How We're Planning to Fix Bundle Keys and Contributor Values (Option #1 Revised)

100% behind this.

I'll take it.

I think this is fair, and the best idea so far, although a few potential issues haven't been addressed (such as games from humble bundles which cannot be given separately, should they really be in this list?)

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"We created a list of bundles and abused games with start dates. It's a work in progress, and if you believe we need to make any changes, post here." under "here"

I think this is the best option, cg. It nullifies complaints about peoples' contributor values being suddenly dropped retroactively as a game suddenly gets a bundle.

Thank you for all your hard work and time, cg and the mod staff.

I actually don't mind this solution. The only issue I can possibly see with it is $25.01 being the new $0.01. The past action bit I like. I no longer need to fear giving away an indie game in the future that it might one day in the future be bundled.

IMO, if the person has given away all bundle games, I'd like to see their contributor value stay at $0 until they make a giveaway for at least 1 non-bundle game, then they get the $25 contributor value from their previous bundle games.

best solution thank you cg.. Now only issues left are IGN prime and beta key abusers.. Also I'd like to see lucid and faerie solitaire in the bundle/exploited games list since giveaways are all from reddit free keys..

:S i kinda confused but it wont affect me anyway :D

Really good solution with the added start date.

From all the solutions from the admins, this is the best so far.

I think this is the best solution so far, it gives new users a break and gives people who made legit giveaways before bundles existed their full points value. If anything, I think $25 might be a bit high, but it's a minor point.

meh.. still the same like the old #1 version just 0 $ became 30 $ (25$+ 20%); as i see it, its not improved, it is worse.. can't you make it stay at 0 and make a "sistem" to verify users that they gave giftable copies when they made giveaways for games that were in bundle? screenshoots from gifting history?

Thats the best solution so far. I like it!

I have nothing to add now. Everything else, in the lines of 'But what if I bought the game before it was in a bundle and stored it in my inventory waiting for it to get better like good old wine' can be disregarded as unimportant.
I fully support this solution.

In my eyes you are just punishing everyone because some people can't follow the rules but yeah.

Did anyone else just thought about possibility of a new breed of contributor giveaways, set to $25.01 value? xD

(EDIT: or rather, as dys's reply suggests, $30.01? xD ouch)

Good stuff with those revisions, especially the date tracking.

I'm way too sleep-deprived to think this through too much right now, but on the surface it sounds good. I like that it allows $25 worth of leeway for "legitimate" games that might get hit as collateral damage (e.g. a Bastion gift giveaway made today, after the HIB).

There's one thing that I'm a little confused about, though. All of these discussions seem to center around the idea that rampant bundle giveaways are a problem because people are abusing them for contributor status, so we need to find a way to fix the contributor system so having tons of bundle game giveaways is no longer a problem. However, unless my memory is off bundle games have been prohibited since I first got here, before the contributor system was in place. I always assumed that was due to a combination of bundle TOSes and fear of people abusing getting a Steam key + DRM-free copy to essentially duplicate the game. Am I wrong about that? Are there going to be any restrictions on allowing bundle giveaways, or is the new policy just going to be to leave it up to the individual to decide what they can or cannot do? I don't really have strong feelings one way or another, just trying to understand what the goal is.

Repost from other thread.
So if someone will decide to make, for example Aquaria giveaway (shame on me, still have it only in my wishlist), there will be no point in it as it was in 1 and 2 year old bundles, so he won't rise contributor scores.

Perfect! I dont mind about the contributer value but I just wanna get rid of some bundle keys (and NOT giving it to ninja's).
So a great solution imo!

Yes, it is the best solution by far in comparison to other ones that were suggested, its just sad that community needs to b regulated like this on a giveaway site.

This sounds nice.

Are we going to take a look at the point cost of bundle giveaways?
Listing individually now gives a much larger Contributor value, assuming you have the existing contribution to work with.

Sounds like a good start. However, what happened to that plan to do a complete sweep of them or something along those lines? And while devaluation helps deter those who think value matters or want to abuse that aspect of it, has the plan changed from keeping them off of the site to allowing them but making them worth less? I might have missed that little detail if so.

i am okay with anything. love the site and if the staff want to implement there own vision to the site. i can only say go for it and the community will tell what they think after the first use