Yeah, I have the "pleasure" of having to use Norton / Symantec anti-virus at work. The most telling experience I have with it, is that it managed to flag it's own updates to it's own executables as a virus. That created such a clusterfuck that it took half a day to unfuck it.
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Oh man, I feel bad laughing since you had to fix something like that, but holy crap is that amazingly funny.
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This is how you know an Anti-Virus is bad, when it flags itself thinking it's a virus.
I tried Norton, Bit Defender, and Zone Alarm, all 3 game me trouble.
AVG also help giving me hassle of flagging false files. Even with me marking it as safe, it still kept quarantine the file. It did the same in the other 3 also.
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That's why I got rid of AVG, but now I have Avast! Newest update installs a freaking chrome and firefox extension for buying things online, wtf.
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Norton is a virus, same goes for Mcafee, avast is alright and free...
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Bitdefender has been the worst experience so far for me, ahead of McAfee and Norton. I'm glad I only paid 2 cents for it in the promo because that's already more that it's worth.
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McAfee is completely fine if you do absolutely nothing it says.
I use it.
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All I ever had was issues, and it acts like a virus once you try to remove it, at least in the past it did, had to do multiple operations to remove it.
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I gave up on McAfee after the staggering number of false positive it gave me and the fact that they dumbed down the interface more and more with each version, removing essential features like a whitelist.
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At least I wasn't completely dense when I couldn't find the whitelist anymore (I really thought I was missing something obvious with all the terrible UI changes). By the time I finally uninstalled it, I was literally shutting every shield down just to play legally purchased games (without cheats, mods, etc), and then had to manually reactivate it all when I was done playing. It just kept flagging everything constantly, even if absolutely every other AV saw nothing wrong.
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At some point I figured the AV had become useless since I kept disabling it in order to run various programs I knew were safe. I figured the one time I would have run some infected piece of software I would probably have disabled it once again.
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McAfee used to quarantine my game executables. As in, ones that came down through Steam and were definitely clean. I got pissed and went to Avast, since disabling my antivirus every time I wanted to do anything seemed, you know, against the whole point of an AV? lol
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Open up Norton, click on advanced, under computer protection click on quarantine, this should open a new window with stuff norton put in quarantine, find steam, click on it, click on restore, when prompted if norton should skip it next time, say yes.
That should anwser your question.
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people hating on norton, so sad.. they think avast of AVG free have the same amount of databases. it's a very good piece of software. there's a recover button in the quarantine that can place your files back.
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norton is shit because its too sensitive, often make problems you wouldnt have without it and slows down your computer awfully.
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it doesn't slow down your computer at all.. the old norton did that, the one from 8 years ago. right now it automatically goes in a silent mode when you play any game and it doesn't do background stuff. in fact, according to the software that i use to monitor all my pc's running software and it's usages, norton takes less than 0,5% of my cpu without power saving and 0.1% with powersaving mode on. also i bought a 5 pack with 4 other people, only costs 12 euro's a year then. i say cheap.
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So it does everything my Avast does including silent mode for years now now but for money instead of free, wow what a deal!
Sign me up, not.
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Yeah....sorry but I actually have used both Norton and Mcafee, both slowed down my system and from what I can tell of years of using Avast now it actually catches more. Biased article.
Here - Norton gets 16th place, eats ram.
Image I had saved for when people say what you say from about 2 years ago
Even if it improved in the last year or two there is no reason to be paying when free alternatives work just as well, do what you want though, just don't say shit with no backing, btw most antiviruses have basically the same exact database, some just detect faster or better is all. So yeah saying crap like "free have the same amount of databases." is just ignorant.
Norton also has an issue with false positives, thus OP's Steam was deleted, I consider that an inconvenience, I don't pay for inconvenience. I would be more forgiving if Norton was free but it isn't.
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Experienced same thing on Norton 360, 3 years ago. My cousin's laptop was a garbage until i uninstalled Norton 360 and downloaded Avast! Free and Comodo Firewall combination.
It was always doing background scans and there was some kind of sleek but funny geographical virus map.
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Yeah that also, the background scans were a pain...
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as i said before background scans don't even happen anymore and there's just an option (been there for years) to disable them. also, your link says that norton is tied 5th and it gives impact on computer performance 5 out of 5 stars.. just like computer protection. also it doesn't even use that much ram, in silent mode the lcd screen on my keyboard doesn't even display norton on there, and it displays only usages over 5%. also the price they tell you here is bullshit, a single license where i live costs 10 euros a year. don't link stuff you don't even read!
EDIT: oh and avast is even lower on that list!
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I do read, you don't.
"Avast is one of the few providers that provides a solid free antivirus version of their software. That is called avast! Free Antivirus 5.0." - From Article
"Norton is one of the bigger names in antivirus software; however, it is generally not the number one choice among information technologists due to its heavy RAM use. Norton is expensive, but it has excellent customer support, which can be very valuable to many users. The Mac version costs $39.99 for once computer for a year." - From article
Should probably click that image again, smaller is BETTER, not the other way around. From my experience and obviously many other peoples its all very true. Hell it labeled Steam a virus(Its a false positive monster, as seen by other responses in this thread) lmao.....think what you want, use it if you like, whatever.
Free > 10 Euros. Here it isn't that cheap BTW. It's a waste of money to me and many other people.
Main point: Why pay when free alternatives are just as good or sometimes better? Do what you will, don't act all superior though, Norton is hated for a reason.
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i didn't even talk about the picture, this picture is no evidence at all, you could've made that.. u said norton was 16th on the link, but look again. it's 5th and avast is 8th. norton has less impact on pc performance and has better pc protection. which are the 2 things we're argueing about. and if you're too cheap to pay 10 euro's a year for better customer support, cloud save backups and a better performance that's just sad..
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You: "norton has less impact on pc performance"
The Article: "Norton is one of the bigger names in antivirus software; however, it is generally not the number one choice among information technologists due to its heavy RAM use. Norton is expensive, but it has excellent customer support, which can be very valuable to many users. The Mac version costs $39.99 for once computer for a year." - From article
Avast uses much much less ram and cpu actually, you need to learn how to read(Like the part where I said it cost more then 10 euros here) and not ignore information. Again most virus programs use VERY similar databases, get your shit correct.
"u said norton was 16th on the link"
My mistake, doesn't negate everything else said. Look through this thread, many of us used Norton in the past, most of us hated it, wonder why? Because its a performance eater, gives a lot of false positives(FFS it thinks steam is a virus...), and is downright ridiculous to use when free alternatives IMO work better(I am not the only one that thinks this, even some of my friends in IT think so but I bet I am making that up also...Rolls eyes).
Also: "also i bought a 5 pack with 4 other people, only costs 12 euro's a year then. i say cheap." Thought you said 10 euros? Now its 12 if you do the work to team up with 4 other idiots, seems like to much effort, what are you to cheap ;-).
"better customer support"
Oh gee something I would never use, kinda like paying for warranties on a remote in bestbuy...
"you could've made that"
-_-
ffs PC Pitstop is a real site, do I need to go and track down the article from a couple years ago, look it up yourself if you feel inclined? Who the hell would even do that? You are obviously an idiot, yeah I spent time photoshopping just for you because you are a unique special little snowflake right?
Done talking to you, enjoy being ripped off like an idiot. Go argue with 99% of the other people in here that say Norton is terrible based on experiences if you wanna talk about how great it is lmao...
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it was 12 euros per person for the year and we got 50% off for the next year, but the year i bought it alone it was 10 euro for a single license ;) also it didn't think steam was a virus, i'm guessing you don't even know how virusses work. they work their way in crucial parts of software and sit there. norton probably saw it and deleted it, removing an important part of steam. but it deleted the virus. And even if that's not the case, the file was in beta, norton has a database that scans possibly suspicious files and sees if any other people that use norton, have it. you can see how many people have used the file and if they render it safe or not. it was a new file so norton didn't know it yet.
people hate norton for the same reason people hate origin. origin is a fine piece of software, great player support and refunds are easy to get. but people hate it BECAUSE other people hate it. most people don't even know what norton does, that it has a silent mode that stops it from being a heavy user (and even that isn't true anymore, hasn't been true for the last couple of years) or that it damn sure had a reason to delete steam.
And again, your little article shows that it has 5 out of 5 stars on pc performance impact so yeah, it might be RAM heavy (even though it uses less than 5%) but it still has less impact on pc performance than avast!
You can say whatever you want but you know i'm right, or at least you have no right to think otherwise and i know too after reading the last few paragraphes of your last reply. i've used norton for years, i know better than most people in here that it does work a lot better than the internet tells you it does, or at least the crying trolls on it. It doesn't have a big impact on pc performance, it's very well optimized and it sure as hell only delete files from steam if they're actually infected. it's pretty easy, i used to make little virusses with note pad like 5 years ago and you could give it a destination path, for example the steam folder. it didn't even have to be there in the first place, it moved itself. and that's just with notepad ;)
Anyway I did another test and the results are:
Minimum CPU usage: < 0,1%
Maximum CPU usage: 2,3%
Minimum RAM usage: 1,1%
Maximum RAM usage: 4,1%
Minimum GPU usage: < 0,1%
Maximum GPU usage: < 0,1%
Overall usage: Very low.
so yeah, VERY heavy on pc performance. -.-
The article YOU sent proves me right, I come with facts, you start with the harsh language. Shows how mature you are.
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Your post is full of assumptions, done debating with you, I do know what a virus is, Norton did detect it as a virus most likely, going off the fact it is very very heavy on the false positives, the article I linked says its performance heavy(In that it eats ram).
No point in arguing with you, many of us here have used Norton in the past as it was set up on many pre-built PCs in general, many of us here hate it, use it if you like it, just don;t say stupid shit like "this picture is no evidence at all, you could've made that" and "You can say whatever you want but you know i'm right" or "it sure as hell only delete files from steam if they're actually infected." because thats a shit assumption.
I'll say it again, NORTON IS A FLASE NEGATIVE MAGNET and uses way more computing power then the alternatives, google it for Christs sake...
"To add onto this, it never removes registry entries, and has a tendency to not touch anything in the C:WINDOWS directory that is infected. It just kind of leaves it there, even after saying it was quarantined/removed.
This, as you can imagine, is rather problematic with a good, giant chunk of malware out there." - My favorite part from that thread.
Almost everyone here and everyone in the technology field knows Norton is a damn joke.
Maybe they fixed the performance part a bit(I doubt it, most people still say its a hog) but the false negative thing has always been that way with Norton...but no we all all wrong and I am to believe you over the majority even if my experiences with Norton granted a couple years back was everything but a good experience.
"The article YOU sent proves me right,"
The one that says that Norton is ram heavy? HAHAHAHAHAHA, no no wait you say it uses little ram, let me believe you over an actual tech site....not.
"you start with the harsh language. Shows how mature you are."
Go fuck yourself if you can't handle the harsh language, no ones telling you to read my posts, make sure to only go to PG rated movies also....
Bye bye.... for real this time(Set you to ignore cant see ANY more post by your retarded ass, so don't bother replying), you can try explaining to others here why they are wrong now, all yours, lets see how well that goes, you know telling people they are wrong after having bad experiences with software and how you are right right right lmao...
Grow up, complaining about some curse words...lol.
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it's funny that you have never even used norton before and still think you can argue with me, while i can literally check if all the things you're saying are true, and they're not :) you just read things that people say without any evidence and post it here XD well have a nice life here on steamgifts, take care and don't forget to smile every once in a while. oh and i almost forgot, the internet is full of liars ;)
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There are a lot of opinions posted in response. I won't go over every one of them. There is a simple and relatively cheap way to protect yourself from most viruses and malware.
1) Use MSE or Avast! for your anti-virus. Pick one. You can upgrade Avast! if you wish. Never use more than one AV program at the same time.
2) Install and use Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (go ahead and pay for the full version) in conjunction with your chosen AV program.
3) Make sure your web browser is protected by installing appropriate plug-ins. Something like BrowserProtect works fine.
NOTE: If you're using "bad sites" (e.g. piracy or porn sites), you will have to work at keeping your computer "clean." Such sites are the cesspool of the internet and a source of much malware.
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2014
using norton
using mcafee
Uninstall those two if you have them. Completely. Make sure to delete the folder in program files as well if it's still there.
Get avast and malwarebytes and never look back.
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