Failure to Activate and Regifting...

Making GA's level 1 or above solves alot of non-activation and regifting problems.
And, promotes others to join in the gifting to raise thier own level as a good side effect.

It's always sad that SG support always gets shitted on.
Especially since you guys all do it for free and stuff.

Thanks for your post. Got a question, isn't it possible to make the rules sticky,

This only makes perfect sense.. I do personally check the winners to make sure they don't already own the game I'm giving but I have to admit I don't always go and check previous wins to make sure those were activated.

Just a suggestion .. couldn't be possible with a little time to add a cross-reference check-up that compares the "Gifts Won" of a Profile with the Owned Games that are already listed on the site when we Sync our profile. Add to that a little red flag on games that don't show up as owned even though they're on the Won List of a user. I understand some games don't work properly this way (Special Edition, DLC, etc..) but it would still be a good start to make it easy to spot some culprits.

Until then I'll take the habit of at least checking the last few wins from my winners even though I never really had any problems so far with whoever won my games, at the exception of some already owned situation for which I asked an easy re-roll since the proof is kind of obvious in those cases.

Keep up the good work.. Love what you made with the place ;)

I check the winners of my giveaways before I send, really simple to do. Only had to reroll twice because of it.

Hey, Khalaq, I really appreciate your heartfelt and impassioned post. Sadly, I feel a lot of people are going to skip reading it altogether. To be frank, I even half-expect a couple of "tl;dr, lol" responses underneath. I know most SG users are better than that, but the good ones didn't need to read it in the first place.

I think the proper way to address the less diligent is: "Hey guys, please help make the site a better place by checking the winners of your giveaways for rule violations and consistent abuse. That is all, thank you."

Thank you again for taking the time to bring up the subject and for all the work you guys have been doing. Keep it up. ;)

Here's a tool that everyone can use to check if their giftee has any unactivated gifts. http://www.sgtools.tk/activation

i didn't know i had to check if the winner activated their previous wins and mine after a week. it would be a good idea to add this to the rules, at least people could quote it.

Thanks for all the work you guys do to protect SG users from scammers and troublemakers. I'd just like to know though, is the 1 month non-activation limit for a reroll pretty set in stone? My situation is that someone who won one of my giveaways didn't activate a game about 2 months ago, but has won 2 others since and activated them. Would the proper thing to do be to report them, ask for a reroll, or do both?

If there's a way to abuse something or find loop holes, some people will do it. Unfortunate, but that's the way it is.

I have considered giving away a used key as the initial key.
But, it seems like a dick move, so I didn't do it.

It would be an interesting feature though, for Steam Gifts to automatically send a fake key initially and have the user type in the name of the game the key is for. Kind of like a "Capcha". But I don't know if people would be down for that because it's such a strange concept.
Scratch that, if it's a standard, then that kind of defeats the purpose - people will find ways around that too.

tl;dr:
Put CV level on your giveaways. And support guise, check my half-of-year-old tickets pl0x. Thx

I find it problematic that currently every giveaway creator has to do this every time. The tool mentioned above is immensively helpful (thanks joejoebuckbuck) but such occurrences should be marked in the profile. Once it has been found out that you have regifted or not activated the gift, it should be marked on your profile with the possible suspension mark. The data is available anyway (not the suspension info thought) if one decides to do the investigation so why make it harder on purpose? Now when I spot non-activated win, I have no idea has the user already been suspended it for not. This results in a) waste of time for gifters because of checks, b) unrequired reports and waste of support's resources and c) likely more problems for people who have already suffered their penalty.

I know support is swamped with tickets and all, and i am glad SGv2 gave option to blacklist people so we can do our own "mini support" and potenitally share info about abusers with friends/groups.

I personaly stopped sending tickets since i have pending reports that are almost 3 years old and it is sort of disheartening.

And yeah it is better to reroll abuser that won if you find one than see that you screwed up and gave game to abuser after the fact, since there is big chance he won't be punished :P

Don't be mad. When I said Support staff really only sit around, drinking champagne and smoking crack with hookers, I said it with a tone of admiration and envy.

Private profiles. :(
Btw, I haven't seen this mentioned: http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/6fClz/userscript-links-on-profile-to-steamgifts-tools-real-cvnot-activated-gifts/search?page=31337 (or I missed it?)

I always try to do that and it's the reason I did the not-activated checker in sgtools.

The problem is that steam api is a big mess and fails to properly detect some games and MOST of the DLCs and "deluxe editions".

Haven't read your whole post, but do you know if as gifter, one can chose to reroll a winner without having to give a reason?

If yes, what to expect apart from probably being blacklisted by the initial winner.

this is just the post i wanted to see. got a question (if you got a minute):
currently, there is no way to know if someone got your key, activated on another account and told you that you gave him a wrong key. right?
i mean, someone will have to be a real jerk, but what about adding an option to "mark" someone who claims he got a duped key, just to see if it's a repeat pattern. users can't do that, cause it's calling out and such.

had twice in the past wrong keys (my GA). all sorted out in the end, but i couldn't shake the though of abusing the system.

BUMP. I think u guys are doing a great job. Personally i wish the regifters would just get banned instead of suspended for a couple of weeks. but thats just me :).

I do feel the number of regifters seems to be growing a lot faster.

What happens after someone regifts or resells the win? The key/gift is used already. xD Poor GA creator then.

Semi-offtopic, but I have a question, Khalaq (not really related to this thread):the second guy who won my Detour giveaway accepted the gift, activated it, but didn't mark as recieved. He logged on the site, he also is online on Steam but I cannot ask him to mark it because I cannot contact him - he declines my friend invite. I know that the CV for that giveaway is not much, but c'mon - you got the gift, mark it! What should I do: wait until those 7 days end, and contact support?

Just learned my lesson yesterday.
You guys are totally awesome. Support was there for me immediately, even though I was totally panicked (and not quite understandable, probably). Although the problem will stay with me for a while, at least I know now what to do to not make it happen in the future.
Thank you for this safety net we got here.

I once checked my previous winners, found one, reported it
1 year has passed and no response from support so i never checked again :|