Some games get added to the bundled list, that's probably what happened for you.
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ok how do you explain I'm 5 bucks to level 5 assuming that page is correct
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sgtools has been totally bugged out [for me and the other users I asked to check] for most of the day now :X
Though in that particular case, it looks like a bundle trumping a base game on Steam's end.
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Yeah, I know, I try to look up some of my winner and it said that all of their wins where unnactivated. Then I checked mine and it said the same thing even thought all my wins are activated.
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44/47 unactivated on one user I checked, so SOME games are counting, oddly enough.
Just a very small minority :P
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I don't think it's sgtools that's bugged out. Steam has been acting wonky for the past 4-6 hours for a lot of people. It's been saying they're not logged in, and while they can purchase games normally, they can't access their activity feed, profile, etc.
I'm wondering if that has something to do with sgtools not reading activations properly.
I was able to activate two games on the steam client I bought from GMG, but the client said I wasn't logged in LOL.
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Odd, I haven't heard of anyone having Steam problems, on my end.. :/
Certainly none of the people complaining about SGTools problems :(
[And lets face it, Steam acts wonky pretty regularly, 'cause well, Valve..]
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When mine started acting up, I checked the forums and there were a decent number of posts about it -- mostly people getting kicked out of CSGO because of the client issues, but a bunch of others with the same problem as I was having -- Steam let me log in just fine, but then the client itself would tell me I wasn't logged in. Web login was unaffected it seems.
I just chalked it up to Valve's typically fubared Tuesday maintenance. :P
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Well, actually.. I wasn't able to find some people in community searches, that'd I'd been able to find before.. so I guess I did notice SOME Steam quirks.
Nothing about stability/etc, though-
But then again, if there's one thing Valve is good about [and it's certainly not customer service], it's making sure everyone gets their own clusterbomb of unique bugs :P
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so cool, I'm gonna go to cry in a corner to wait is fixed so i know how much $$$ i need to lvl up and buy sth
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you can calculate it by your self.
lvl 3 is 50$ and you will get lvl 4 by spending 100$
so the difference is 50$. you got 1% of it so you have to spend about 49.50 $ to reach lvl lvl 4...
but dont forget: bundled games will count only with 15 % of their value and new bundled games could get added to the list later but will still decrease your counter^^
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Sgtools is working as always, lately there has been some downsides on Steamgifts or steam itself that made it not work as intended and it's something I can't control.
If you find a bug in the tools, please report it on the official thread :)
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What happened to your win of Lost Civilization though?
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that's bugged... but doesn't make sense why i dropped the lvl
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Daedelic has the nasty habit of occasionally increasing the full price of their games by a ridiculous amount just so they can offer a 90% off "sale" without actually losing any money.
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I also have lost a level, possibly because SG does not think that 'Chivalry: Complete Pack' belongs to Steam anymore :(
Also, can't make some giveaways that I have planned for this month... Like - all of them. Shame, really, there was a lot of good packages :(
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It was bundled, yes, at july 16th. And was as much bundled last month when I have done Giveaway. So I shouldn't have suddenly lost a level. Thanks.
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Well, that really s***s. Wasting 30$ for 1C Strategy Collection, that was bundled, like, more than two years ago.
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Well, this is funny. I have three packages that I got for less than a dollar, and they are at the full 15$ price.
And those packages that I bought for full price worth almost nothing.
I hate my luck.
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That's why you shoudn't give game just for CV, that often happens that games get added after to the bundled list. There's only one person doing the list so... sometimes it gats added later.
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Yep it seems like Chivalry is now bundled and give only 5.25 real CV, that's probably why you went down 1 level, since you gave it twice...
So if you count the bug with Memoria, it come up to level 3.
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Sometimes Steam reports the price of a game as the price of a discounted pack that contains the game, as the price of the game individually would be more expensive during the sale.
That causes that type of error where a game costs more points to enter and gives more CV. And it's indeed a temporary error and both the points to enter and CV gained will go back to normal when the sale is over. Don't count on that to increase your level. Also, Memoria is bundled now, I suppose.
Clearly, that's the case here, and the game doesn't cost 160 dollars... Check the pictures below.
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i know that, but i meant i was level 4 before that bug with memoria
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I don't know... SGTools reports Memoria as giving full value, but it's not. It's already in the bundle list here. That means, even with the $160 price tag, it would drop you below $100 of CV, which means level 3.
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The Chivalry Complete Pack looks like it was retroactively bundled to June 16th, and you've given it away twice since then. You probably got full value for the packs until it was added to the bundle list.
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You're correct:
Chivalry: Complete Pack
Bundled effective since: Jun 16, 2015
Added to Bundle list on: Oct 21, 2015
That must be it.
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Here is explain why you lost a level.
http://www.steamgifts.com/bundle-games/search?q=Memoria
Bundled day is : Aug 27, 2015 which is wait before your giveaway of Memoria happen . I think sgtool update bundle checker ( or whatever to check if game on bundle or not) every 6 hours or so. Basically sgtool still think you got full CV value of "memoria" . However in steamgifts due to the bundle thingy, it only count that you got 15% value of "Memoria".
Basically suddenly you lost $135.99 ( 0.85*159.99) in CV vaule . That's why you drop 1 level. Your real CV is about $50.5
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hmm interesting they use the first 90% sale of the armageddon pack as bundle-date for memoria....which makes no sense, cause it´s not possible to give single copies from this armageddon pack. the correct date would be the the recent groupees bundle
edit: i guess memoria was 85% off....whats with the rub-curse in aug. was indeed more the 95% off us-base price.
so today we learn even 85% leads to bundled :-)
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Unfortunately it takes time to update all the bundle dates and here's the kicker.. after October 26 the price of Memoria will be corrected to 20p and you will drop down another level to level 2
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if it's any consolation I lost almost 200$ of real CV with these retroactive measures, but that's the way this site works...
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so how can i know for future reference that the games has to be updated because I'm always checking before buy something here http://www.steamgifts.com/bundle-games and now for example i was thinking in buy payday 2 GOTY version to giveaway, is a good idea?
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If you see an 85% discount or more that game probably will be added to the bundle list sooner or later, because russians for example can get a better deal most of the times. Don't trust that list only, it is only meant to know which games are already bundled, but you can't know which ones will be added later retroactively.
For example, Shadow Warrior was added recently to bundle list but with this date: Nov 4, 2014
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so for this specific GOTY version what do you think? is worth the chance?
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a game has to reach 95% off in any region based on the US price. usually RU and SA are the lowest ones.
you can install enhanced steam to check prices.
example: payday 2 goty is $3.63 in RU which isn't enough to reach 95% off, so it's not bundled yet (will be when it goes down to ~$2.5).
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As long as you give a game away before it's ever in a bundle, you'll get full CV for it. I suggest using Enhanced Steam (an extension for Firefox and Chrome) -- it gives a lot of extra information about games, such as bundles it's been in and the lowest price (including RUS) the game's ever been.
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so the payday2 was in a bundle and one time free, but not the others dlc (all the goty version) i assume i should get the full cv right?
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Payday 2 (non GOTY) is dangerous to give. As you said, it was in a bundle and not in a fixed tier, it was "beat the average" so maybe it was cheaper than $3.63 if you take into account the rest of the games from that bundle. But the GOTY edition is safe at the moment.
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Use IsThereAnyDeal. They have a price and bundle history. If you see 90% on Steam or Nuuvem, or 95%+ anywhere else, that is the date you should expect to be added to the bundle list with.
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Oh and I forget one more thing as MrWubble Stein said. It's not that the system bugged. It's just the way the system calculate CV is somewhat not accurate due to all the sale .
In your case due to the package that contain "Memoria" currently on sale and cheaper than "Memoria" itself ( 15.99 vs 19.99). The system will pull out the "Memoria" Package to calculate the CV instead of the real "Memoria" game. After the package was pull out, it will calculate based one the full value prices ( aka full value bundle (if it's a case) more than 5 gifts giveaway ( if it's a case) ) then it give you your CV.
Because of that after the "Memoria" package discount over the system will pull out the "memoria" prices itself ( 19.99 one) you will get even more less CV
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Sgtools says that Chivalry: Complete Pack is worth (5.25$ Total).Hmmm .....ok?
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Do you mean this bundle 2 years ago? https://isthereanydeal.com/specials/#/search:%23%3A433;/scroll:%23gamelist priced @ 22€
Or did it got bundled again? Because the value drop by sgtools is new.
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it got bundled on 16th june 2015
http://www.steamgifts.com/bundle-games/search?q=Chivalry
and his ga was in septermber this year^^ so its fine
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I see now, it wasn't actually bundled on the 16th, it was just the highest discount (90%) https://isthereanydeal.com/#/page:game/price?plain=chivalrymedievalwarfare
It's just a little strange that they price drop happened now after all this time. My guess is that they missed the discount on 16th of June (Summer Sale).
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It was retroactively bundled on Oct 21 back to June 16th due to it being 90% off during the Steam sale. 90% off prices in the USA can mean 95% or more off in Russian prices, so it ends up on the bundled list.
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Im curios how much rub it was in june, cause the prices there seem to change ofen and the rub was also more worth vs dollar in june
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On June 16 the conversion rate was 1 USD = 53.9689 RUB
Since the sale was 90% off the price (599 RUB) was 59 RUB which was 0.91 USD or a discount of 97.5% off the 34.99 USD price
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yes, just realized, that even a 85% sale in aug. causes a bundled -status for e.g. memoria
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The odd thing is that that appears to be a RU+CIS region locked retail key, so one would think anyone getting the RU price would have a region locked copy. And if that is the case why the ROW copy would be considered bundled?
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Yes it´s really strange. On the other hand, the only use for a level is to restrict giveaways....but that's meanwhile a bit pointless. You can exclude level 1 or 2, but if the intention is to give to "givers" it does not work anyway. The guy that does only region-restricted giveaways for his small group gets the same level like someone that does only public ones.
Anyway i still want the group+hidden option....i want it so much.
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one more of the series "anything can be bundled any time and be marked with any date retroactively" rule.
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sure....and with more regions, more price-differences even more....I guess soon even 80% sale means = bundle
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well... since there's no "region bundle" which could solve almost actual problems, who buys row keys will be punished twice...
even the devs will be punished too (once bundled, there's no way back).
anyway, this system incentivates more region giveaway than row, since row keys are not as cheap as region locked.
every time I think about this actual cv system, it came with something new that is negative.
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I wonder what will happen if every single game got bundled XD
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SteamGifts will turn into region locked area... where only region prices will be worthy.
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Well it's not really can happen since normally games got release wait faster than game into bundled. I mean more games got release compare to the number of game got into bundle.
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75% discounts are not unusual, many games get this discount at least twice a year ....so it´s just a matter of time ...and exchange-rates/pricing that even a 75% discount could force a "bundled"-status.
Of course that does not mean, every game....but maybe in the future a list of non-bundled games would be the easier solution :P
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Sgtools caches bundle list every 6 hours to avoid hammering steamgifts, that's why you still see memoria as not-bundled.
Apart from that, Steam is reporting a bad price on Memoria, that's something typical of the heavily bugged Steam API and we can't do anything to solve it.
TL/DR: In some hours sgtools will show the right value for you, and that value will be lower once Steam corrects Memoria's price
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WTF i was level 4 and suddenly I'm 3, is bugged only for me?
aparently this is also bugged http://www.sgtools.info/sent/Crazyfaith 100p memoria
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