Would you block those accounts in my place?
There are over 125 million Steam users, so assuming half of them (62.5 million) are bots, all he would have to do is block 171 thousand each day for a year to get rid of them. No problem, right? :p
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Some guy wrote a script that isn't even working properly that scans STM as well as my ASF STM listing for people in order to send them STM trade.
This wouldn't even be problematic if that script worked properly, but like Madu said above, 3/4 of those trades are simply invalid and ASF has to deny them outright for not being neutral+. This is not a problem for you and other ASF users, as ASF is handling this bullshit automatically, but I don't like it either how somebody exploits STM and doesn't even do it right to begin with.
Keep in mind you have !bladd in ASF available just in case, assuming you don't want to block them on Steam.
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Does it simply auto-reject all offers from those accounts so they don't clog up the notifications? I assume so, if it is not just a fancy way of adding accounts to the Steam block list.
At any rate, it is not the neutrality of the trade that bothers me, I purposefully left the trading settings at "accept any"; it is the volume they seem to move around daily for sheer profiting from other inventories.
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Does it simply auto-reject all offers from those accounts so they don't clog up the notifications? I assume so, if it is not just a fancy way of adding accounts to the Steam block list.
Yes if the bot is set on IsBotAccount: true. Otherwise ASF relies on you rejecting the trades, since otherwise every valid trade that isn't matching STM rules would be auto-rejected as well.
At any rate, it is not the neutrality of the trade that bothers me, I purposefully left the trading settings at "accept any"; it is the volume they seem to move around daily for sheer profiting from other inventories.
This is happening with STM since a while now, but I always repeat that ASF users have nothing to worry about - if the trade is not neutral+, then it's not being accepted, and if it is then at worst case you're not losing any badge progress, and at best it helps you too. I just don't suggest matching everything on primary accounts if you care about badge completion.
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Hi everyone. I am developer of this program which you guys don’t like so much with no reason.
I support Archi and talgaby comments.
I have no idea why u decided to hate my software. I developed it for narrow circle of people that want to finish their sets of cards automatically. You are right, AutoSTM exploit your bots. But when you start STM bot you are just trying to finish your sets and get profit in passive way or just have altruistic intentions. Both of this points do not contradict with accepting trades of AutoSTM users.
Your blaming "drastic increase of trades" just have no significance. STM bot is just passively opened in background.
AutoSTM have two trade modes of trading - "with ANY bots" and "with STM bots". Both algorithm in last version of my program is 100% correct. It was tested for a long time of work and by trading with all bots of Archi listing. So trades declining is happening for another reasons.
Cost of my program is 3000 RUB for 1 steam ID if it matters. Not 4000-6000.
If you have any questions you can ask : )
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What about the fact that most of the trades created by your program are invalid because they are not neutral ?
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Oh yes, accepting trades from AutoSTM pretty much does defeat the altruistic intentions. You are selling it for money and people are using the bot to create sets they can sell for more money than they paid you. It is as opposing what altruism means as possible. So I will keep blocking each and every one of users as soon as I find them and recommend everyone else I know to do the same. And this is the altruistic response instead of switching to straight up to neutral+ deals only, because that would shut out actual human users who really do want to just create sets for their own instead of selling them for CS:GO keys.
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Generally those bots spam users listed in ASF Public Listing - there was some information about it in original release post but now it's gone. If you use ASF you can opt out of public listing if you disable statistics sending. Bots use SDA-alike to autoconfirm trades so they can spam quite a lot... out of about 100 trades per week now I receive about 1000 trade offers from 2 bots in last 3-4 days... sometimes 8-10 similar or exact same offers from one bot at one time... all rejected/cancelled/waited up because they didn't respect STM rules :)
Edit: to sum up:
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I run a 1:1 Trade BOT and I'm ok with AutoSTM users.
ASF will accept only 1:1 trade offers and I don't see any problem in handling bulk trades.
As I stated in my BOT's profile:
AutoSTM users: Feel free to trade with me. I'm glad to help you swap your duplicates.
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This question is more aimed at those who run Archi's Steam Farm and have it enabled to trade it freely, essentially turning their account (or one of their alts) into a trading bot.
Recently, I am receiving a ton of trade requests on my alt account. I mean, a drastic increase; whereas normally I used to get 30-40 trade requests from SteamTradeMatcher a month, I got 43 just this day alone, and about 40 of them have one or more of the same signs:
"Trade sent using AutoSTM.Contact me on TELEGRAM for more details @<handle>"
Searching a bit led me to a Steam level-up service (the site above), which is, as anyone already expects after reading this far, is Russian, and sells card sets for the real currency of the Federation, CS:GO items. That AutoSTM is also a bot originating a Russian forum, sold for 4000-6000 RUB, depending on how many core accounts the users want to link to the bot.
Now, my suspicion is that they are running large card-farming botnets, concentrate the cards on a few accounts, and bombard STM users with requests to create badge sets, then sell them to anyone using the level-up bots. After all, why else would they pay 70-100 USD for that trading bot if not for ultra-large scale farming operations?
Considering I keep that account for human users to just make them easier to complete some cheap badges of junk (and sometimes half-decent) bundle games, I think I am going to start blocking these bots, because fuck their profits. (Even if, technically, they are using my bot as it is intended.)
So, anyone experiencing the same? By the size of this operation, I would be very surprised if not, but who knows?
Also, a vote, because why not. And in the General forum, because it is still technically Steam. :3
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