Currently all they are doing to 'help' trading is horrible.

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i like valve
and every euro a russian kid makes with reselling a game is a euro losing for valve
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russian kids should be happy to get games cheaper, but no they wanna have free money as a bonus too - valve sells games and they dont care for your living

get a job

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Everyone is losing, even european who used to trade during sales, yes, russians are losing more than all, but your argument is invalid :C

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The cheaper games made everyone else happy too not just russians

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I don't think it made publishers/developers happy :/

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But this way we bought more games than we normally would from Steam

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and more publishers have to share your money and dont get payed good enough to make good games

see the big picture

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Well So far they have made trading better.

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Ah, I see. Care to tell me how?

Edit: Judging by your profiles (Steam and Steamtrades); you don't seem like a trader. I would suggest you stop supporting horrible ideas that you have nothing to do with.

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30 days gift lock should only happen on 1 year old or less accounts, first payment to steam or new credit card used

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Please do not reply to this thread if you have no idea what you are saying, some people are supporting Valve's actions yet have no reason to do so.

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To slow down abuse by payment chargebacks, what more reason do you want?

All in all you still can trade games but you just have to wait longer. Gifting are not affected so it's still a good method for everyone giving games to other people. They're still being nice to not prohibiting games trading at all.
Traders are just seems to hurt by this action because it will lower their profit, and people who exploiting regional prices.

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Valve only thought about themselves when doing this action. Now people who trade by gifting won't be able to get refunds if the gift gets revoked.

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You should have to take full risks and responsibility if you are going by trading anyway. You don't buy directly from their store, therefore you shouldn't get priority support.

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you're such a corporate shill.

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^This.

Even in the case of chargebacks, the money and items all ended up removed, or back in the hands of their rightful owners. This flimsy "reasoning" is at best a smokesceen, and at worst a giant "FUCK YOU" to any users whose brains are in anything approaching a functional state.

The ONLY reasons Valve made these changes were to reduce the cross-region trading of cheap games, and to comply with Humane Society backed legislation, limiting the number of hours a month chimpanzees can be legally employed (which obviously had serious ramifications for the Steam Support burden).

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Lol

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Bumping this as a reminder of what horrible things Valve has done for us.

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I'm not so much blindly supporting what steam's doing but I'm not having much sympathy for a group of people who see fit to abuse price glitches/other areas because what steam has isn't good enough, and often spouting transparent justifications, such as:

"EU's too much" Nothing stopping you from buying from the US area or some other moderate area.

While this whole thing might take Nuuvem out of the picture for most, I just shrug and deal with it as I understand that wasn't a normal thing in the first place. And between Steam/The publishers and the RU abusers, the former's reason for lying is justified (last thing they need is any more abusers)

As for the other places? Inferior selection and odds are they'll be resorting to these things far quicker, otherwise they'll go out of business as they're not as big as steam is.

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So now 2 things are gonna happen... Firstly the piracy of video games is gonna go at a rate of at least 40% more than the one whe have today... and a lot of ppl while use vpn or proxies to activate ru locked gifts. That's it gaben , you fucking richfag,keep your hl3 otherwise i'm gonna pirate it.

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My question is will I be able to gift my friends in the RU region this Christmas? I live in Eu...

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..no... and what's the point of gifting from eu to ru? is it a troll attempt? lol

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Do you know what a Christmas gift is?

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You could give them the money the game is worth in russia via paypal since now russia supports it.

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yes they can
only low price regions -> high price region is locked
high price region dont get region locks

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Yes, they can't send you any gifts, but you can send them the gifts.

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Gotta love how they locked my country even though we use the dollar on Steam (not our regional currency) and we've got the same prices as US (mostly the same, some are more expensive). Valve really thinks in what they're doing.

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and? Games are already cheap on Steam... if people pay full price for a game then hopefully you enjoy it. Otherwise wait for a sale. SO they destroyed people from scamming or trading digital items that they own (not us) That is the risk of digital items and something we have all agreed too (im sure its in the user agreement that we all okay at lease once )

Does it suck Probably, does it affect me? not much i trade sell and buy cards and stuff but was never big in trading keys (cant even recall if i ever had one). So good luck with this but know it wont help, but if history has shown us anything its that there will always be another way to make a buck. ;)

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All the social injustices across the world, in each and every backyard but nah, let's picket and protest this.

Wonder what catchy slogan you guys are going to be putting on your t-shirts. Hands up, don't ban? I can't trade? Don't region lock me, bro? Riots attempting to burn down digital stores? Don't tread on me? No bulls, no HL3, only Gaben?

Wir vollen raus, Wir sind ein Volk & Vierzig Jahre sind genug!!

Not trying to be facetious but some of the things people choose to get mad over but not others

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