I know you all hate them, because they snap away all the good games but never give something to the Community. I mean Leechers, which e.g. 40 Giveaways but only gave away only 1 game worth almost nothing.

In my opinion there should be a Rule, that forces such leechers to do giveaways, even if it's a 1$ game, when they won 10 times more games then they gave away.

I'm doing more and more Giveaways for higher Levels (atm 2+) and i always see there people gave aways 5-10 games but won at least as much as i gave away (over 80). i feel scammed because of that, not because i just won about 30 games, i'm okay with that, because i want to give more than i win.

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Is that a good idea for a new rule?

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Yes, because they should give something too
No, because that destroys the community
Maybe, when you explain more

Just create giveaways with "better" CV level. Problem solved. :) Or if someone has good level and still is in leecher ratio and u don't want give him another games, use blacklist...
(i don't like leechers too, but if you set this "anti leech" rule as legit site rule, you can expect much crying about it.

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well when i'm at ~4.7 i'll do lvl 3+ but i guess there are always leechers ._. i had a leecher in a group GA (lvl 1+) and he won his 40th game and only gave away Gearcrack arena, which was worth 1$...

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Sure i understand... Use blacklist or lvl 5 or so. Max what can u do.

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i'm trying to get lvl 5 atm, and i saw even some lvl 2 people with 3 times more wins, but those are okay, because they spent at least a bit

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  • you can make level 10 giveaways at level ZERO.
  • high level members typically have WAY more gifts given than won.
  • high level members typically mark gifts received FAST.
  • high level member are STARVING for higher level GA's, and often whitelist people who consistently give away higher level GA's
  • you can make high level public GA's up to level 9 that only last 1 hour with ~5-10 entries. You still get your points credit! Give level 10's 24 hours. Much fewer of those.

My daughter (and I) found out by accident, that by making almost all of our public GA's with a level 6-10 level requirement, we ended up on quite a few private whitelists and group invites for exclusive giveaways....high quality, non-bundled games with 10-50 entries. Our winnings increased *exponentially.

** You stand to reap a mighty side benefit when you 1). Focus on the giving and let karma work for you, 2). Make GA's much higher than your level, 3). Stay consistent.

As someone mentioned before I did, people can achieve level 6 exclusively with bundled GA's, but achieving level 7-10 will dig much deeper into your pocket.**

All this was what we stumbled on while giving away games. We weren't doing it for the exclusive "secret society groups," or to get on people's whitelists, but they did happen for us and now the wins roll in. I have to admit it is nice to win, but we treat that as a happy bonus. My daughter won 12 games in the last 7 days. All from whitelists and private groups she was invited to for her efforts to give to level 6-10.

Honestly, I don't understand why greedy people aren't making more exclusive high level GA's.

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i do public GAs for 50h atm, i maybe lower that time by going higher on the lvl minimum

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Some will leech on purpose, but there are also who can't afford it.

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Nice spookification on your avatar:)

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no we donΒ΄t need more rules....we indeed need some rules with less room for interpretation, but this is a different story.
What you demand is more or less more options for setting up giveaways. Like not only a level, also a minimum ratio. A minimum number of giveaways created and so on. But as a general rule....seriously more rules that nobody cares about.....

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yea, some of the rules are a bit leaking on here

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u forgot why SG was created ?

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yea i know, for people that don't have the money to buy the games so they are trying to win them, but in the past i feel like 60% of the lvl 1 members are still leechers...

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my month payment is less than 150 usd, wonder how many games i can bye?

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well i got less, and i buy many bundles, so i got at least a few games to trade / give away, and i got way too many games to trade away

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Are you saying you've got a job that pays less than 150$ a month, in Germany a country where wages are among highest in the world? I find that hard to believe.

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did i ever said i got a job?

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You can manage to giveaway without paying anything, like me and many other people do.

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I have not heard cg state why he/she/it created the site, to be honest. The reason of simply giving gifts does define to whom and why.

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It?

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You feel scammed because of wha???

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because of the leechers, they win enough on this page and should give away a bit too...

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You feel scammed for the giveaways you didnt even enter?

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no, i feel scammed because of the leechers, i checked the last leecher who won a lvl 1+ group GA and he won 10 of the games i entered in the past 3 months

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So you think you are more entitled to win because you have a better ratio ?

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It is giveaways.. never hope to get something back...
Although I know how u feel

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no, i'm okay with my win ration (0.5% haha) i got almost 500 games on steam and i most of the games i add i buy from bundles and pretty rarely which are won

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u still have better winning ration than mine which is 0.0039% or less currently :c
I'm not a lucky one lol~

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did you just calculated wins / entered? because then you have to multiplicate *100 so your chance is 0.39%

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I forgot to multiply it with *100

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and that's why i got an A+ in math haha, i sometimes saw mistakes when the teacher made one hahahaha

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Do you also feel scammed when donating to charities or giving to the homeless?

This rule would have a huge effect on the website since it uses ads for revenue.

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i have no problem with charities

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damn, i usually say that but i joke about it. are you serious...

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bye a present for your friend for a cristmass and send him bill

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that's what my grandma does every time

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i m already love your grandma

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and you said "buy" wrong haha, well my grandgrandma does the same haha, but she gifts me amazon cards haha

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i learn eng at school, it was long long time ago

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*buy (not bye) :)

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There are group and private giveaways for it. Not to mention whitelisted ones.

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well i had that idea, BECAUSE of a group GA, which was lvl 1+ and the guy who won won 39 and only gave away 1$, just to be in the lvl 1 group

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i did already, but he still gets the key

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You can make your own group to gift people of your selection. There are plenty ways to eliminate people from joining your giveaways so i don't know if you are lazy or something else.

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i got my own group and it got over 2.5k members, and because my group was inactive, i did 3 GAs only for my group

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They would leave the site, no doubt about that. Especially if they are being forced to contribute.
Also less people, less ad revenue

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Discussed and concluded before. Just blacklist, level up your GAs and move on...

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i blacklist everyone who got 5 times more wins then gives, and for lvl 1 members it's still a high amount which got that, for lvl 2 there are still some with 3 times more wins, but this is okay

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I take this as you don't use Steamgifts Gold right now.It gives you extra chance to win giveaways, private message to the slaves mods and every month Zelghadis will write a dedicated poem for each subscriber. ( I think he can be the next Shakespeare)
JK

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How come I didn't get my personnal poem, I demand one;)

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I'd prefer for 'leechers' to overcome their 'leechiness' on their own free will, rather than to be forced to do it even if it means more 'leechers' :-P

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As long as we can't differentiate the people who can't buy or can't afford games from the ones with leecher mentality, it's a bad idea. And just to throw some dirt on myself as well: how's that worse if one gives 1 and wins his 20th game while owning only 30-40 than me winning another one? While I enter only for games I intend to play, at some cases they would end up in a better place by getting won by a leecher. I think as long as you can make filter the people you don't like to win (CV limit for users who don't give, invite only groups for ratio, activity or other special things) we're good. I don't think it's a good idea to make a fix rule about such a negligent thing. ( Jackass users and rule-breakers are more of a problem than "leechers" )

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You can:

  • Do Group-only giveaways.
  • Do Whitelist-only giveaways.
  • Whitelist people who meet your criteria.
  • Keep blacklisting people who don't.
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i do blacklist people, but when they already entered, they still can win the game, even when they are blacklisted

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No. There should (and will never be) any sort of punishment for people who have chosen not to contribute.

This site gives users the ability to list giveaways to exclude those who have not contributed. The person who is giving away the game has choices to restrict users from entering the giveaway (level, groups, private, black/whitelist). If the person giving away a game is not happy with the winner, they should not have allowed that person to gain entry.

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well, even people with lvl2+ can be leechers, that's what i kinda hate, why did you spend that much money into it?

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I do not agree with the labelling of users as "leechers". This is a giveaway site, and the majority of people come here to attempt to win games.

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yea, that's true, well i'm giving more than i get, and i'm okay with it, everybody should feel like this haha

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You don't look like you are okay with it. :(

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If you were ok with it, this thread wouldn't exist. I do wonder how many BL you've managed to get yourself on with some of your posts in this thread...

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That reminds me how one of my steammates was frustrated when he sent some christmas gifts to his friends and got nothing but thanks in return.

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well i got a friend who i know in real life, and if i'm right, he never gave me a game, and i gifted him like 5 games, but i get all his cards etc. and everything he gets

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Totally agreed with your comment, it stop being a gift the moment you expect to get something in return and it become more like a trade...

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I believe the poll says the correct reply.

inb4 and no

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I know that feeling bro. I was and I am complaining here for a looong time about leeches ( :> ) but for different purpose - not activating previous wins...
If you want to give something on public - level 5/6+ have usually (!) less leeches. Unfortunatelly... less =/= nobody...
If you want to contribute in any way - I suggest groups with ratio requirement and whitelist.

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well the groups i give awa games too are public and in total there are about 60k users (orignal groups) and even my group got 2k members but i feel like giving away games that are over my CV is kinda weird, but soon i will do lvl 3+

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Haha, I've never made GAs above my level too :P

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You should look into a more exclusive group, a lot of those have ratio, which means less people who don't give and win tons of games:)

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i'm in a pretty exlcusive german giveaway group (average entries ~ 30) but i'm happier when i got way more gives than wins haha

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Same here, but I was talking about some group who will only accept you if you are level 4 or 5, and that would solve the very problem you are now facing because as a rule at that level there are less people who have won tons of game and given next to nothing comparatively.

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i know, i'm trying to get into a group, where you need a CV of 5.75, it's still a long way because i'm only at 4.6

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Good luck:)

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i try my best, doing more GAs by now, cause i got over 100 games left for trading etc. hahha

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Yeah I know what you mean, I started a trading post and finally just ended up putting most of the game as GA:)

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well in my opinon a bad ration for leechers is 5 times more wins or higher... i mean 1 sent and 40 wins???

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This site is not a gamble site, but a giveaway site. That rule would be horrible. I prefer to giveaway a game to someone who has little possibilities to buy the said game and plans to play it, than to someone who has a lot of games out of which he only played 10. And again, we should point our negative energy towards people who break the rules, not towards people who don't create giveaways!

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yea i know, breaking the rules is worser than that

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well. When i open steamgifts.com on chrome, top there , on the page name, it says " Free Steam Games and Steam Keys"
Also, there is people like me, for example, who giveaway some games when the price is right, and when we can. The games we get on steam are region locked, and in bundles the prices aren't 'that good ' compared if we get one by one in promotion on steam. I am talking about Brazil, btw. We get in the mix, if you think about. For some people,steamgifts is the only way to get games,if not, people go for piracy. So, is really hard to apply your ' new rule' :S (1 US$ is 4 RS$, its really a LOT )

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yea, sometimes the bundle prices are in some regions a bit higher, and that's why stream made region locks, because e.g. in russia games are cheeper than here in germany or in the US (sometimes 50% cheaper)

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Not sure this belongs in the Off-Topic section. Also, like everyone else said, CV levels are enough to keep out leechers if you feel so inclined.

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like i said earlier too, i do at lvl 2+ GAs when public and even there are some little leechers (2-3 times more wins)

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Oh well, then I guess I am one.

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yea, you won't get blacklisted form me, you got exaclty 3 times more wins then gives

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Yep. I should work on that ratio.

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i'm okay with it :P

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That's cool, thanks! But I should still do it. I think I'll get started right now.

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Try making giveaways for level 4's then.

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soon

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I think this can do more harm than good. Some leechers may decide that if their main account became useless for them, it's OK to make several alt accounts and farm games even faster.

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well the rule sounds good, but if it is like the old creating rule (only double your CV) for winning, it would be even better

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You do realize that every single one of us was "leech" at the beginning? Of course, some just were there for 5 min that takes to create first GA, some for a couple of weeks while they were figuring out things around here and some for longer because of some other circumstances you are not aware of. It's not up to us to decide when anyone feel comfortable (or even able) to contribute. If you want have strict control over who exactly can enter YOUR giveaways - steamgifts offer more then enough tools for that.

Edit: I meant more common term of a 'leech' as a person who haven't contributed anything.

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i won my first game after 1 month, and i creator a giveaway before i won it already

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Edited for clarification. Still stand by my post even if consider 'leech' as someone who won hundreds times more then gifted. Being generous should not be forced. Being lucky should not be punished. Don't like such people winning your games? You've been suggested plenty of possibilities to avoid that.

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i raise my level soon, haha

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I also gave something away before I won anything; it's not always the case. That said, I do think new believers should be treated with some level of charitable trust. However, I don't think anyone should be forced to give anything away. That's outside what I think the spirit of the site is about.

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Edited for clarification. Completely agree with 'no forcing".

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No. But maybe some system like this: If your ratio is worse than X, your chances of winning would be reduced by X% (max 50%).
PS: The ratio should be calculated with the Real CV.

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nah, lowering the chance of winning is not what i meant, i had as an idea, that you are not allowed to win GAs where you got a higher winning chance in general (lvl X+)

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