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well, I see nothing wrong in your ticket :o

would be my advice, too.

Same with me. I said that was for a friend,.

No problem.

I really hope someone from HB, someday, joins this site and realizes that "I gib gaem = you pai wif virtual pointzes = you gib nuffin, I gib gaem = you pai wif air fo ma gaem" Sorry, had to make it hard to read because, in reality, it is quite simple...

Has HB ever said that they see SG as trading or selling though?

It seems more likely to me that their problem with places like SG is that you're introducing a greater chance of fraud when an unknown third party is introduced. If you give a game to a friend, odds are they are going to activate it and if they can't, tell you honestly. A stranger? Who knows. And HB does not want to be on the hook for replacing every game that is claimed bad, when it's really been passed on in some way or other, nor do they want to be responsible for trying to figure out who is telling the truth in any particular scenario.

Hence, they try to create pressure to focus most gifting towards friends who are more likely to be reliable (because in some sense the gifter is vouching for said person).

That's my theory anyway.

Ok, I get it, but don't agree with their CV classification. I mean it's not like a trade or something. Some Steamgifters don't even enter giveaways here.
They seem to neglect that Steamgifters are propably their most valuable customers for bundles.

That wouldn't reasonably be their core argument at all, though. The issue is that you're giving the game indirectly, to non-familiar entities; There's a key unreliability to gifting through a site like SG and, while us users are familiar enough to understand just how low that risk actually ends up being, it's a risk that a store like Humble isn't going to want to take up if they don't have to. Whether there's artificial compensation involved or not doesn't affect the risk involved on their end.

In support of that perspective, keep in mind that Humble officially excludes support on trading of any sort, regardless of if there's compensation involved or not, and directly refers to that overall practice when making statements in regards to withholding support in regards to SG. More distinctly, it was made clear in the past that both SteamTrades and Barter aren't eligible for support, as well.

CV really is completely irrelevant to the matter of trading/gifting, nor should it fall under commercial resale [since that requires (it's been a while, and Google is failing me, so these may be a bit off:) a clear and measurable profit, established intent to profit, or discernible benefit related to furthering profit]; As such, it's unlikely Humble will ever put any weight on that element (especially if they want to continue selling to the EU, as the EU has established that their version of First Sale Doctrine negates any restrictions prohibiting Commercial Use, meaning the technicalities involved with commercial resale don't necessarily merit overly strong consideration anyway).

With Humble, so long as you indicate that you're gifting to friends, they'll generally accept that premise. Meanwhile, GMG takes an even stricter approach than Humble, where any indication that you're activating to any account other than your primary account (regardless of if it's a secondary account you own or a child's account or the like) will lead to them withholding support for every single product in the order in question [conversely, they seem to be just fine offering support if you mislead them into thinking the activation involved your own account].
While GMG is likely (or rather, hopefully) the most extreme example around, Humble is by no means an aberration when it comes to limiting support based off a user's declared usage of their purchase.

Well, then I befriend the guy before giving it thus its a gift.
They can't prove otherwise. Thus they are now forced to give you a new key else you can take them to court.

I can totally invite random people from the street to watch, in my house.

I can't invite people, friends or randoms, to watch in a "commercial" venue. Which would include a school, church, etc.
Even if it's free, it's outside the scope of what a retail DVD is "licensed" for.

Definition of personal in English:

personal
ADJECTIVE
1attributive Belonging to or affecting a particular person rather than anyone else.

‘her personal fortune was recently estimated at £37 million’

They meant clearer as in pointing out how they focus so much on "personal" use" when the actual issue is they just don't want to support giveaways.

from a totally general point of view, someone could be not entitled to receiving support but should be entitled to receiving warranty.
a game not activating should be a problem solvable under warranty, shouldn't it?

It's pretty simple - you pay for games and they are yours ;) They can write whatever they want in their Terms of Service, but if it's against law of the country you are buying it from they have no power. And by refusing to help you mean that they will give you invalid key and than don't provide a replacement because you gave it away and didn't use it for yourself? That's called fraud ;)

Under the new EU law it is. Nobody would try to do that though I assume. Too much work and they would close your account.

Thank you.
I was asking for the other way around though. What if I make the giveaways this way? In case the key from humble bundle doesn't work.

They complicated it so you have to click twice for a gift link to be sent to your email, read carefully! There's an option on the cart pop up to get gift, then another option to "send anonymously" if I remember right.

If there weren't any surprise region restrictions I'd reveal keys to make GAs every time.

Never assume anything. Ask questions if you're in doubt.

When I buy game keys directly in the store I always take it as personal use if you don't select gift option before purchase.If you don't know or aren't sure it will exist after the fact always ask don't assume because some things are allowed it means it's allowed as a whole.The only thing that is for sure is that bundles let you gift after the fact,unless other wise noted,though that is only allowed if you use gift link,once you reveal the key you have declared it personal use for yourself.

That only matters as I said before if you care about the TOS and not risking a ban be it temp or perma.If you are willing to risk it,then reveal the key and gift away.If not then either buy them as a gift prior to check out or after the fact if you know for sure you can.

If you buy a game (not bundle) you can only gift one game each. So you have to buy every game for each other.

You do realize all sites have that and even Valve can pretty much ban you for any reason they see fit even if it's not in the TOS.

All sites have a disclaimer akin to...
We may permanently or temporarily terminate or suspend your access to the Service without notice and liability for any reason, including if in our sole determination you violate any provision of this Agreement, or for no reason.

The whole point of the TOS is to give you an idea of the most common things that will trigger a ban or TOS violation, it would be silly to expect them to list everything.

The bottom line is anything in the TOS is a direct violation and is generally not up for debate and those violations are usually final. You can choose how you want to deal with GA's that is fine, I never tried to imply any way is safe, I merely said if you want to stay within TOS then don't violate it. If you stay within the TOS it's highly unlikely you will get a ban but if you somehow think that will void you of one then you need to wise up before using the internet.

So if your that worried about it, stay off the internet, because frankly, any site can remove you for pretty much any reason they want as long as it doesn't violate local laws and even if it did good luck proving it unless they're stupid enough to say something like we hate fat people so your banned. As they could make up any reason they want, like the owners of SG could ban you because they feel like you won too many gifts, or they don't like your attitude, or they just don't like you. Though just because you can doesn't mean they will, and I doubt Humble is going to ban for stuff outside the TOS unless you really screwed up, but yes it's still possible.

Though one thing is clear, anything outside of a gift link is meant for personal use, and only a gift link is meant for gifting and is allowed to gift. It's a direct TOS violation and a ban if they figure your trading/selling regardless if gift link/key. I don't think it would be wise for them to start banning at random without proof of violating the TOS, but they could if they wanted.I have not heard of widespread issues of any site banning for things outside of a TOS.

I don't see how there is any other way to link your accounts since the whole gifting process is not public. So they would have to know way of knowing your account here is tied to X account on Humble. I mean unless you dropped a gift link/key into the forum, as that would be enough to link your account to the site if they traced the lin/key to an account.

This is, however, the first time I heard of them outright saying they disapprove of this site in that manner. I know in the past people have reported lack of support due to the nature of the site but never heard of being support banned because they consider points "rewards" I mean if they consider this site trader/reseller your whole account should be banned as that is a clear TOS violation.

I'm just saying something had to tie you to this site, you either let it slip somehow, or someone else reported you, as I doubt they decided to send someone to hunt you down. Something also seems to be lacking and some details left out,as it doesn't make sense that they would ban just support if they suspect you of trading/selling.