Well, nobody entered my forum event where I wanted to gather people who played This is the Police 2—the game that this thing is a spin-off of—so I guess I can just throw this gift link into the general public and hope it won't end up in the lap of some mindless game hoarder, reseller, or cheat.
I haven’t played This is the Police 2, but this sounds like an interesting game. Thanks for the GA; hope the winner appreciates it.
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Yes, this sounds intriguing.
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Ooh, a game from my wishlist! Thank you very much talgaby! o/
If I do end up winning it, I shall most definitely play it! Chances are quite slim though... :P
Also, if you truly care about people actually playing the game, why not just join Playing Appreciated and give away games there? People there have to play the games they win
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Because if you truly need to make a group that enforces people to play a game they got as a gift, as they won't do it on their own, then the entire point of this site has gone down the drain and it is time to close it.
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I mean, you have a fair point there. But I do think that point has been reached to be truly fair. There are way too many people who just join giveaways just to get games, not even to play them. At least if you make public ones I feel like that's the case way too often..
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and a far amount of the games being given away are extremely low price games that are very low quality and full of so many game breaking bugs
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Not to mention all those people that just use games to farm cards, which for some has turned into some kind of "job".
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FWIW, I agree with Shirl. Don't think of it as "forcing people to play a game they got as a gift" as "joining together like-minded people who want to give games to people who will play them, and want to play the games they got as a gift." You of all people (with all of your experiments) know what you're likely to get with public level zero giveaways.
Oh, and I don't have a dog in the fight-- I'm not a member of PA (although I certainly support its charter). I'm in its predecessor, the mostly defunct Actually Playing Games.
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You mean Playing Matters? Or are you only in the old group, and not in PM?
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I am in neither Playing Matters nor Playing Appreciated. I am only in the mostly defunct Actually Playing Games.
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Oh, you should join Playing Matters. It's basically Actually Playing Games, but not defunct. :)
I had kinda assumed all the members had moved to PM when APG went into limbo, but I see I was mistaken.
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Yeah, I considered it when the group started, but there were 1-2 rules/guidelines I didn't really like. For all I know things have changed, though. Most of the members are on my WL anyway.
Also, I'm not particularly active on SG (as far as entries and GAs) so I'd pretty much be dead weight. ;)
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Do you remember what those rules were? I had applied to Actually Playing Games right before it went defunct, and didn't discover that it was reborn as Playing Matters until months later, so I'm not sure how the rules for PM are different if they are still different.
In any case, I think we'd love your addition. It's a relatively small group, so I feel like every additional member helps. :)
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You don't need to make a group to force people to play the games they win, but you can bring together like-minded people who believe it's important to play their wins and create a group where people can go to make giveaways with the knowledge that those games will almost certainly be played by the winners - and thus we have Playing Appreciated and Playing Matters.
The point of this site, as I see it, is to give games to other people - and not necessarily to have them played. Get a large enough group of any random people together and you'll always find some people who are passionate, generous, and considerate, and also you'll find some people who are greedy and just want things for themselves, either to benefit themselves through cards to to have games just to have them.
It's up to the giveaway creator to decide what they want for their giveaway. Some games, I don't really care if people play them, and so I'll make them public and figure that if someone plays them and enjoys them it's a bonus. Some games I'd strongly prefer that people play them, and so I'll make them for Playing Appreciated and my Whitelist. And if I absolutely want to make sure a game is played, I'll make a Playing Matters giveaway because PM members are fanatical about not just playing but actually beating their wins.
I love your generosity, and your support of level 0 public giveaways as a way to give everyone including brand new members a chance, but if you seriously believe that a level 0 public giveaway will go to someone who'll actually play the game and not a card farmer, game hoarded, or reseller, then you're being naive and only fooling yourself. It could happen, and it would be great if it did, but the odds aren't good.
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Level is pointless there, any public giveaways carry the same risk. Level 8+ even more than level 0.
Thing is, if the like-minded people who play their wins gather in a small group and the rest is considered fairly hopeless by the majority of those people, then it is like a small settlement among a zombie apocalypse. If I really have to go to that group to see a won game played on the winner's own volition, then I maintain that this site should simply close down as its existence is hopeless then.
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I don't think it's fairly hopeless. I think it all depends on the level of your giveaway.
At level 4 or 5, I think you stand a pretty good chance at having your game played - certainly a much higher chance than level 0, and I'll take your word about level 8 (though I'm not sure why that would be the case).
But if you want to be pretty certain that your game will be played, make a Playing Appreciated giveaway. And if you want to be pretty certain that your game will be played to completion, make a Playing Matters giveaway. You don't even have to join the group, you can just make a guest giveaway (at least with PM you can).
I mean, it would be lovely if every game we made a giveaway for on SG would get played, but that's just not realistic. And sometimes things come up that prevent us from playing our wins. For example, I've got some games that I won that I'm excited to play, I've just been too busy recently to actually play them (and that's not looking to get better anytime soon).
But that's where the group makes a huge difference. If it's a general giveaway for a game I want to play, I'll enter for it and figure that if I win I'll get around to playing it sooner or later (and while my hope is sooner, sometimes it ends up later - much later). But if it's a PA or PM group giveaway (especially PM), I'm not going to enter unless I know I have the time in the next month(s) to actually play the game.
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Level 8-10 SG users are some of the biggest game hoarders in SG (esp. 10). Many of them got to high level via small groups and/or dev giveaways. Now they enter every GA they can to collect more games. It doesn't mean they're bad people, or rule-breakers. But they're not the people I want to give my (decent or better) games to.
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Oh, huh, I would never have guessed that.
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Most don't. When bots were more rampant on this site, the infestation percentage on 8–10 was also a lot higher than even on level 0. The high end is very, very far away from the sunshine and rainbows a lot of users think the top end of the level chart is composed of.
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I had no idea about that, it's do hard to reach this level nowadays that it's hard to guess how different it has been in the past.
My own experience is that before level 3 or 4 there are a lot of leechers, there are, of course, at higher level, but at least they made a few giveaways.
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Mindless reseller cheat thanks.
Sadly I think the game would rot in my library, so thanks for adding one more to my hidden games list.
Have a nice day.
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Thanks for dropping nice games into the community so often.
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I started playing This is the Police (the first one) two days ago and I LOVE IT, can't wait to play the second part and this one ^^
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Thanks!
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Thanks :3
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thank you, talgaby
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Much obliged
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Thanks!
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Thanks!
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I loved This is the Police part 1 but havent tried the second one just yet. Anyway, thanks for the giveaway this one looks cool
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I loved youtube lets play series of This is the Police 1 by Splattercat (woop woop), this one also has me intrigued.
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Oh damn, didn't see the forum event. Loved the This Is The Police series. Just found about this game, appreciate the giveaway.
Edit: Just had a look at the event and I would have been an achivement short anyway. Messed up one gang investigation early in my run and have not been back for another run yet.
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Yeah, I saw the event, but I haven't finished the first game and I don't even own the second one. I was wondering if you'd even reach 5 entries, honestly. It's not a very popular game and having certain achievements might also reduce the pool there :D
Regardless, I'll take a chance at this as well. Though these days I've been busy playing games for my reviews for Youtube. A month of barely playing stuff :D
But if I won this, I'd definitely make a review out of it. It's unique and interesting enough, I'd say.
Thanks for the chance! :)
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Thanks for another interesting giveaway talgaby! I'm not entering because I don't think I would play the game.
Just for future reference... and you probably know this... SGTools offers an option where you can limit entries only to people who have had the game on their Steam wishlist prior to the start of the giveaway. I haven't used SGTools in a while, but I did a couple of "wishlist-only" giveaways and they worked as intended. (And if you're worried that the winner could be one of those I-wishlist-every-game-on-Steam types, you can actually set an additional rule where the wishlist cannot exceed a certain threshold.
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Oh, trust me, I have used SGTools rules in ways probably nobody has ever before or even since. Some people considered some of my rules downright memorable (especially when they were unable to untangle the giant rule sets).
I only do two of those per month though. Plenty enough.
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What is a reasonable size for a wishlist btw? For me, my wishlist is more of a watchlist or a waitlist than a wishlist (I mostly use it to track sales on games I will buy, but I want to wait for sales first). Not trying to be cheeky, I am genuinely curious what someone giving away a game would say is too many versus others...forgot, I also use wishlisting to track Early Access projects that I want patch update info on.
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Everyone uses wishlists differently and that's fine. But the smaller the wishlist, the better the chances that the person is really interested in the games listed. Someone with 50 games on their wishlist has probably put some thought into each game. Someone with 1,000 games on their wishlist probably uses the wishlist as a tracker, as you mentioned.
And that's fine... but as a giveaway creator, if you're looking to maximize the odds that the winner is REALLY interested in the game, giving away to someone with a smaller wishlist makes some sense.
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I wish I could say I have 100%'d every giveaway I've won, but I can't. Sometimes, I have to be in the right mood to play something and I just haven't been in the mood yet. Like Tesla Effect: A Tex Murphy Adventure, it's an FMV detective adventure game which I absolutely adore...when I'm in the right mindset to sip a few dozen cups of tea and enjoy the cheese of B-list acting. So I have won it, but I haven't played it yet. However, I will play it and I'm quite good about putting the highest priority to SG wins over other games when it comes to picking something from a genre. Meaning I won't play another FMV game before I play Tesla Effect because it was a win and I owe it to the giveaway creator and myself to uphold the intent of this website.
However, I have played some games that I thought I was going to love and ended up being mediocre, bland, or just plain bad. I won a Stronghold game from SG a long time ago and played the first 2 campaigns before I gave up with how same-y + repetitive it all felt. Perhaps some think I didn't do it justice by soldiering on with it, but games are supposed to be fun so if it no longer entertains or delights us, why torture ourselves beyond the initial couple hours of figuring out that it's not as good as we thought it was going to be?
I'm not sure if there's a site that measures this stat, but I've actually "played" played probably 80-95% of my wins here? the last 5%ish is just waiting for the right timing, Tesla Effect being the obvious example I cited. Not won a game in 4 months though, so it's been rather easy to keep up with the inflow. :-p
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Thankyu!
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I feel bad nobody entered via your forum event. I have not played This is the Police 2 so I figured the $$ to buy that ($15), time to play that (20 hours), and enter a 10p giveaway was not worthwhile. I agree with you, hope this goes to somebody that enjoys it.
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Thanks~
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I have played this is the police 1 and really enjoyed it, havent played the 2 yet but i'll maybe try it someday. This game is also in my wishlist, hope the winner plays it.
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Not going to enter but thanks for the cool giveaways you do.
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Danke :3
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thanks!!!
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Thank you very much, muchas gracias!
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