GIF... Hard G or soft G?
i 100% agree lol, the guy who invented Gif and said its a soft G. is a complete idiot. how he could invent something so amazing and then call it something its not...... he is the worlds best internet troll
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I was in the JIF category up until a couple of years ago, and then I realized what it actually stood for. Now I say GIF, and I'm never turning back.
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That's a bad argument, you say PEE in PC but it's short for Personal Computer so the acronym doesn't have anything to do with the pronunciation of the full name and vice versa. And G can be pronounced that way (soft G) when followed by I (gin, gist, giraffe). So it's fine.
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I get what you're saying, but PC isn't a good example as there are no vowels in the acronym. You're just pronouncing the letters as you would say them--PEE CEE. The pronunciation of GIF has been debated because it resembles an actual word.
Also, there are just as many gi- words out there that have a hard G sound (girl, gift, giveaway, etc.) Why change the sound of the acronym when the first word has a hard G already?
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Well because you can, and if the guy that made it said it's soft G, then it's soft G :). I get your point but it's still the creator's decision and there aren't any valid arguments why it can't be as he says. That damn vowel in the middle has created a mess, next time someone invents a format they need to only use consonants :P.
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But what I'm wondering is, what gives the right to the creator of an image format to choose how to pronounce an acronym?
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Well why couldn't he? Words come and go, somebody at some point pronounced a word in a certain way and it stuck, same story with every word, same goes for spelling (blame them for all those pointless silent letters in the English language). I'd say if anyone has any authority over the pronunciation of a thing, it would be the person that made it up.
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Except that "GIF" is technically not a word, but only the acronyms of a set of three words - basically, GIF is a combination of words which weren't invented by the creator of the GIF. If, for example, the man would have invented the word "graphics" and said that it was pronounced with a soft G, then I wouldn't discuss it since he would actually be the creator of a word.
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The thing about it is that it's practically a word at this point, when people say let me show you this gif, it's a freakin noun :). So yeah, I would say he created a word, even if it started just as a format.
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Ask Brett FAVRE aka "Farv".
A person who makes a name decides how it's pronounced.
Try walking around SW USA/Mexico and being all "No F you!, your name is "Gee-sus" not HAYSOOS!
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A name, a word, still acceptable. Acronyms however, are a set of the first letters of multiple words of which the creator of the GIF hasn't invented. Is GIF still considered a word, in that case?
Does this mean that cg has the right to tell us how to pronounce "SG"? D:
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EVeryone knows that "SG" is pronounced "sawgoo", so that's not really necessary.
i.e. I wonder what game will win the poll this week on Sawgoo?
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Hard G. It's shortened version of Graphics Interchange Format, and G in Graphics is hard G.
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as already stated - PC you pronounce each letter separately as they are in the afphabet, as with no vowel it would be unpronounceable. GIF you pronounce as a single word - even if you choose soft G you say jif not jee ai ef
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My point is it doesn't have to be pronounced the way it's pronounced in its origin word, especially since the language allows it. You can go either way and since the guy that made it says it's a certain way, then that way it is.
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yes. and question i was answering to was not how does it have to be pronounced but how I do pronounce it. So I answered how I pronounce it and gave reasoning for my pronounciation.
Another reason for my pronounciation is that in my native language there's no soft G, for this sound we use "dż" not "g" :>
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Fair enough, I don't normally really take into consideration various native languages, only English since it's basically an English word. We are wasting far too much time on this :).
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You're just replying so I'll have to keep taking my shirt back off aren't you?
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Soft G.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/22/tech/web/pronounce-gif/index.html
Even more debate afterwards:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/gif-pronunciation_n_3319345.html
A "G" can also be spoken softly like Geoff in english. Even if it usually is a hard consonant.
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The creators of the format pronounced GIF as "jif" with a soft "G" /ˈdʒɪf/ as in "gin".
Spoiler: He's wrong to do so. >:(
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The way I see it, he invented it he can pronounce it how he wants.
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Based on what, he made the damn thing, he can do whatever he wants with it, and I see no problem is pronouncing soft G.
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IT's official then, jif it's . You say otherwise you're in denial, can't argue with the guy who made it up.
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Considering the fact that what you mean by hard G is actually still a pretty soft one where I come from, hard G is the minimum required pronunciation.
You say Jif and they think of a household cleaning product.
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Soft g, because we all know it's called Jraphics Interchange Format /s.
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I wait for someone else to pronounce it and use that for their own comfort. Unless they pronounced it "if", where the G is silent and I'm left utterly confused by the sudden unresolved questions. "Have you seen that cat if..." "that cat if what? WHAT?"
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well, in spanish if you want to sound like "gif" it should be "guif" xD
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Where I come from "G+I" is pronounced "JI", so it just comes more natural to use the soft G!
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I realized just now that I have never pronounced "Steamgifts" out loud.
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So far I am also still waiting to jet a jift from a jirl, even though lots of jiveaways are jiven by jirls here. But so far I have jotten all mine from juys. Thank joodness jeckos and jorillas don't use steamjifts.
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1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.
I mean, steamgifts
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Jif is what I used to use to clean surfaces with, until it got Europeanised and renamed to Cif... (with a hard or soft 'C'?)
So, Gif with a hard 'G' for me :)
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Anyone who knows what they're talking about will know it's pronounced JIF, intentionally like the peanut butter.
Choosy developers choose GIF.
Do your research.
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I'm very satisfied to see that "GIF" is winning by a landslide.
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I know the creators say it's "JIF" but I can't for the life of me understand why they'd choose that because.. Graphics. :S
Disregard the creators, acquire hard G's.
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Choosy moms choose Jif, they don't make Gifs.
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I am Romanian, I pronounce JIF when speaking in Romanian and GIF when speaking in English. Easy as that.
The G followed by a E or I in Romanian is pronounced dj.
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Yes!
Exactly the same with me, except I'm italian :)
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