thx~

3 years ago
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Thaaaaannkkkkk uuuuuuuu <3

3 years ago
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thks

3 years ago
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Fortntitet danse

3 years ago
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many thanks!!!

3 years ago
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I figured that tangenting the thread over something that was already resolved was probably a bad idea, but I did want to properly reply to you. If my decision here is poorly considered, please let me know and I can remove this post.

Your post, for quick reference:

Making an ignorant statement before doing any research into the subject made them an "asshole" in my opinion. Maybe it was an overreaction in my part, but I don't like people instantly saying: "don't create a thread about this or that" if it's unwarranted.

The general "dictionary" definition of "asshole" isn't defined by intention or repetition by the way. Though I can see why you would define it that that way.

"Ignorant" would probably been the best word to use to accurately describe the situation. Of course the act of calling someone an asshole makes me a bit of an asshole myself, I'm aware of that. You and other people are free to think of me as such, and there's always the blacklist option or you can report me I suppose.

Edit: I've removed the original statement because I did feel like it was maybe too meanspirited, Sooth replied to me originally calling them an asshole.


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an "asshole" in my opinion [,,] dictionary definition of "asshole"

I suppose that could be a subjective point- while asshole does generally refer to someone who is deliberately offensive [ie, who behaves contemptibly out of intention], googled results indicate suggest that it can also apply to someone the individual personally finds to be (in order of appearance in definitions) stupid, annoying/irritable, or evoking contempt [for any reason].

The problem is that those definitions, on top of overlapping with other words, could make asshole usable for everything from Downs kids to a disfavored minority. In light of that, the common usage seems a preferrable interpretation to a vaguer and severely out-of-date (or perhaps even incorrect*) definition. But since you're not strictly incorrect and you did clarify it being based in subjectivity, that's ultimately a point I have to yield.

* All etymology results I've found indicate it was first used to mean "contemptible person" in the 1930s, and has never had any other [non-literal] definitions (before or after), as per those noted in various online dictionary sources. Which basically means we have two points of conflicting information, either of which could be correct. However, factoring in that most major dictionaries are infamous about not keeping their word meanings up to date, and the fact that asshole's modern meaning of "contemptible person [out of intent to be such]" is- at least by my experience- overwhelmingly understood, the modern meaning would have overridden any possible historical meaning already regardless.

The main issue here is that asshole is deliberately offensive, even when used correctly, and it seemed rather a leap of tone for the present context. Ignorant, as with pest, would have been a more easily connectable word, as well as being better suited in tone. As for blacklisting, I don't blacklist reasonable people (no matter how brusque or clumsy they may be), so.. Similarly, you can't be (succesfully) reported simply for being mean or rude- even bullying/stalking level of harassment has historically been overlooked, though the new rules do explicitly note that harassment is no longer permissible, so perhaps we're past that unfortunate period (being rude is in itself not harassment, however, so the rules still don't cover "being mean").

In any case, I think the hypocrisy (of- intentionally or not- coming across ruder than the action being determined as rude). was the awkward part of that, more than the attribution itself. There's also the fact that it was a needless escalation of the thread, which means it could perhaps be interpreted as rude towards the community on the whole.

Ultimately, however, in light of your reply, I think we can chalk it up to "being careless and [possibly] mistaken", same as before. ^.^

Humans, am I right? =O

Also, if anything at all in this post comes across as less than respectful and appreciative of your response, chalk it up to it being 6 AM rather than to intent. <3

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Sure, I can see why you made the decision to answer here, it's fine by me. I don't particularly understand why you would use spoilers in a private conversation, whilst the information is not of such a nature that it needed to be concealed IMO ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But that is more an amusing side note for me personally.

There's a certain subjectiveness to the word "asshole" as it's not clearly defined, neither am I qualified enough to argue for or against what the correct usage would be. I used it more to express my feeling of discontent than that I considered what the most correct word to use would be. I do however see your logic, and my main reasoning for changing it was mostly because I re-read the original reply and realized they may not have intended it as badly as I had first interpreted it. So I would agree (on a personal level) that the word is used mainly for intentional rude behavior.

The rules are very open to the interpretation of the moderators I've learned. It could easily fall under "Personal attacks or hate speech.", as it could be interpreted as a personal attack.

As stated before, perhaps I did overreact and I edited my reply accordingly. Like you said we are all humans, we all feel things, we also make mistakes. In the end my comment was more mean spirited than was called for.

No need to worry, I actually think you're one of the most intelligent, witty and respectful people on here.

2 years ago
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