Wondering. Was browsing to see if I could snag a deal on Deep rock galactic and came across a couple of users on ST with a huge list of games they had and were only willing to trade for other games. So why are they collecting keys essentially if they aren't going to sell or activate them?

edit: note I understand what it means to just horde games on steam. I have over 1000 games.

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They not only trade them for games... they ll only trade them for profit. you offer one game they are even looking for, but they won't agree on a fair value 1 for 1 trade. you must offer more... like twice the value (be it current steam price or every game involved historical lowest prices). That's why trading is the worst occupation you could chose. And it's the reason why steamgifts works so well. People will rather just toss it away in a giveaway than going through the hell that is trading.

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This is true. I recently started using steamtrades barter, and in some offers, I've offered both 5 and 6 (some even 8 because I really wanted it) humble choice games on the other traders wishlist, for just one humble monthly/choice, and they're still denying the trade. Most 2 or even 3 to one trades are being rejected, so I consider it lucky when I get a 1 to1 trade on there.

*EDIT: changed steamtrades to barter

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using steam trades to trade is stupid using barter is better and easier i find

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yes not to mention it is easier to keep lists updated - remember where games come from (which bundles) and see what actual offers you have got for your games - many a time i have accepted an offer on steamtrades either for them to no show or just to say they received a better offer - where as on Barter an agreed trade is more of a confirmed trade

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Sorry, that's what I meant. I use barter, not Steamtrades.

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People value their games differently. What can factor in is the availability of a title (if currently in a bundle, it is often seen as having a lesser value because it's easy to get by buying said bundle), supply / demand, number of times it's appeared in bundles, their value on the grey market, the desire to play a game, etc.

Reading your comment, I'd say your offers were rejected because either
1) the person you sent a trade to didn't want to play the games you were offering that much
2) you've sent a trade offer to resellers (I've noticed that resellers will agree on a trade only if what you offer them has at least 2x the value of what you want from them... How do you spot a reseller easily? They have the same games in both their trade list and their wishlist and are generally after the most sought-after games)

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3) the game you wanted was quite rare and sought-after, not many people had it in their tradables and you were offering games that were widely available. That probably was a matter of supply and demand.

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some people I think are like this but if you are trading games as occupation how do you make money? I did a few trades b4 not recent (not within the past 1.5 years) and it was ok I bought a bundled game and traded for a steam gift for another. Not sure how it is now but I see a lot of people with tons of games who only want games in return. How do they make money if they just keep trading games?

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Well... they don't make money? After all, they are not even trying to.
I think that like 95% of the traders don't do it as their "occupation", but rather as a hobby or just a thing to do in their free time.

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+1

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when or where does it say they are doing this as a job or even trying to make money

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the first reply mentioned it as an occupation. I didnt think so either

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one - asking for money for them is not very easy to do or get

two - when bundles come out maybe people either have some of the games already or have no interest in them and therefore want to trade for other games they would more likely play

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i believe this game is still on gamepass

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Since the trade changes applied on steam a few years back, trading has been in a bad spot to make profits. Since now you have to rely in keys, not gifts. Gifts were probably the main reason to make profits with trading.

Other than this, actual profits in trading on steam comes from cosmetic stuff, like skins. Game trading probably has no profits or very small profits.

The only time i bothered to make profits with steam, was when they announced the card drop system, i applied to the beta early on, started collecting cards from the games i had and i started selling them. Back then cards were priced very high, like 30 cents to 1€ per piece, and there were people already invested in buying all the cards that early, i ended up making close to 80€ profit doing this before prices crashed down with the huge supply increase. I've made a few profits from small cosmetics in TF2 and some weapons.

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yeah I did the same. Collected cards got a bunch of games free thinkoverall I got close to $100 because I had so much games I had tons of cards.

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Not necessarily. There is a high number of game resellers who sell them on grey market sites for a profit. Most of them tho tend to prey on new traders and make a huge profit off them trading their worthless games for the new traders' expensive games.

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I wasn't involving the possibility of grey market reselling. But i guess that makes sense. Steam gifts do hold more value than keys though, specially discontinued gifts. Alot of people were hoarding those and selling high.

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I don't trade much, but got almost 500 keys in a list on ST. I mostly go for games in return, even though it is difficult to find stuff I want, because there is no figuring out prices, no regional transfer fees, no listing items on market, just decide if I want an offered game, and how cheap has it been compared to what they want.

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After few years of buying bundles I had 100+ duplicate keys. I only recently discovered barter and traded about 100 keys already. I just trade to get rid of keys and have something for it.

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