About Physical Copy

I personally don't have a problem with it, though I didn't vote for that. What pisses me off are day one patches that are bigger than the game download itself.

not bought a physical copy since mw2 so i don't know much about how it works, but it would make sense that most of the data was on the disc.
and i don't really see how making you have to download most of the content is gonna prevent pirates.
then again i don't have a cd-tray on my pc anyways so i can't buy physical copies <.<

Neither I have problem with it, it's been a decade since I've bought any physical copy, and aswell have high internet speed, but I agree that "Physical copy should have most of the data, either for our back up or help users with slow internet connection."

It's not a physical copy if you need to download data to even start the game.

For Dragon Age: Inquisition, I bought the physical copy, both because it was slightly cheaper than a digital copy (and I got a free poster with it), and my internet speed isn't very fast. It was very useful for me, because I did not want to wait even longer to play DA:I.
I don't have Fallout 4, because my poor laptop cannot run it, but I do not like that it only has a small part of the data. Ughhh.

Imo, physical copy should have all the data in terms that it is supposed to have the game files as a local backup.
And you say only 20% of the total amount? That's way to little.

PS. I wish I could add my physical copied games into my Steam library. Only 10% of them have been accepted and another 10% were duplicated due to older Steam account, which I don't remember :[

Waste of ressources to burn them to physical media. But Bethesda in general is pure evil.

Well, it's still better than MGS5, where the disc only contained the steam installer.

There is no point of having a physical copy if it doesnt work. Last physical copy i bought was Starcraft:: wings of liberty a few years ago.I stopped doing that since its worthless. Aside from the nice looking case, i cant play the game offline, in case i just want to play solo. I mean, blizzard updated the game after and then you can play it offline, but i think you have to download that patch, so.

I don't see what's the point of physical copy if you'll still need to download most of the game. That just doesn't make any sense.

And I am so sick about the "it's to prevent piracy" excuses from developers and publishers. They can't prevent piracy, they just make things inconvenient for their customers, people who actually buy the game. Which is actually counterproductive because it makes a lot of people disappointed and more willing to pirate the game instead of buying it.

if fo4 update new patch , the physical disk data maybe no useful

Physical copies should have died out years ago. Even the peasants could just get a larger hard drive and go cloud only. Too bad that apparently even most parts of the rich West have terrible internet connection. (And for a long time I thought my 23-Euro 115/10 plan was slow.)

As for your actual problem: if they sell you a game disk, it should be the game's disk, not a downloader application. Considering how cheap Bethesda is, I'm not surprised that they used the cheapest single-layer dvd they could order in bulk, but I'm not sure that you couldn't even sue them in Murica or in the EU for misleading advertisement and labelling.
This is slightly less bad than Capcom's favourite practise on consoles, disk-locked content, where you already bought the game, bust you cannot access parts of your legally purchased media unless you pay additional fees to unlock it. (Don't worry, Bethesda will never do that, they rush out games long before any DLC is made.)

DRM-Free games are the best.

If this what they call a physical copy, why not just sell boxes with steam key stickers inside of it instead of discs?

I am +20 year gamer and feel bad about the extinction of physical copies. I still keep some of the floppies i bought..
Digital copies are more profitable for the distrubutors and thats the only reason they want to stop selling physical copies. Excuse of preventing piracy is just bullshit..

That is the Early Access "BETA State" excuse - MGSV PP had like a 50 MB Installer on the Retail Disk ... kinda
funny assuming everyone & everywhere has access to limitless and moderately fast Internet.

A.: The full darn game in whatever petty state should be on the Disk, but their afraid since until
that crap has been shipped out to you the Early Access Beta has already evolved and requiring Updates lol.

The discs should have all the data on it, but in the end it doesn't really matter, you'll have to download patches for it and sometimes they are quite large. I bought a physical copy of The witcher 3, installed it using dvds but I had to download a 15 gb patch anyway and the game is a lil over 30 gb, so it's pretty much half of the game.

it should have working game on disc, not only part

I don't like the fact that they make you use Steam, it gives Steam a monopoly more and more.

Physical copy is what it implies - pull the disk out of the box, install the game, and play. That's how physical copies were made when I last checked. My last physical copy was Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition. Installed and played without downloading even 1 Mb of data.

This situation is double bullshit because of Bethesda's "against piracy" justification. It not even "borderline" stupid. As someone with few years of experience in downloading games using torrents... Stuff is there before release, regardless if the game is distributed physically or digitally.

It's just... Ugh...

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Only 20%? Woah, that sucks! Having a really bad internet connection myself, I know exactly what you're talking about.

I also buy physical copies here in South Africa as my internet is super shit. An example. I bought Shadow of Mordor GOTY yesterday. My friend had the disks from when the game came out (there were 5 disks, took forever to install :p). So I used those, and only ended up having to download 7 gigs (most of which is the season pass content, which took 10 hours) instead of 50 gigs.

Bethesda are being stupid not putting the data on the disk. Metal Gear Solid V did the same, they only put a steam installer on the disk. They could put all the data on, but leave the .exe application file out, and pirates wouldn't be able to unlock the game early. Instead the pirates just use a VPN, and cracked the Steam files. Another example, I bought The Witcher 3 earlier in the year. That had all the content on the disk except the .exe, and it was DRM Free and used GOG. Bethesda have no excuse.

Too long, didn't read: Bethesda are idiots and don't know how modern piracy works. Good job fucking over the people who bought your game at retail. Why even bother with a retail copy if you're only going to put 5 gigs on the disk?

And also a physical copy for collection !

I liked game boxes when they came on well... boxes, cardboard boxes, with some design tough put into them, a proper manual or maybe extra writing about the game itself, and then the games off course.

This time boxes are just a hunk of plastic with a DVD in then, hardly call it worth while over a Digital copy, and the "especial" editions that come with all the stuff you would want to collect cost quite a lot more...

Frankly my dear i don't give a damn, i buy all my games digitally :P