Also, I lied because the Youtube comments aren't actually present here. Sorry. :'( Maybe it'll be in my next edition. PIZZA VS PIE
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I don't read Youtube comments. It's worse than Reddit, it's worse than 4chan, it's worse that 9gag. It's... Just horrible.
Disclaimer: I don't visit 4chan or 9gag so I might be wrong about these two. :P
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I think Youtube might actually be worse than... Tumblr. Gasp! Although, Youtube has Tumblr spies, me thinks.
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I think writing and story are not inherently synonymous. For example, someone can write dialogue, which is completely meaningless to the plot/story/universe. You can write the greatest exchange of dialogue between two characters, but if it isn't relevant to the plot, it's not the story. For example, in Watchdogs, hacking people's phones and listening to their conversations is creepy. I mean, writing. But it's not story, since you don't get involved. You're just a bystander; it could be a story, but it's not the story. Can it be well written? Yes, but it wouldn't mean that the story of the game is well written.
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I suppose that arguable but I just wanted to make it clear that story is made up of writing. The quality of the story = the quality of the writing of said story.
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Yeah, I'm just bad at wording.
EDIT: No, I just got it plain wrong. Oops.
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Well, actually, not necessarily. There is the blind idiot potential; even particularly bad writing can bring about a decent story. It's uncommon, but it can happen. Of course, many of these tend to be because of blind idiot translations, etc. where the writing is cringe worthy. Likewise, sufficient character development can make up for the weakness of the story writing- if you're attached to characters, even if the story is awful, it can mean something to a player.
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These "stories" are most likely fake. You don't get arrested for making fun of something on the internet. Freedom of speech. :P
Of course, if he wasn't just joking around and for example, "kidding" about threatening people's lives or illegal activities, it's an entirely different matter.
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Story and writing don't always go hand in hand in video games
More importantly, who talked shit about Last Of Us? ill kill em with my power
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Story and writing are clearly not synonymous because a story doesn't have to come in written form. We can tell stories (and people did before writing was common knowledge or even before it was invented), and we can experience stories presented in a visual way via a movie or game (often with an aural component, but it's not strictly necessary). We can "read" a story which is mainly made of pictures depicting what happens, with just dialogue and a bit of narration in written form. There are many way to tell a story.
Edit: Monukai has a point. In the context of a movie or non-text game, "story" would typically refer to the plot, while "writing" would likely refer to words said.
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Good point. I suppose they're aren't exactly synonymous but I guess that's just what I put at first glance. A better way of saying it is that they're both easily relatable. I'm just being close-minded because I'm tired and bla bla bla. I think most of it was because of the context of the conversation which was about a video game, one with both aural and visual.
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well, more context would have been helpful (i.e. the comment you saw them use writing) but I'm guessing when 'writing' was used it was to refer to the quality of the story and dialogue, i.e. "the writing was bad for this game" could mean that both the story and the dialogue weren't good.
that being said, in a technical sense I would say no they are not, a 'writing' is not necessarily a story, but a [written] story is always a writing.
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That makes sense, actually. The topic at hand was specifically about the story but it was stated at some point that the 'writing' was terrible and so was the 'story' which is where it got confusing and turned into a battle of insults. So, there you go. General context.
Also, didn't want to have a public display and have the person see this and think 'Oh boy...' although I think it would be obvious of the situation, these discussions probably happen a lot.
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Oh yes, I'm back with another one. My previous one was one the usage of 'was' or 'were' and I still thank you all for that. IIRC it depends on how the sentence is e.g. 'if' sentences use 'were'. I digress. This one is about whether not story and writing are synonymous - related, the same, etc. - and it was obviously in a comment thread concerning the story of The Last Of Us which apparently got perfect scores and lots of people apparently take this as encouragement to shit on it.. So, yeah. Go crazy! I, personally, didn't think the story was the best I've ever seen but in this world where humans are absolute assholes on the internet, I'm pretty convinced that this same discussion could have been about any game. People aren't allowed to have opinions!
So, my question that I'm presenting is this : Is story made up of writing aka synonymous with writing or is story and writing separate? It may seem very stupid and pointless but there's the whole variety-in-how-people-use-words issue. I think it's pretty clear that 'story' is made up of 'writing' but I could have misunderstood.
Obligatory giveaway(level 1 or higher requirement) because I'm pretty sure it was a troll as we started to talk about having sex with money, bar mitzvas and Jewish people and then it ended with a lenny face. Heck, the person I was arguing about was pretty determined to prove me wrong that the story wasn't a pile of steaming crap and that the whole focus was a circlejerk around Ellie... Now that I think about it, it was probably a troll.
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