Hey there, so recently I got tired many anime are 12 episodes and don't even scratch the surface of the story..
I've always been an anime guy and, in case I want to keep knowing more about the story, I would read the manga.. However I always knew LN/WN exist and they are mostly text
My question is, are LN/WN any different to manga? Other than one having more text and less images and the later being more images and less text? You know how manga have (usually) many differences to the anime? I want to know if manga has differences to the LN or just how they are presented.. Like, is the same story, same content?

I say it because I want to read either the manga/LN for Re:Zero, Ryuuou no Oshigoto, Black Bullet, etc.. I would normally read manga but since they all started as LN/WN, there are more chapters in that format

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Sort of depends.

LN's usually have more content since the writers are only limited by their imagination more than a budget. That means LN's usually don't have rushed plotlines compared to anime, as seen in some of the adaptations that the fans thought were terrible.

But with that advantage, you're also giving up voice acting, music, and moving visuals.

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But I meant LNs vs manga

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Wow, I'm retarded. I found mangas to be more to the point and filters out the necessary world building. ex. overlord, re:monster, gate - thus the jdsf stood here

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You should probably also know that in a lot of cases the manga adaptations of LNs are not done by the original authors, small changes are to be expected to fit the medium just like with changes to anime adaptations (some things are just better done in different ways when adapted to a different medium). Often manga adaptations of LNs don't even end up reaching far in the story, sometimes getting only to where the anime has reached or a little further and then slowing down a lot that really depends and is different for every series. There is also often a lot of spin-off manga appearing for some series so they have completely different stories.

I personally would prefer going for the original source if I want to continue the story of an anime that has ended without finishing the story.

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Except Bleach and Prison School, do yourselves a favor and stick with the unfinished anime. Same with George R.R. Martin ASOIAF novels, odds are they wont be finished.

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I would say Bleach is kind of different from the regular unfinished anime because it's actually "finished" in terms of story unlike most of the adaptations that start, get to some story point and never get seasons to finish the actual stories. A lot of those cases are really just used as promotional material for the original source which Bleach clearly isn't.

I don't know about Prison School since I've only watched the anime but for Bleach just the first 64 episodes are enough. Sure there were a few cool characters introduced later but really it was repeating the same story over and over again. (Get powers, lose powers, someone gets kidnapped, go save them but to do that you need to get powers again, save them, lose powers.. repeat)

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To be more specific I would have to spoil the manga so I will refrain.

(Get powers, lose powers, someone gets kidnapped, go save them but to do that you need to get powers again, save them, lose powers.. repeat)

Isn't that the formula of every Shonen? I still like them since it is the little variations and personality that makes them interesting. Like Boku no Hero, they repeated the formula but they did it in a good way, with talent.

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Sure that is the formula of every shonen but it was just as if Bleach wasn't trying to be anything other than a generic shonen, it was average all around and didn't have anything specific that stood out to make it better than the rest, but to be fair when it comes to shonen my taste is a little stricter than for other genres so that might be just for me.

Edit: Maybe I think that way because Bleach didn't really have an "end goal". Every arc had it's own end goal which just ended being connected to something that happened in the past but you could just end it at the end of any arc and call it a finished story with no problems, unlike say Naruto, One Piece, Hero Aca where you have a goal (become the hokage, become the pirate king, become a hero) and the story arcs are things that drive the characters towards that.

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Ichigo's end goal was always to protect the ones he cares about. The problem with the anime is the amount of filler it has, it disconnected the bond between the arcs. In the manga that doesn't happen, the story is more connected and there is a sense of continuity.

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Yeah I've read the manga, I know how the stuff goes down but what I'm saying is Ichigo's goal is a weak for the type of anime it was. Don't get me wrong, I liked Bleach for what it was however as I said it just seems like you could end it at any arc and still call it complete because until some new villain shows there is no actual goal that Ichigo aims for, while the other popular shonens all have something going on even without a villain to stop.

It just feels like bleach was written in a lot more "linear way" than the rest, almost as if it started with an idea that just got added onto without a clear goal for how the story would end while the others I listed feel like there was a goal and "checkpoints" the authors put before starting the story and then filled in the blanks.

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Isn't that the formula of every Shonen?

You think One Punch Man fits into that formula? I think "every Shonen" is a bit of an overreach.

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One Punch Man is a seinen making fun of shonen so it doesn't really have to follow that "formula".

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Ohh I see, didn't know they were made by different people; it also makes sense to have changes to adapt to the medium; guess I'll read the original source then, I thought LN were just text based with more description and the manga (since it has images) were less descriptive but had the same stuffs

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Ohh I see, didn't know they were made by different people

Well the story is still based on the original author's story in most cases, it's just the illustrations done by someone else and sometimes they add their own things or rearrange the story in their own way. The main problem with manga's that adapt LN is still the same as anime the anime, they often don't get to the end of the story or are further behind and sometimes even have slow releases. For example Re:Zero which you mentioned has monthly released and is still behind the anime.

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It depends. Some series originally manga some are LN. If the original source is LN, manga can be a little different from the source or can be way behind LN or never really finish. I personally always go for the original source.

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When it comes to light novels/web novels vs manga, which ever came first is normally the best version of a story. This is especially true for Chinese stories that started as novels, where the mangas are almost universally regarded as butchering the stories they're adapted from. There are a few exceptions where adaptations actually improved on the original, but they're few and far in between.

If you're looking for some suggestions of good light novel stories (where their manga adaptations should be avoided), I rather enjoyed Desolate Era and The Rising of the Shield Hero (the laters link is for the original web novel. There's a light novel too, but like the manga it's a butchery of the original).

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Greetings fellow Daoist. I think DE is overrated, it's typical I Eat Tomatoes novel. If you are familiar with his other works DE isn't that great. Nowadays it's hard to find great story, I am actually tired of these copycat authors. Same old OP weapon, or OP weapon, or OP cultivation manuals, some wise old cultivator's spirits, reincarnation, massacring entire sec alone or living in MMORPG game worlds. I recommend I shall seal the Heavens, Tales of Herding God, and Avalon of Five Elements.

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If the story is based on LN, then usually anime covers only around 60% of the story - only main plot points. And usually not even all of them if those those keypoints aren't important for current season (especially if the studio isn't planning to make another season of the anime - why bother adding useless things). Manga isn't much better - it adds details that you didn't see in the anime, but it's almost always rushed and story suffers from it (for example, iirc, anime and manga of Re:Zero didn't mention the fact that there's another person from Subaru's world, that Subaru met already).
So if you like the concept of some anime that you've seen - better check the original LN, manga would be worse. Same with anime based on manga or VN - better check the original source. There are exceptions of course, but usually it's like this.

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I see, gonna read the original source then. Yeah I do play the original VN if I want to know about the anime (if its VN based)

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The issue with light novels is finding a translation is hard for them because most people don't want to translate something so long. It's even rarer for them to have official translations. A lot of the time the translations are just script based too.

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Ohh I see, not even fan made translations? :/

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Those are almost always script based. I'm not even sure if anybody has ever actually scanlated them.

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I used to read mangas. But now I'm more into Chinese Xianxia novels. Wuxiaworld anyone?

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Never heard of that.. Is like the Chinese version?

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Yeah it is. If you like to read novels you should start today. http://www.wuxiaworld.com

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Usually manga are still adaptations of anime or lightnovels, LN/WN are still where the main stories are at. But if there's no LN/WN for the anime and it comes from the mangas then go ahead, manags are always still better than the animes.

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Assuming we are talking about LN/WN being the original work, and it's later adapted into manga and anime. There are several cases of it being backwards, or multimedia mix (you need to read/watch all the content from different media to get the full story)

If you want to ask about the differences, you should ask with a specific series in mind. Usually, the manga tends to follow the novel closely in plotline and skip the long winded stuffs in the novel, but there are cases where the manga deviates or completely destroys the charm in the original work.

For example, Shinsekai Yori is originally a novel, adapted into manga and anime. Unless you have time to read the novel, you should watch the anime and skip the manga entirely, since the manga is overloaded with moe and totally failed to deliver the Mystery part of the story.

Another novel which I can remember on the top of my head is Another. There are slight differences in the ending of the LN/manga and anime, and some character survive in one version while dies in the other. No changes to the major events and plotlines, though.

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Shinsekai Yori was a LN? Oof, didn't know that. All I know is that it's a good watch, huehue.

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To be precise, it's a novel (no illustration, more difficult vocabulary compare to light novel)

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Wait, it was a straight-up novel? As in, words and stuff, people won't judge you in a library? That's even more insane, I thought this thread was about LNs :S

But thanks for the info. That means any translation of it's probably not good enough to read, either. Dang.

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That means any translation of it's probably not good enough to read, either.

Fan translation is out, so you can judge it yourself. It's originally a Mystery genre novel, so if you only care about the "huehue" part of it, yeah, perhaps you won't like it too much.

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Ohh I see

So its better to read the original source most of the times? For example, I do know Haruhi started as a novel (and I believe was one of the first huge successful ones too).. I've read the manga and the anime (and is probably one of my fav anime/manga); should I also read the novel then? To get the full story?

Black Bullet and Re:Zero? Novels is better then? (I just read the first chapters in the mangas, haven't got really far; I did find the LNs for both)

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Ask yourself how much you like the series.

  • If you like it so much you want to know every details about it from the beginning, go ahead and read the original source (usually novel or manga).
  • If you like it enough to want to know what happens next, but you don't care too much about knowing everything about it, perhaps pick up from where the anime left off
  • If you find yourself swamped in a bunch of new anime to watch or manga to read, and you keep putting off reading the original source, chances are that you don't like it too much, or you simply don't have time to read it.

I did read manga and watch anime for Black Bullet and Re:Zero, but due to lack of time, I never get around to check out the LN for either series, so can't help you with that.

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That's a really good way to think about whether or not read it; thanks! Will keep it in mind

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The obvious problem is, you see, that mangas have much less text to translate from Japanese to English than light novels and as a result there are simply way more mangas available to you to read than light novels (that is if you don't speak Japanese, of course) cause it's easier and faster to translate.

For example: if you really liked some anime based on manga and want to continue the story you are almost guaranteed to find officially published version or unofficial scans online and it would be likely up to date with chapters released in Japan; however, if you enjoyed an anime based on light novel and wish to read the full story... well, good luck finding the translated version official or unofficial. You mentioned manga/LN for Re:Zero, the thing is the manga for it still hasn't covered the story in anime, and it has very slow release, the official translation of the light novel (published by Yen press) has only covered about 2/3 of the story in anime, despite the fact that they licensed it almost 3 years ago (~2015) and the anime got really popular in 2016. If you want to continue the story from where anime left off - you have no choice but to read unofficial translation of a free web novel(!) here: https://translationchicken.com, or https://www.zerotranslations.com

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Ohh damn, that does make sense then; guess I'll need to try and learn Japanese fast if I plan to read some more obscure LN
Gonna check both links thanks!

Also, is nice to see some love for Yotsugi hahaha

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