Giving away one copy of Crypt of the NecroDancer as a gift. Because of Steam's most recent gifting rules I cannot guarantee that I can gift just anyone (I am in Canada myself, there is a list of countries I can gift in the comments according to my best guess), so if the winner cannot receive the gift I'll be rerolling. I would also like to get at least 10 entries if possible.

If you solve the puzzle here:
http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/xe64fRmB

you will get a link to the GA, I will add the winner on steam to gift them
good luck

poll: https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/SW1Mg/poll-on-puzzle-questions

Answers:
Question 1:
-The Final Chord in the Moonlight Sonata by a famous St. Bernard

C#minor (or any notation of it)

Question 2:
-The chord at 0:43

Dm7 (or any notation of it)

Question 3:
-at around 3 minutes Bach's Toccata ends with a perfect cadence in the video I linked, and the fugue starts, name the first 3 chords in the fugue

Dm, A, Dm

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I tested the puzzle because it is my first on that site, sorry if it skewed the leaderboards :p

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As far as I understood the gifting system you can gift to every region which has a price cheaper or till +10%. But this would exclude U.S. in your case (+13%) if I look at steamdb. Also I you planned on buying the game with discount don't forget that the winner has 7 days to accept and the discount could be over before.

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yeah, I rather hope they do not take that long. So I cannot gift anyone in the Us right now? this is too confusing

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Yes, you have to look for the converted price.

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I'm no expert for this but with +10% or less everything should go well

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well I made the GA not region restricted, hopefully that isn't a mistake :p

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You can delete it and recreate it with restrictions. Otherwise you take the risk that you get a winner from one of the more expansive regions and can't gift to him.

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it ends in 1 hour there's already a number of entries :\
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/N8WP8/lords-of-the-fallen-game-of-the-year-edition

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My advise would be to delete it and make a new one with proper region settings but as I said I'm no expert to the gift system and it's up to you to take the risk. If you have a friend from U.S. in steam you can check for yourself if it is possible for you to gift the game to U.S..

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I may be facing this issue very soon, I made a GA for lords of the fallen CAN + US ... I wonder if I can gift the winner if they are from the US

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you know it

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so a puzzle for musicians if I understand it well, I'll pass I can't tell what a chord is or tell one from another hehe.

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I figured it fits the theme of the game to an extent :p
you do not have to be a musician to find the answers, but it really helps

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Bump for solved!

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updated a hint, if question no#1 continues to be the most difficult I will update the hint again

6 years ago
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Nope, no way I can solve this. I tried learning keyboard, but there are too many keys and chord to remember, so I ended up going back to drumming on my computer.

Have a free bump.

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haha, there's better ways to learn than remembering everything by heart, there are simple relationships between almost everything musical
in fact things sounds "good" to us in relation to other sounds, the best way to learn is to understand some of those interactions and relationships rather than trying to memorize things as isolated bits of information

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You inspired me with this comment. I've always been interested in music but don't understand it from a technical point, but can tell when something is technically sound. I.E. Modest Mouse
I might try to get back into learning if I can find some jumping off points!

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there's a lot of interesting online content regarding music, some is very advanced and some is basic
you just need to find the content creators you click with and I'm sure you'll gain something
one video that recently blew my mind was this
youtube
also
youtube

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Going through music in a traditional sense, thinking of music scores, scales and all that isn't just a lot to take in but also sometimes boring and tedious. You can also take another approach in learning, like thinking of music as a narrative, or as colours on a canvas, a splash of green, a bit of blue and then you have a lake and a gentle breeze pushing an empty row boat. Taking a slightly indirect route can make learning musical theory and structure not only more interesting, but give it context too, so you can understand it on a different level. That Harmony guy's approach in the video is like that, and it makes that whole thing so much more interesting to think about.

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The first video about harmony is great ! I'll have to watch it a few more times as I didn't get every thing since English isn't my native language. If you have more links to videos about harmony, you can post them :-)

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Thanks.
In fact, I'm more looking for things about harmonics progressions and the way to build fake grids as the jazzmen use.

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I am not an expert on jazz, I love it, but I never studied it. I know a bit about substitutions, which can make things sound a little "jazzy", but really my knowledge lies in pre-jazz music
Bernstein - Bernie's a card
substitution
scale shenanigans

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The video about substitutions is great. I found this one in the links suggested by youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dRA28cdt5c
How to make interesting Chord Progressions with Modal Interchange

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I like the video format that was cool

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BUMP
Uff there's no chance I can solve this, no idea what's the difference between chords, scales and notes.
Also - I'm disappointed in Google.

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I can guarantee google has the answer to all my questions, I tested it personally and took over and hour choosing them :p
I also chose music that is readily accessible without being blocked by any paywalls or was too obscure to search for successfully. But I do have a history of overdoing it with puzzles >.> this is not the first time I've created a puzzle that hasn't been solved by enough people. I will try to explain the 3 things you mentioned back there though, in case you're curios.

a note is the is the pitch of a sound, when represented in written form that representation also contains a duration. As in how long the sound persists. in English notations they are given letters to represent them A B C D E F G - in a keyboard that pattern repeats. A - G and then A again and so on. If we're moving half a tone instead of a full tone between notes, we use a (#)Sharp or (b)Flat symbol to indicate it. so A# (A sharp) is the middle between A and B and sounds exactly like a Bb (B flat)

p.s. not all sounds have notes signifying them in western music, although your car horn might be an A and often is a note or other. It can also be somewhere between an A and a B without being exactly an A# in which case western music has no way of giving it a notation. Other cultures might though. For example middle eastern music actually uses many more sounds between tones than European music does. As does traditional Japanese music for instance.

A scale is a set of notes. I won't go into the details and the structure of scales, but a scale is basically a sequence of notes starting from a note, ending with the same note one octave higher or lower and octave being the distance traversed to reach the same note again in the sequence. Lets take D for example from back there. you go D E F G A B C and then D again. if it's an ascending scale. The example I just gave is syntactically correct but in practice there would be a few more details to add, such as whether the scale is major/minor, harmonic/melodic etc. so a Dminor scale would be that sequence + modifications to some notes with # or (b) accordingly. Those details are not important to you. Just know that in general most classical scales can be Major or Minor, can start from any note (e.g. C#) and the Major scales tend to sound Happy, Jolly, Merry, Jaunty while Minor scales sound Sad, Grim, Serious, Scary. The Piece for example in the 3rd Question is in Dminor, so you can see why it was a popular choice for old horror flicks.

And finally Chords. Chords are simply a grouping of notes from one scale. With a few tweaks here and there (more advanced and not required to understand the basic concept cough cough jazz cough). But basically Most chords in Classical music would consist of a couple or more notes from one scale, spaced in a way that they sound good together. An easy way to make sure notes sound good together is to space them in 3s, such as in the previous example D E F G A.
D + F + A would be a chord. they do not need to be played at the same time, but they can be. There are some conventions to naming chords that makes it a little easier to read them and write them where you do not need to keep writing DFADF for example, and can simply write Dm to signify that. or C instead of spelling out CEG.
Chords are very handy in many ways, they make it easier to both analyse and write music, not to mention being the fastest shortcut to faux playing the guitar lol
I do not play the guitar but I can act like I do just by twanging a few chords

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if I made any mistakes people are free to correct me. it's been years since I worries about music theory.

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Whoa thanks for the explanation!! Gonna start reading now.
I might stand a chance against that puzzle after all.

6 years ago
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Phew... Got only the second for now, not even cheating ;p
Will get back tothis tomorrow!

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well done :D

6 years ago
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Ahoy! I must say once again that your summary has great pointers and explanation, and I know what to look for.
Obviously I cannot identify the chords by ear, so I use a more written form... but still I am unable to crack the 1st and 3rd questions.
Fun and educating puzzle nevertheless so thank you :)
(bump)

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btw, I loved the old neverwinter game before the franchise was acquired by PW, it was a sad day when those vultures got their hands on it.

6 years ago
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Totally agree. So many hours were spent on the first NWN... Good times

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How much time left do we have to solve it?

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I keep getting it wrong lol, I believe it s a little less than 48 hours that you still have. I thought it was 24 but I checked and confirmed it's 2 days

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I think it ended now? Could you share with us the answers please? I got #1, but I couldn't get #2.

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sure I'll post the answers right now

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any luck Charlie?

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Bump

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