Seriously. We would go through a true renaissance period if more developers were like him and just didn't put up with gamer bullshit. No pretenses or PR or pandering. Just acknowledge that gamers are fucking awful people, despite the games themselves having infinite potential for beauty and complexity.

I firmly believe that video games are the culmination of all art forms, wasted on some of the shittiest people in the world. The type of people that fill the cesspool that is /r/gaming.

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So basically insulting any and every user of PC is ok? Really? Well, I got one for you and Phil Fish. Fuck you. Each other if possible by any chance.

1 decade ago
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I don't see anything wrong with Phil Fish.

1 decade ago
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Just read his Twitter account, he's got no filter whatsoever. He's just generally an asshole.

1 decade ago
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I don't like Phil's attitude whatsoever, but he made a pretty decent game that's worth the $9 to me. Unlike countless others I'm not going to let my personal opinion of him affect my decision to buy what could be a game I really enjoy.

But yeah, Phil's a douchebag man...

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When I first saw Indie Game I identified with his passion for what he does, coupled with frustration in the face of all the scrutiny he was under. And I see the crude remarks he seems to like making and how he just takes pot shots at his critics, and honestly I can see where he's coming from there too. It's definitely not alright at the end of the day but I get it.

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http://neutronized.com/games/SkyIsland/

Pretty good game and it's basically the same thing...but it's free. Regardless of your personal opinion on Phil Fish, he shamelessly took an earlier game concept, put a $ sign on it, and shouted how revolutionary it is from the high heavens.

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Thought process:

  1. Well, I guess that's shitty but if he really upped the presentation and artistry to it then I don't know. That sort of thing happens all the time.

  2. I'll try playing it and judge for myself.

  3. ......Fuck.

1 decade ago
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wow, that thing is awesome.

1 decade ago
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Anyone remember Super Paper Mario? It also had the whole 2D-3D platformer thing.

1 decade ago
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Nice one, I didn't know about this game. Looks fun tho :) I might as well skip FEZ just because of Fish.

1 decade ago
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I've played at least 2 games with this same general gameplay mechanic on Kongregate alone (Sky Island being one of them). It isn't a new idea, but it is well-executed with excellent art and music, and more levels.

Before anyone whines about him copying those, you know that many (if not most) games are new interpretations of classic ideas. As a simple example, counter-strike was in no way a new idea; games like it gain respect and popularity through excellent execution (and in the case of CS, moddability).

1 decade ago
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Obvious troll is obvious.

1 decade ago
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Tiny bit exaggerated genuine opinions. But you know what? Only a tiny bit. :|

1 decade ago
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Phil is a bitch

1 decade ago
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I'd love for Phil Fish to leave me an insult on my profile.

1 decade ago
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Seems to me you have a pretty low criteria for heroes

1 decade ago
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My other heroes include Luis Guzman and Ke$ha.

1 decade ago
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That just proves his point... (Luis Guzman is alright, but Ke$ha, really? ._.)

1 decade ago
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...lol

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Are we really?

I could understand if One Direction would acknowledge that all their fans are gay, but gamers? what have we done?

1 decade ago
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I could understand if One Direction will acknowledge that all their fans are gay

Reading this post made my retinas sizzle with irony.

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Phil actually says what all developers think: The gaming community has a lot of real dicks in it. I can imagine that he gets tired of all complaints. Just take a look at Cube World for example: MOST people are only complaining about the game not being available and just a small amount actually shows respect for the developer.

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Oh please. The whole world is not any one community. He himself is no exception to this. Humanity is an abhorrent creature, not just any one community. Also why should he get any more respect than any other artist of the current generation? History shows us that pretty much all artists get the short end of the stick, but THEY choose to do it.

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I don't say HE should get more respect, I just say that developers usually don't get enough respect based on what I see over at wollay (Cube World) and others.

1 decade ago
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I am pretty sure Phil is the type of dude if you were playing him in a multiplayer game and were beating him he would yell hacks, cheater, etc...

1 decade ago
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Honestly, I would picture rage quiting.

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That would most likely come next, then he would log onto twitter and call the guy a hacker or something.

1 decade ago
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Yeah, and using the persons gamertag so his fans can harass him.. Wait... that last part sounds fun... I want fans now. Especially ones that let me be rude and insulting to them.

1 decade ago
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and he would totally report you with every "friend" mod that he can get.

1 decade ago
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After that he will find where you live and poop on your lawn.

1 decade ago
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Who the hell is Phil Fish?

1 decade ago
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Developer of Fez

1 decade ago
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Now I should ask "what the hell is Fez" but I think it's just another indie game that I don't give a fuck about. I know that I shouldn't start that discussion cause I don't really care who that guy is and what he said...

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It is an indie game, it's actually pretty fun too.

1 decade ago
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Yeah I think while we're at it waiters should call restaurant patrons ungrateful idiots. It's not like we're paying for a product or service or anything, right?

Phil Fish needs a reality check, if he doesn't want criticism then release the game for free and suddenly he can say whatever he wants but no- he's providing a service in exchange for money and if he doesn't provide what we consider a fair trade then he better change whatever he's doing because we're the ones holding the cash and he better dance for it because he's the ungrateful asshole in this whole argument.

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What he's offering is a fair trade. There's nothing wrong with his game. So buy it or don't. If you're one of the many people choosing to spend your time talking shit about his game and aren't willing to play it you're not "Paying for a product or service or anything". I wouldn't go to your restaurant and stand in the waiting area and point at you and your cooks and go "THESE GUYS ARE PRICKS DON'T EAT HERE. I'M NOT GONNA."

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No one is in his restaurant. We are just here in the neighborhood talking about what a prick is the local cook and that some would not eat there :P

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He's more than welcome to say gamers are ungrateful cunts... hell, I'd probably agree with him.

I just find it funny when he says things like "Fez is for consoles, not PC", "PC's are for spreadsheets" and "it's not about money"... then proceeds to release the game on PC a year later. I'm leaning less towards him being a misunderstood genius and more towards... well... an ungrateful cunt. Ironically, not unlike those he criticizes. I'll still likely buy and play his game at some point though.

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Phil Fish is pretty awful people too, actually.

I like Fez, though. Good game.

1 decade ago
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Phil's a mediocre developer (compared to fellow indies) who whines a lot and has no idea when to shut his mouth in general. I suggest looking elsewhere for your hero.

1 decade ago
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Thanks Phil, now gtfo

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Closed 1 decade ago by revco32.