Meh, I don't know... I'm pretty much fine with my $100 CV. It's not like I NEED to get CV ASAP cuz there's this a Ster Wers 3: PhentomLerd II x5_1 giveaway with high CV taking place. You can filter that shit out and even then, this site (at least for me) is not about CV but about giving. I'm pretty sure that I'd give away more but well, can't find a fucking part-time job in this shithole called Antwerp for a year now... so I give away what I can. Imo it's a nice system that yes, can motivate people to giveaway more, but it doesn't have to. It can also help groups avoid leechers, sorry but the higher the CV, the lower the chance of a guy actually scamming people. Yes there are exceptions, but still, they worked for that e-peen so it's highly unlikely that they will risk it.
Just treat it like something extra and slowly gain more. Tis it.

"EVERYONE WILL LOVE THIS IDEA!"

Just to point out some things:

1. 15000 giveaways entered
2. 55 comments (23 of them in this post)
3. 1 year and dunno else here.
4. 30$ CV Value

And still, you keep repeating over and over that you have lots of keys that you won't share due to the CV stupid system, amirite?
My CV is higher than yours, nothing compare to people like the "hall of fame" guys around, but I do give away bundled games, and I won't stop of doing so. Why? It's simply, this ecosystem is alive just because pleople give away games, if I'm flat broke I'll give away bundled games, but if I save enough money I'll buy something for those who I want to share with.
Maybe my english sound pretty broken, but I just don't need to say it any better.

You should start a petition

Lately i think that there is a kind of limit to get a win for people who have the CV stuck in 30USD.
For example, me.
I only give games from bundles to people, as i can't afford too much more. I don't care the CV, i like to give things that i won't need to others who whould like to have them.
But i'm wondering is this makes my profile to have a limit to get more games/winnings, as long time i'm not winning anything, which i think is a bit strange.

It's like, if you have a CV of 30$, you can't get more wins if the price of your actual winnings are more or less in the same cipher.
For example, i have 30$ CV, the games i won were about 35$ max. So it seems that i can't get more games. : /

I hope i'm wrong with this.... Anyone knows more about this?

Have a nice day :)

I think we only need to add:

After the first copy you only get half CV and the next one 25% and further on

to the current system
to prevent CV abusers getting bugged price games or 90%ones

Your argument that people are "gaming the system" shows you lack understanding.

1) The CV system isn't perfect and everybody knows it. It is in place because there has yet to be a better alternative.
2) Many people buy games at full price and give them away. Would you penalize these people?
3) Buying a game for reduced price is smart. Selling it, later, for full price, is callled "good business." Gifting is also an option.
4) Every expensive game on Steam will eventually become cheap. As the price on Steam drops, so does the corresponding CV.
5) Nobody owes you anything. If you are excluded from one giveaway, find another to enter. If you don't like this setup, you can leave.

Your entire post is nothing more than posturing. The truth is that you're upset because your CV (a virtual number) isn't has high as you want it to be. Either raise it, or accept it as-is. Allowing jealousy to consume you is both dumb and counter-productive.

If that's not clear enough, I can elaborate on everything I just mentioned and cover the stuff I left out.

All of this argument is so pointless. Woz, if you want value for your games... Just go and sell them to someone. This website is about giving things away! You should get nothing in return for it.

If you fail to understand that, then you can stop using this website

Another greedy munch with 30 bucks CV is trying to teach people waht's right. Keep on, you're funny.

Your argument is invalid because of some facts. The most important one is that with 1 dollar you can get games of a 100 to 200 CV, while if you buy a 75% discounted game (which is the last not-so-rare-discount), you get one game for 30 CV THE MOST. Let's see it again:
$1 - 100 to 200 CV (And can even reach more)
$5 to $10 - 30 to 40 CV (Which is pretty generous)...
So no, the system is fair to the finest.

I can agree with the CV system being awfull or not the brightest thing ever. Your opinion is probably worst than the actual system we have, so i will take the lesser devil of them both (that being the CV system, not your opinion).

This website would be so much better like in the old days, no CV system, all about gifting. People saying "this website is all about gifting!" sure is, except that quite a percentage of our "gifters" hoards CV for many reasons, completly forgetting the reason of this website.

The only thing that should be used is the gift feedback, the more you gift with good feedback, the more gifts you can open at any given time. I would be up for another cosmetic system to replace CV entirelly. A system that awards statuses to one's profile, for example (like giving them a title for the number of gifts they have given). Said system could be even used for commenting, so a person would get 2 status titles for comments/gifts. No CV being used to create giveaways = best thing ever. Want to keep leechers away from your giveaway? Create a group and invite people or create a private and invite worthy people to join your giveaways, it's that simple.

The titles would be pure cosmetic achievements, if a person didn't like the show off on their profile, they could hide the title. This is many times better than having a CV system that completly ruins the purpose of this website since it's part of the giveaway options when creating a giveaway.

Yeah, everyone should get a Nobel prize for giving away bundle games. I mean, they only want to increase their CV, no harm there, right?

Look at indiegala. 99% of the games there are bundle games. do you want that to happen here aswell? i don't. you benefit from this system, because you can win good, pricy games here. no one with a CV of 5000$ paid 5000$, thats quite obvious. more like 600-1000$. but thats still a lot of money, which people pump into the site. and everyone benefits from it. i dont see how your suggested change could make anything better. in fact it would make everything way worse.

Personally I think OP is whining because he can't enter the more expensive giveaways that require $100+

Well, since everyone is voicing their HO, here is my take. All of this can be confirmed if you look at my profile:

1. I confess, I have gamed the system! I have given games that were 90% off just for CV! Punish me, now!
2. But, hold on -- I gave away some games in the process! That is the GOOD side of "gaming CV" people often forget!
3. Note: if those games entered the bundle list, my CV would not rise. Too bad for me, I would not complain. It is just CV.
4. I also have given plenty of bundle fodder, even knowing I would get no CV in return. It is fine, and made some people happy.
5. However, if everybody got CV from anything, the side would be flooded with free (or $0.01) games, and that is annoying. This is not a supposition -- it has happened before.

Point 5 is particularly important. It is not just 90% or 95% -- a game enters the "bundle list" when it has potential to annoyingly flood the site. 95% is just a guideline. Maybe "bundle list" isn't quite the correct name for this... "Floodder (flood+fodder) list"? :) :) :)

In conclusion, the CV system is pretty good. The worst part of the system is not the system itself, but the eternal complaining about it. :)

Cheers!

You just need to buck up and quit crying. I've bought many games on steam as gifts to giveaway and before happens they pop up in a bundle. So a game I have paid $5 or more for is now worth no cv for me.

I still give it away though cause that's what i bought it for. SG is about giving away games and having fun doing it. Many high cv contributors have spent a ton of money for the community even if stuff was at a discount and they did it because they like to. Not because they are about their cv.

I give games away just because I want to. I did it before I found this site, and I do even at other places other then this site (and I'm not talking about other giveaway sites)

I view CV as an incentive to give games other then ones in bundles that everyone can quite easily buy if they want to.

As other has pointed out, if the changes were made the way you suggested them, the majority of games being given away would be from bundles. There are quite a few now, but at least there are some non-bundle games.

The CV system is not perfect, but its far better then what the OP has suggested and far better then not having it in the first place.

If you give, expecting something in return, is it giving? Or bartering? Did you come here to give or complain how others give? Some people can only afford to give bundle keys, or give them because they wont use them and don't want them to go to waste. Perhaps the multiple copies are because its a game they like or liked at the time. Learn to give with a pure heart and what others give or receive will not bother you.
Regards,
Sirge

"I think you should get the game value the first time you give away a game and then nothing after that. We all get bundles and want to give away what we already have but it is the morons that game the system that have got us to where we are today. Lets be honest here, gaming the steam sales is NO different than gaming the bundles yet people are sat on CV of $1000 probably for a payment of $50 with careful sale selection. Utter stupidity.

Just a thought"

Thank god no one cares what you think cause obviously you didn't try too hard.

Want to get something back for your bundle games? Join some group that allows bundle giveaways, you will probably be able to win mostly bundle games as well, but if you are not an ass you will find out that giving games to the people you spend time with in chat is actually fun and does not require any profit.

Talking about people with high CV. If you are so keen on checking their profiles, be sure to notice that they have usually given couple of times more games that they have won.

I don't care about my CV. I've given away bundle games (mostly) and a few 4 pack games.

A few were posted to closed groups/friends because I couldn't decide who to give them to, and people either had them, or didn't want them. I waited till I saw if people were entering before considering linking to main.

I've done mostly public giveaways though, I'm sitting on a few more bundle keys (believe I'm at maybe 50$ cv now?) and I am probably just going to keydrop them at some point. The thing is... I have a LOT of fun giving the games away, and I'm horrible at deciding who to give things to - this site gives me a really good rng to do the giveaways with that no one can say is partial beyond me linking it within a certain group, or to a certain site if it's a private giveaway.

If you're obsessed with the fact someone else is getting credit where you're not... maybe this isn't the right place for you. Look at the keydrops people have done just to the forums of MASSES of keys in one or two threads - keys they're getting NOTHING from at all.