mindset as yours and be finally happy.

Seems like you are didn't know about the situation in my country. I would be glad to leave it now, and I even posted petition here which could give me the small chance to do it. But the wonderful President Zelensky does not allow this

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I can give you other examples besides Buzina. Ruslan Kotsaba, Dmitry Vasilets, Sergey Timonin and many many others.

So, in addition to the Russophil (with the capital letter :) ) Busina you decided to add a bunch of more of the same kind?

Ruslan Kotsaba - isn't it the blogger guy who was questioning the need to protect Ukraine against russian annexation processes started 2014?
Btw, why didn't you included in the "prisoner of conscience" list his lawyer - Tatiana Muntyan - another prominent Ukrainian (again, with the capital letter as you, russiankeeners, like to name such persons, right :) )?

As for Dmitry Vasilets, Sergey Timonin and many many others (Shariy mb to be added to this "many other" Ukrainians?) I just heard from you right now.

Who killed all those guys in Ukraine and when?

Seems like you are didn't know about the situation in my country. I would be glad to leave it now, and I even posted petition here which could give me the small chance to do it. But the wonderful President Zelensky does not allow this

I live in Kiev, pal, and I'm really questioning your being here, in Ukraine, for real.
With your attitude to Ukraine and russia, with your mindset, you are totally free to leave Ukraine via our eastern territories and Crimea, invaded by russia. You are welcomed in russia for sure.

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Btw, why didn't you included in the "prisoner of conscience" list his lawyer - Tatiana Muntyan - another prominent Ukrainian (again, with the capital letter as you, russiankeeners, like to name such persons)?

Btw, why you didn't said "Heil Hitler Ukraine! Seig heil Helden heil! Deutschland Ukraine uber alles!" as you, Nazi, like to say

Who killed all those guys in Ukraine and when?

I didn't said that they are killed. I just showed you people who suffer from the dictatorial regime in Ukraine

I live in Kiev, pal, and I'm really questioning your being here, in Ukraine, for real.
With your attitude to Ukraine and russia, with your mindset, you are totally free to leave Ukraine via our eastern territories and Crimea, invaded by russia. You are welcomed in russia for sure.

It looks like you don’t understand the situation in the country so much that you are hardly Ukrainian at all. Therefore, you are definitely not in Kyiv. Otherwise, you would have given a link to a train or bus from Dnipro to Crimea, or any other city in Russia

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Btw, why you didn't said "Heil Hitler Ukraine! Seig heil Helden heil! Deutschland Ukraine uber alles!" as you, Nazi, like to say

Poor lad fighting those demons in his head...

I didn't said that they are killed. I just showed you people who suffer from the dictatorial regime in Ukraine

Nazi all around you there, the dictatorial regime in Ukraine - you suffered so much, my boy. And the russian liberators are far from successful extraction of you from this Ukrainian hell. I almost sorry for you, but not.

It looks like you don’t understand the situation in the country so much that you are hardly Ukrainian at all.

Can you give me some insights? What is the REAL situation in Ukraine?

Otherwise, you would have given a link to a train or bus from Dnipro to Crimea, or any other city in Russia

WUT? Dude, there were not such legal state traffic existed during last years (by bus or train) but was a plenty of private semi-legal transportation companies who gladly deliver you to Donetsk or Lugansk, or to the border next to Crimea, you should knew that living in Dnipro .
But now, when terrorussia wage a bloody full-scale war against our country there are no comfortable and cozy routes to your freedom in mozer-russia - away from this nazi dictatorial Ukraine. On foot my friend - freedom is costly.

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you are totally free to leave Ukraine

1 hour later

there are no comfortable and cozy routes to your freedom

How quickly and easily you change your mind when you face the harsh reality

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I see no contradiction in my sentence

"you are totally free to leave Ukraine via our eastern territories and Crimea, invaded by russia."

and

"here are no comfortable and cozy routes to your freedom in mozer-russia - away from this nazi dictatorial Ukraine. On foot my friend - freedom is costly."

For the person who suffers from being in the nazi dictatorial country in the state of bloody war you are somewhat picky.
Don't you expect puten will send his presidential plane to save you?

So, you are just a boring troll catching ppl by their words - looks like it is your goal to wash out the original idea of this thread - that russia is a state terrorist started bloody massacre in Ukraine simply for nothing.

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Oh, but wait, why then in such a free country do people get jail terms for likes on social networks.

It was explained to you earlier, Ukraine has martial law now, because some terror state invaded the free country of Ukraine and now things aren't that free anymore. Who to blame?

same goes for leaving the country, don't confuse action and reaction

I didn't said that they are killed. I just showed you people who suffer from the dictatorial regime in Ukraine

right, russia kills them right away, like Boris Nemtsov
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/WxhkQKl

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It was explained to you earlier, Ukraine has martial law now, because some terror state invaded the free country of Ukraine and now things aren't that free anymore. Who to blame?

Looks like you can't read and see the date on link I posted here. You should just stop trying to catch me, and stop posting bullshit

right, russia kills them right away, like Boris Nemtsov
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/WxhkQKl

Killers of Nemtsov are in jail. Killers of Buzina are on freedom and works in government. Killers of Pavlo Sheremet are also on freedom

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Looks like you can't read

same goes for you, as you tend to not reading discussions and just jump in dropping some propaganda

and see the date on link I posted here

in fact i didn't read that wall of text, thinking you just linked to that case, who was already brought up several times before, my fault
maybe provide more readable links next time, court texts are hard to read and understand, so it's not clear what the case is all about, maybe you got some news link at hand?

You should just stop trying to catch me, and stop posting bullshit

I already catched you several times posting bullshit, so it's not me...

Killers of Nemtsov are in jail

you mean the persons who where paid to pledge guilty for it, because the investigation was a joke, just like any other investigation russia has no interest in

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So, you need a reminder about all journalists killed in russia? Even if we will take just moscow it will be more than whore Ukraine. If you really want to compare this - russia will still look like a monster comparing to Ukraine.

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Empty talk without evidence. As always

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Oh, how I love russians asking for evidence, and never providing one themselves!
Let's count together:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Журналисты,_убитые_на_Украине - 9 for Ukraine
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Журналисты,_убитые_в_Москве - 14 for just Moscow
Of course it's just wiki, and lists are not comprehensive, but it's RUSSIAN wiki, controlled by russians, so if anything - difference in reality will be MORE in favor of Ukraine. And we did not count journalists killed in the rest of russia.

Inb4 "you all are lying", "it's staged", "it's not a proof" and other standard russian bullshit.

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Let's count together:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Журналисты,_убитые_на_Украине - 9 for Ukraine
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Журналисты,_убитые_на_Украине - 14 for just Moscow

I see. Same links. Same people. Different numbers. As allways your proofs are nothing

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Pal, you clearly understood (you can read russian to see the links ARE identical) that this guy simply miss-copied the links.
But you gladly build your bombastic suggestive reply abusing that.

If that will make you happy, I simply replaced "на_Украине" (in Ukraine) portion of the link for "в_Москве" (in Moskow).

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Журналисты,_убитые_в_Москве

Compose another bla-bla basing on this

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Ok. Then why you and Ryzhehvost are trying to manipulate? You are trying to show that if in one city there were so much killed, then in whole country situation must be much worse. Let's take all journalists killed in Russia (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Категория:Журналисты,_убитые_в_России ) and we will see that just 4 people added.
Let's analize them. For last 9 years in Russia were killed 0 journalists, but in Ukraine starting from Spring 2014 there were killed at least 3 journalist (5 if count from the begining of 2014).
You may not agree and insist to count all 18 killed in Russia and all 9 killed in Ukraine. Ok. But we also must take in count that Russia is much bigger country with bigger population and territory.
If we take into account that the population of Russia is 145,478,097 people, then we get 1 murdered journalist for every 8,082,116 people. In Ukraine, the population (according to the most optimistic estimates, since no census has been conducted since 2001) is 41,167,335, which means 1 journalist is killed for every 4,574,148 people. As we see in Ukraine, they are killed more often.

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And you dare to speak about manipulations... Only and idiot (or a putin's troll on pay) will try to count killed journalists as percent from population. It's not a fucking traffic accidents, it's quantity of people killed, it has nothing to do with a population.

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Let's analize them. For last 9 years in Russia were killed 0 journalists, but in Ukraine starting from Spring 2014 there were killed at least 3 journalist (5 if count from the begining of 2014).

Looks like you just didn't want to notice this part

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it's RUSSIAN wiki, controlled by russians, so if anything - difference in reality will be MORE

Looks like you just didn't want to notice this part

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It's not a problem for you to find link from independent media, since you are an expert in search. And prove your opinion. Otherwise, your opinion has nothing to do with objective reality

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Independent media? in russia? Nice joke, you're funny dude!

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I didn't say in Russia. Another your manipulation, as always. Looks like you can't find anything other than wikipedia (whose data you do not recognize)

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Ok, thanks. We will write down. For last 9 years in Russia were killed 0 journalists, and 1 attack on journalist, and in Ukraine starting from Spring 2014 there were killed at least 3 journalist (5 if count from the begining of 2014).

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yeah just as i expected... try to talk it to irrelevancy... google for it and you will find more

just because that guy couldn't get it done doesn't mean that he didn't try. lol

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Yes, I admit that, I failed copying second link. Fixed now for you, since you obviously unable to search wikipedia yourself.

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There are reports that Ukraine just destroyed a military base in annexed Crimea, allegedly with HIMARS, which means this is probably the first time the long-ranged HIMARS missile has been used.
At the moment of writing, it happened just 40 minutes ago so there's still little info about it.
https://ngs.ru/text/incidents/2022/08/09/71555789/
https://life.ru/p/1515219

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Why are you sure that this was Ukraine with Himars? Here people often say that Russians like to strike themselves (like in Donetsk, Enerhodar and lot others). Seems like this is the same situation

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According to russian officials - that's exactly what happened. Just some random detonations, nothing to do with HIMARS, just russians being so dumb that their military bases explode by themselves, AS USUAL.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/09/europe/crimea-blasts-russian-base-intl/index.html

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You are so dumb that suppose that CNN is Russian official media? Ok

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Typical - you again took two unrelated things from one statement, made an outrageous statement out of it to try to get attention away from the topic at hand. FIY Just because CNN reports statements by Russian officials, it doesn't magically make them official Russian media.

Seriously - can you fucking stop this constant fact bending and sidetracking for every little detail in this discussion? Constantly trying to derail it by doing stuff like this.

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If a person refers to the statements of Russian officials, then, accordingly, it is necessary to attach a link to this statement.
But he put link on CNN (where is no any links to any Russian officials). Therefore, it would be correct to say that CNN stated that allegedly Russian officials made such a statement. Only troll or complete idiot couldn't understand it

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https://t.me/rian_ru/173909

This is better? Official Russian propaganda channel stating the same thing. Twist this somehow. Or now you re going to tell me these are lies as well? Because your comrades have been pretty much relying on this channel to spread lies.

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The Russian defense ministry said the blasts had been caused by detonated aviation ammunition, Russian state media RIA Novosti reported.

CNN refers on RIA Novosti, and much better would be if Ryzhehvost put the link on RIA Novosti article. But I think it's impossible to get more from you.
You see, nothing hard in that. Hope Ryzhehvost will follow your example one day.

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Hope you follow the example of Moskva one day. Maybe learn what the word 'official' as a noun means first, to make a lesser fool of yourself.

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Hope you follow the example of Moskva one day.

I wonder if the moderators will ban you for wishing death on other users? Or is it different?

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Don't flatter yourself, it's just a philatelic reference.

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nice how you fabricate a false accusation, how can something, which never lived die?

I wonder if the moderators will ban you for insulting other users?

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Only troll or complete idiot would believe that CNN is not trustworthy source of news. That's not russian news channel you know, if they write that russian officials said something - they mean it. If this source is not good enough for you - feel free to do a fact check, that's a good thing to do. But I'm not your babysitter to spoon feed you everything.

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LOL. U R funny

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Oh sorry, I forgot you're incapable to read. They refer to russian defense ministry there.

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I wonder how many Russian planes were destroyed. In the photo below you can see two separate explosions, which means multiple damage to the Russian air base.

You can see what the Russian airbase looked like with Google Maps: https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Novofedorivka/@45.0914761,33.5885948,757m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x40eabcc966a73cc5:0x9b735e3a8bbaff14!8m2!3d45.0912763!4d33.575602

View attached image.
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Some updates.

Mostly SU-30 and SU-24 have been there in the morning prior to attack, according to the Schemes project.

Video of the explosions and a very brief one after.

The Guardian article.

In some videos and photos a vague silhouette can be spotted in the sky, allegedly UAV, but whether it belong to Russia or Ukraine is unknown.

Probably the most important thig is:
Some Ukrainian officials are saying that it was a 'long-ranged missile', with some of them claiming it was a 'Ukrainian-made missile', not HIMARS. There are rumors already that it was Hrim-2 system.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19liUISoAls
Thousands attend anti-war protests in Moscow (2:21 mins)

Interesting video from 2014. Back then people could still protest against Putin without fear of being arrested.

Boris Nemtsov also makes an appearance in the video, he says

People here don't want Russia to be left isolated, they want a prosperous country, not an aggressive poverty-stricken country with nuclear weapons.

He was one of Putins biggest critics. He was murdered in early 2015.

And lastly we can also see some Pro-Putin supporters. Many dress in red, marching in almost military style. They have flags of the Soviet Union and Syria. They are talking about "Saying a firm No to the fascist junta that came to power in Ukraine" (This was years before Zelensky even became president)

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Russia-Ukraine war live news: reports of explosions in Crimea, authorities say | Ukraine | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/aug/09/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-moscow-suspends-us-inspections-of-nuclear-arsenal-ukraine-reports-intense-shelling-in-donbas


Blasts rock Russian airbase in annexed Crimea - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62482425


The first report from the Russian side seems to be an accident.
There seems to be no first report from the Ukrainian side yet.
However, something seems to have started.

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hahaha, funny how they call it accidents all the time, remember how the Moskwa suddenly set fire and sunk?

russia will finally be defeated by "accidents"

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it didn't sink... that was a negative surfacing XD

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not even that, it's all western propaganda 1111111

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It's simpler than that. It failed to reach Kyiv : Vlad sent it to gulag, so it learns that deceiving the boss has consequences. No water involved.

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This may be the long-announced Russian response against the Himars. The Himars cannot destroy what no longer exists.
Some videos showing the explosions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0-n9OQTeKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIV1FDYKVJE
A comment found on Youtube:

I am glad that the Russian tourists were able to get up close and personal with the atmospheric conditions that Ukrainians have been dealing with on a daily basis since Feb 24th. Experiential learning really is the best.

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wow, what a piece of human trash she is

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Indeed, a stinky barely human garbage. I'm even shocking myself by the hatred I can feel for this disgusting bitch.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has called on Western countries to ban all Russian visitors - and the Kremlin has responded with scorn.

And that was so wrong of him. Basically, he demands that Russians who've escaped from the fascist regime (he did specify that the reasons for immigration don't matter) are forced to return; many of them would be prosecuted simply because they thought they were free and publicly wrote stuff that's considered to be a punishable offense here (like "no to war", god forbid), some immigrated while already facing charges for words. And yeah, such a great present to Russian propaganda, they are having a field day after this statement.

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While the Ukrainians resist against the army of a country three times bigger, the Russians are screwed because they are not fighting for their own freedom. It's time for the Russians to wake up.

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Oh, I think I saw that a few days ago.
I thought this woman was a Russian propaganda agent.

Doing this will make it harder for Russian civilians to flee to Western countries.

As such, the Russian government's maneuvering to replace the world's public reaction to Russian citizens with negative ones will continue for the rest of the year.
A Russia without people will split the Russian government like a matryoshka, with the top and the bottom missing.🤔

One thing is certain: that individual is no longer able to escape Russia to the end.

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Zelensky 'not all he's portrayed as' by Western media: Bernardi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPWgMXut_8

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We all in Ukraine know what Zelensky is. And no sane person here is fan of him. But the rest this guy saying is just regular bullshit, trying to blame Ukraine for something russia did since 2014. Another one who was pay by russians.

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cutting lines isn't a strike, stop spreading misinformation

also your article points outt he culprit once more:

The threat is growing against the background of Russian shelling of the territory of the station, as well as information that the enemy has mined it .

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Explain the methods how Ukranian army could cut lines while the distance to closest positions is more then 20km (if directly across the river) or 100km (if by ground)?

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the article points out:

The station will remain powered by the Ukrainian power system

so if the power comes from Ukraine, they just cut the lines on non occupied territory?

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Why should the military be used to cut the line, and not electricians?

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why not military electricians?
but i can ask questions too, when the station will be powered by the Ukrainian power system, where does the power comes from?

and with that much points unclear, it's a pretty bold theory, that the lines will be cut with strikes

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when the station will be powered by the Ukrainian power system, where does the power comes from?

You mean where comes energy to ZNPP now? I do not think that there is any specific source that specifically energizes her for work. It is simply connected to the energy system and draws energy from it. Those. it can be powered by any power plant in the country that is included in this energy system. But I'm not an electrician

and with that much points unclear, it's a pretty bold theory, that the lines will be cut with strikes

Here what was in interview:

  • That is, if they move further in terms of preparing the station for reconnection, will we cut the lines?

  • And, I think, it will be the right decision from the point of view of Ukraine - to cut off the lines that they are going to connect. I think our Armed Forces will be ready to do it if the need arises.

They are going to cut Russian lines, because after 17 March 2022 Russian and Ukrainian energy systems became different. It can't be done non-militarily. Most likely it will be missle strikes again. As an option, sabotage is still possible.

Also, if, as you say, Ukraine is going to cut the lines connecting the ZNPP with Ukraine, this will only speed up the switching of the ZNPP to the Russian energy system

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Here what was in interview:

uhm, what interview?
maybe it's blocked by my Adblocker
not to mention, it would be most likely in ukrainian/russian again, so i can't discuss with you on that basis

They are going to cut Russian lines

if that will be the case, why do they have to strike the nuclear plant to do this, couldn't they strike the lines like 5 miles away?

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uhm, what interview?

In article which I posted there is link on full interview, but yes, it's ukrainian/russian language only.

if that will be the case, why do they have to strike the nuclear plant to do this, couldn't they strike the lines like 5 miles away?

It could be, as an option. But then they must cut all lines which leads to ZNPP from Crimea/Kherson/Melitopol in this radius. But this will require a lot of guns and missiles. Therefore, it is more likely to be a simple way to cut the lines in the immediate vicinity of the ZNPP.

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It could be, as an option. But then they must cut all lines which leads to ZNPP from Crimea/Kherson/Melitopol in this radius. But this will require a lot of guns and missiles. Therefore, it is more likely to be a simple way to cut the lines in the immediate vicinity of the ZNPP.

okay, i read the interview, interesting one
so it was in fact the russians who shelled the nuclear plant, i don't know how you made the conclusion in your first post, that Ukrainians made strikes on the nuclear plant and will do it again, when the easy solution, according to the article, would be striking some of these mentioned stations:

The Russians have long toyed with the idea of ​​switching the ZNPP to Crimea. To do this, it is necessary to completely disconnect the station from the Ukrainian power system and switch to the lines that connect Crimea - this is a substation in Dzhankoya, with the Kakhovskaya station, and it is already connected to the Zaporizhzhya station.

and there is some further informaton

They disconnect the station from external power, which is constantly needed.

contrary to your statement:

You mean where comes energy to ZNPP now? I do not think that there is any specific source that specifically energizes her for work.

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The threat is growing against the background of Russian shelling of the territory of the station, as well as information that the enemy has mined it .

Do you still believe that the Russian army is shooting at the Russian army?

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We are so sorry for the Russian losses in Crimea (by 'accident'), it's terrible that they can't even blame the Ukrainians.
Since Russian soldiers cannot handle explosives properly, they must stay away from nuclear power plants.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt1SQrWafOE
A little taste of their own medicine.
Hope it tastes well.

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It's not panic, it's a special traffic jam operation.
24 hours later, still traffic jam to leave Crimea

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Putin Loses 9 Military Planes in One Day After Crimea Explosion: Report

Ukrainian military officials on Wednesday said that nine Russian warplanes on the Crimean Peninsula were destroyed, but Ukraine has still not officially taken credit for the action.
Russia said Wednesday that none of its aircraft had been impacted or destroyed, according to the Associated Press, and it did not acknowledge any attack on its fleet. However, The New York Times reported that the Kremlin-installed leader of Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, declared a state of emergency after dozens of nearby homes and commercial structures were hit, leading to over 250 displaced residents.
Anton Gerashchenko, advisor to the minister of internal affairs of Ukraine, tweeted satellite images of the Saki airfield in Crimea that reportedly "show that more than 30 planes and helicopters were there before the explosion, worth more than $1 billion in total."

Tweeted satellite images of Saki airfield in Crimea before the explosions

Update with photos from BBC and CNN.
(More photos here: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/wl8h58/crimea_airbase_satellite_imagery_before_and_after/)
A photo before and two photos after the explosions at Saki Air Base:

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I'll add some more before-after satellite images:
https://mobile.twitter.com/OSINTua/status/1557440576806608897

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Wow! It seems that more than 9 aircrafts were destroyed.

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wow quite accurate hits, seen on the second pic, all buildings hit, i'm surprised that only one person died
also disproving the misinformation russia spreads

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This Tweet is no longer available, but there are more photos in the media.
Previous post updated.

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