This isn't a bad deal (assuming they've fixed the technical issues), but FYI PC isn't getting any of the new DLC.
http://shoryuken.com/2016/01/20/mortal-kombat-x-on-pc-wont-receive-kombat-pack-2-content/
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Couldn't agree more. PC is the future, everyone starts to realize that and WD is just ... Remember that kid from gindergarten who ate glue all day long ? Yead, WD became that kid.
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Bleh, bad enough they cancelled the PS3 version, now they don't even want to give all content to owners on PC.
I took a glance earlier, but a big nope to paying so much for this even with the sale.
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I heard they were working on the netcode as of...like 2 days ago. Some kind of beta or survey was going on. Has that changed?
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Wasn't this cheaper on bundlestars a while back? I'd wait for that to swing around just like the Shadow of Mordor one keeps doing
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No G2A. Either buy from official retailers, or just don't buy.
Or wait one year and it's probably bundled anyway.
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First of all: I'm not that happy about G2A, penguin & stuff like that, I mostly agree with you.
BUT WB (in this case) doesn't deserve a shit for its behavior.
(I won MKX here, the game is nice, I'd say a bit overpriced, but it's nice, I'm not bitching about the game)
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I'd rather pirate it then, if I would play it. If you don't wanna give the money to the devs & publisher, don't give to anyone!
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they still take money if you buy on G2A, just less :p
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The Steam store/other key sellers. Or Nvidia or other promos.
Developers receive nothing from G2A sales. G2A is not affiliated with Valve. Hence why it's a "grey market". It's like a shadier version of eBay but for digital games only (When you sell a Pokemon game on eBay, Nintendo doesn't receive a cut).
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they buy keys from a russian retailer (publisher & devs get money) and then resell them on G2A (they don't get money for that specific transaction). it's just not true that they get no money at all. that could only be true if the keys were stolen. and they usually are not.
eBay is not a good comparison. if you sell a game on eBay, you already played it. that means the buyer is a second player, but doesn't generate any income. this is not the case for steam keys. whoever buys and activates a key is the only customer using the product.
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So where are those keys from ? Narnia ?
Those keys are bought from russia and cheaper sources.
Stolen or exploited keys are revoked.
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When you buy from G2A, you aren't supporting the developers with you money. Your money is going directly to another Steam user and G2A takes a small fee. Those keys/gifts are bought from the Steam store by another person just like you and I. They then resell the gifts/keys on the G2A market place. While it's true stolen/revoked keys are revoked, but some of those keys were legally purchased first from the Steam store or others sites, the seller simply completed a credit card chargeback against Steam or other official resellers.
The seller's money has already gone to the devs, so technically you are supporting developers indirectly. However, developers still don't receive money from G2A sales themselves, because G2A has no affiliations with developers and publishers.
There may be cases where small indie game developers received keys from Steam (since Steam gives devs any amount of keys their game for free), and they went ahead and resold them on G2A. However, I have not heard a single case of this.
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Then by your logic Gamestop is a shady corporation also and you should never buy used games from Gamestop. They buy used games and resell them for a lower fee and I'm willing to bet that the dev/publisher sees no $ from the reselling transaction.
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Gamestop is affiliated with publishers and are authorized to sell games that are provided by publishers. They are also authorized to buy and sell used games.
G2A is not authorized by Valve to resell keys. This is because G2A relies on users for inventory, not the people who run own the site. It is not a company such as Gamestop with goods that can be guaranteed to have been purchased legally. G2A's entire business model of having users buy games on sale or with region exploits and resell them on their market violates Steam's SSA.
TL;DR, you cannot compare an authorized vendor with an unauthorized grey market. That said, Gamestop is still pretty sketchy with some of the shit that happens in their stores such as the alleged accusations of selling used games as new.
You are entitled to use the Content and Services for your own personal use, but you are not entitled to: (i) sell, grant a security interest in or transfer reproductions of the Content and Services to other parties in any way, nor to rent, lease or license the Content and Services to others without the prior written consent of Valve, except to the extent expressly permitted elsewhere in this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use);
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But Gamestop relies on people selling them used games... which could also be stolen as far as you're concerned. They don't require you provide any proof of purchase and you as a seller do not have a written consent from any publisher to resell their product. So as far as "purchased legally" goes.... yeah no it doesn't apply to Gamestop either. GMG is also an authorized reseller yet we had that whole debacle with The Witcher 3 keys. One way or another they are doing the same things with or without an "authorized" tag.
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I'm very unsure why you're willing to go to such extent to defend a grey market that is looked down upon around this forum.
You have a valid point with the stolen games being sold to Gamestop. But it's not like their entire business model is based on reselling purchased games. If you compare Gamestop, an authorized seller of video games that sells new games provided by publishers and developers AND sells used games, to an unauthorized grey market such as G2A, which one do you think is the lesser of the two evils?
Moreover, it's not like publishers have a written ToS that stops buyers from reselling their games through eBay or to Gamestop who resale. It may be morally wrong to you, but it is what it is.
Meanwhile, G2A blatantly violate the SSA Steam has every subscriber agree to..Steam is a service with its own set of rules. Moreover, you don't see Gamestop reselling Steam gifts, because Steam gifts are not allowed to be resold and Gamestop understand that they cannot violate this rule. They are already authorized to legally sell Valve products
And the entire fiasco with GMG, I am not sure. But they sure are a lot more legal than G2A.
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You don't get it... my point is that G2A is not selling anything. G2A is a market where people sell their products. Also "Moreover, it's not like publishers have a written ToS that stops buyers from reselling their games through eBay" if this is ok then why is it wrong to resell on G2A? The only one "losing money" from the whole gray market area is Valve and I sure as hell don't feel sorry for Valve considering they really couldn't care less about any of their customers. I still have games on my steam account that will not work on my PC because the games are too old... yet steam has absolutely no problem STILL selling them despite how many reviews mention the games not working. Let's not even go into the greenlight section where Valve couldn't even give a crap if what they promote is a scam or something legit. They just care about getting their % of the transaction and that's it. In my opinion that's just as bad if not worse then what the gray markets are doing.
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Steam has a written ToS called the SSA. All Steam games are launched through Steam, and therefore you, as a subscriber, are bound by these terms written by Valve. It doesn't matter if reselling is morally wrong or not. It's simply not allowed. Because Valve said so.
Physical console games that Gamestop resells and people on eBay sell are not protected under any ToS which is what I was referring to in my statement.
And the original argument that sparked this thread was who gets the money from G2A sales, and it's already established that developers do not get the money from G2A sales, so why am I still arguing with you.
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Ok then let's go back to the original argument. Developers already got payed for those key that get resold. The keys didn't spawn out of nowhere they were sold by the devs somewhere initially.... which means the devs already got payed when those keys were created. The way I see it if the gray markets were to vanish piracy would just flourish and nobody would get payed at all anymore. Devs publishers and Valve know that... that's why there isn't really any attempt at shutting these gray markets down.
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You make a good point with how gray markets stimulate the popularity of the games and developers already received money for the games purchased in the first place. Okay. I fold. You win with that argument.
However, regarding promo codes given away by AMD and NVidia, my last gripe is that publishers and developers do not receive money for those. While publishers may have a deal with said companies that provides them some money, the promo codes are meant for personal use for the buyer of the graphics card. The resale of a promo code results in lost revenue sales on the Steam store.
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For the most part AMD and NVidia codes are for AAA games and I highly doubt those codes haven't been payed for in some form... be it by bumping the videocard price a bit or simply through the publicity gained from the deal (nothing's more expensive then publicity nowadays).Like I said those codes are usually for highly anticipated AAA games that are guaranteed to make a lot of money to begin with... all they want is more exposure.
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It doesn't matter if reselling is morally wrong or not. It's simply not allowed. Because Valve said so.
same argument as above: Valve has nothing to do with keys. the subscriber agreement does not cover steam keys. once you activate a key on your account, the agreement covers it.
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Oh and regarding me defending the gray markets... Let's just say I get bothered by the fact that there's a lot of nasty stuff done by all these "authorized" companies and people ignore them or let them slide just because of the "authorized" tag. As an example take your own comment. You know all about the evil gray markets do... yet you entirely ignored the GMG situation because they are "authorized". Have you noticed that some of GMG's prices even rival the gray markets? Doesn't that make you wonder? Have you ever considered that all these "authorized" resellers MIGHT be purchasing keys from the gray markets themselves? I could just be talking out of my backside right now but hey... who's there to actually prove this wrong?
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Who's there to prove it right? How can you prove that these companies purchase from the gray market? Especially when they're provided keys and products by the publishers? Although I said GMG is more legal than G2A, I'm not defending them. Sure they screw up, but scams are a lot more common on G2A.
And GMG's prices are awful. They can't hope to rival the gray markets. Their biggest price screw up is selling Fallout 4 and GTA V for like 50-66% (don't remember the market) off with a coupon that was broken and only meant for Mad Max.
If you're bothered by the nasty stuff done by these "authorized" (unsure why you used quotation marks, because they are legally authorized) companies, then just say so. Don't use a few of their shady business decisions to defend a business that isn't even legal from the beginning.
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I used quotation marks because the crap they do is no different. It's just accepted by everyone because of that magical word that makes all the bad things they do go away.
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G2A is not authorized by Valve to resell keys.
Valve doesn't authorize anyone to sell anything. Valve generally doesn't allow selling gifts, and it has absolutely nothing to do with selling keys. when you as a publisher release a game on Steam, you get a bunch of keys and can do whatever you want with them. that's all Valve has to do with key distribution. they don't authorize stores like Gamersgate. the publishers are the ones that have a list of trusted resellers.
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After the news that came out yesterday, the best option is to NOT BUY it.
I bought it few weeks ago and I haven't really got time to dig deeply into the game yet (I had very busy weeks). So yesterday came the news that no further content for PC and no further updates for PC. From this point onward, everyone, who can, please avoid any products from NetherRealm Studios or WB. WB killed my beloved Batman and now MK. It looks like EA and Ubisoft got a new little brother.
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If I wanted to buy it I would do so from g2a. Much better service for me.
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Yeah, no.
The way Warner's been handling this particular port I'll wait until I can get the as-complete-as-it-gets version for 5 euros or less.
I'm still amazed at how much they managed to mess up the PC version of MKX compared to MK9 - the previous one did suffer from rubbish netcode and thus poor online play, but that seems par for the course for fighting games in general... Otherwise it was a good port.
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I own both of them, both of them are nice, if you don't mind the online maybe is better buy MK9 and wait for a better price on MKX
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buyed this game for about 7 euros... so .. 20 euros isnt a good deal xD
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85% on gamesrocket
http://www.gamesrocket.com/download/Mortal-Kombat-X-Premium-Edition.html
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Someone make something good and then he just destroyed...
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I just can't make sens of why WB did this... it's against all logic... The game is already out there... Throw some new characters and grab cash... After Arkham Knight it seams like game publishers want to kill PC gaming (once again) and WB is leading them...
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there's a better deal on bundlestars:
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/mortal-kombat-x-brutality-bundle
I'd still avoid it for now though, there are lots of negative reviews so dlc and all it should bargain bin for less than $10 eventually
or
they will fix it and add the extra dlc and stuff the console versions have right now, in which case you will end up buying the product twice if you buy now, see the top negative reviews on the steam page for more details:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/307780/
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75% on Indiegala
https://www.indiegala.com/store/product/mortal-kombat-x-premium-edition/59819_ig
85% on gamesrocket
http://www.gamesrocket.com/download/Mortal-Kombat-X-Premium-Edition.html
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